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Unread 05-17-2012, 07:08 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Well, ABC used those same numbers.
Page 2: Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version - ABC News

I've no problem with people explaining what "intermediate distance" means. Not sure what your beef is.
I stated that I was surprised at that being considered intermediate distance. I am not a forensic expert, and I don't foresee becoming one. OK? No need to defend your version of biased media. We all get biased news at one time or another.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 07:11 PM   #122 (permalink)
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I stated that I was surprised at that being considered intermediate distance. I am not a forensic expert, and I don't foresee becoming one. OK? No need to defend your version of biased media. We all get biased news at one time or another.
At least we know which ones showed restraint.
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We do???
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We do???
Well, maybe some of us do.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 07:28 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Well, maybe some of us do.
You KNOW? For certain? Sorry, I would not be so sure. They are all corporations with PR departments.

Anyhow, time to move along for me. Waiting for evidence...
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Unread 05-17-2012, 08:18 PM   #127 (permalink)
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And after she said we don't need you to do that he said ok.... *shrug*
the fact still remains that Zimmerman pursued Trayvon. not other way around.

It makes no sense to get out of car to pursue him when he told police officer that he was scared and that Trayvon was circling around his car.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 08:27 PM   #128 (permalink)
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the fact still remains that Zimmerman pursued Trayvon. not other way around.
Nope, we don't know that for sure.....It's quite possible that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman as he was walking to his car. You are guessing and calling it fact. I choose to wait for the facts.

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Makes no sense to you....does make sense to others. Oh well....
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Nope, we don't know that for sure.....It's quite possible that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman as he was walking to his car. You are guessing and calling it fact. I choose to wait for the facts.
like I said... it's in 911 tape. Zimmerman was pursuing him, not other way around. he had never stated that Trayvon was pursuing him. that is a fact.

whether or not if Trayvon was following him.... I'll leave that to court and lawyer to quibble around on it.

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Makes no sense to you....does make sense to others. Oh well....
oh it makes sense to you too?
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Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system
Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system - CNN.com

Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood
Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood - CBS News

George Zimmerman was 'bleeding from the nose and head'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18111988

Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system the night he was shot, autopsy finds
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Nope, we don't know that for sure.....It's quite possible that Trayvon pursued Zimmerman as he was walking to his car. You are guessing and calling it fact. I choose to wait for the facts.

Makes no sense to you....does make sense to others. Oh well....
Makes sense to wait for the facts instead of making them up and calling them as "facts."
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Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system
Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system - CNN.com

Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood
Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood - CBS News
Marijuana would be present up to 4 weeks after use. It is not exactly a violence-inducing substance, either.
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Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system
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Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood
Autopsy: Evidence of marijuana in Martin's blood - CBS News
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Unread 05-17-2012, 08:57 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Marijuana would be present up to 4 weeks after use. It is not exactly a violence-inducing substance, either.
yea. I don't know which one is worse... this one or Zimmerman on Adderral and Temazepam.
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Unread 05-17-2012, 09:19 PM   #136 (permalink)
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yea. I don't know which one is worse... this one or Zimmerman on Adderral and Temazepam.
Also, the THC; if it was from smoking marijuana, (which is the usual definition) it would make him Mr Mellow. If it was PCP, often called THC, he would be a raving lunatic. Those drugs you listed; the second one sounds like a Valium type thing. That should make him Mr Droopy Eyes. Hmmm...
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like I said... it's in 911 tape. Zimmerman was pursuing him, not other way around. he had never stated that Trayvon was pursuing him. that is a fact.
Pursuing of following???

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whether or not if Trayvon was following him.... I'll leave that to court and lawyer to quibble around on it.
Notice you used following here...good idea to leave it up to the court though.

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So, it is appearing more and more like Zimmerman was actually telling the truth about what transpired between him and Trayvon. Also, it has been proven that several media outlets intentionally lied to stir up racist bigotry against Zimmerman and white people. The 911 call was intentionally edited to do this.

Autopsy records show Trayvon had THC in his system, as well as bruised knuckles.

Medical records show that Zimmerman had lacerations on the back of his head, a broken nose and an injured back.

The facts show that the media portrayal of Zimmerman as "uninjured" were simply lies.

Yet .... people still want Zimmerman locked up ... because ....because ... well, just because.

Need I point out that the media wanted everyone to think Zimmerman was a white supremacist when the news first broke?
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Yet .... people still want Zimmerman locked up ... because ....because ... well, just because.
because Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his car and he should have let the cops deal with it.

you are the only one here trying to make this a racist issue.
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because Zimmerman should not have gotten out of his car and he should have let the cops deal with it.

you are the only one here trying to make this a racist issue.
ORLY?

You need to read very carefully what I said. I said the media turned this into a racist issue - and they did. Are you trying to dispute that?



I don't know what Zimmerman did and he might be an earnest citizen protecting his neighborhood who had to protect himself from a thug.

Alternately he might be a racist with a superhero complex who gunned down an innocent teen.

BUT I also know you don't know either. You're manufacturing a scenario in your mind that affirms your political and social biases and then embracing it as fact.
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ORLY?

You need to read very carefully what I said. I said the media turned this into a racist issue - and they did. Are you trying to dispute that?



I don't know what Zimmerman did and he might be an earnest citizen protecting his neighborhood who had to protect himself from a thug.

Alternately he might be a racist with a superhero complex who gunned down an innocent teen.

BUT I also know you don't know either. You're manufacturing a scenario in your mind that affirms your political and social biases and then embracing it as fact.
for proving my point that you're still making this a racist issue. for the past several weeks, I haven't heard much about Zimmerman being racist in the news. you are only the one who are still frothing all over on this so I don't know where you're getting this kind of news. stormfront forum?

I've already repeatedly stated that I do not believe Zimmerman is racist and I don't believe he will get charged with hate crime. My stance is that Zimmerman had made a series of erroneous judgments that led to Trayvon's death. completely avoidable.
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So, it is appearing more and more like Zimmerman was actually telling the truth about what transpired between him and Trayvon. Also, it has been proven that several media outlets intentionally lied to stir up racist bigotry against Zimmerman and white people. The 911 call was intentionally edited to do this.

Autopsy records show Trayvon had THC in his system, as well as bruised knuckles.

Medical records show that Zimmerman had lacerations on the back of his head, a broken nose and an injured back.

The facts show that the media portrayal of Zimmerman as "uninjured" were simply lies.

Yet .... people still want Zimmerman locked up ... because ....because ... well, just because.

Need I point out that the media wanted everyone to think Zimmerman was a white supremacist when the news first broke?
Hello Steinhauer, please can you answer my question.
ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Tra
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nobody wants to answer my question either. same question I've asked in all Zimmerman threads and not a single soul answered it.

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would both of you confront a suspicious person like what he described to 911 dispatcher? there you go.
Since we don't know what happened before and during the "confrontation," how can we say whether or not we would do the same? We have to first know exactly what happened before we can either agree or disagree with it.

Last week, there was a wild driver circling my street (which is a one-mile circle with one entrance/exit) several times at a high rate of speed during the evening. (Our speed limit is 25 mph.) As he came around the curve towards my house, I was surprised that he didn't either flip over or jump the curb and go thru a house. That's how bad it was. So, I told TCS to call the police while I got in my Jeep and tried to find out where he lived. I couldn't find him. He probably drove into a garage. A couple of our other neighbors told me they had witnessed it, too. When the police arrived, we described what happened. He drove around the circle once, then left.

I didn't have a gun with me, and I had no intention of getting out of my Jeep to pursue anyone. I just wanted to get either an address or a license plate number.

If I had spotted someone suspicious like Zimmerman says he did, I possibly would have followed at a distance in my car and called it in. I would not get out of my car to follow someone alone, and in the dark.
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yes yes yes. you've (or somebody else) said that in locked thread. and I've explained in return. it does not matter if whether or not he was on patrol. he was not allowed to confront a person. call police and let them handle it. PERIOD. like I said.... same ole' song. this is nothing but a repeat of locked thread.

let's try something new....
That's fine with me. You're the one who brought up the neighborhood watch thing again, so you should expect the same responses again.
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That's fine with me. You're the one who brought up the neighborhood watch thing again, so you should expect the same responses again.
no I didn't. TXGolfer did. and I know you know very well that all Neighborhood Watch programs and police departments strongly advise against acting on it when you see a suspicious person/activity.

To think that a member of neighborhood watch has every right to approach someone he feels is suspicious is absolutely absurd and foolish.
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Since we don't know what happened before and during the "confrontation," how can we say whether or not we would do the same? We have to first know exactly what happened before we can either agree or disagree with it.

Last week, there was a wild driver circling my street (which is a one-mile circle with one entrance/exit) several times at a high rate of speed during the evening. (Our speed limit is 25 mph.) As he came around the curve towards my house, I was surprised that he didn't either flip over or jump the curb and go thru a house. That's how bad it was. So, I told TCS to call the police while I got in my Jeep and tried to find out where he lived. I couldn't find him. He probably drove into a garage. A couple of our other neighbors told me they had witnessed it, too. When the police arrived, we described what happened. He drove around the circle once, then left.

I didn't have a gun with me, and I had no intention of getting out of my Jeep to pursue anyone. I just wanted to get either an address or a license plate number.

If I had spotted someone suspicious like Zimmerman says he did, I possibly would have followed at a distance in my car and called it in. I would not get out of my car to follow someone alone, and in the dark.
Right on, Reba....awhile back, I spotted (late evening) someone walking back and forth several times.....by the river bank in my backyard.....our Dog was barking and barking. We called Security...cut our porch light on...went outside and looked to see what clothes he was wearing, etc....He took off to the dock and when he saw Security coming, he ran the other way....We felt he was casing the neighborhood, up to no good. And evidently he was, or he would not have ran off.
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Right on, Reba....awhile back, I spotted (late evening) someone walking back and forth several times.....by the river bank in my backyard.....our Dog was barking and barking. We called Security...cut our porch light on...went outside and looked to see what clothes he was wearing, etc....He took off to the dock and when he saw Security coming, he ran the other way....We felt he was casing the neighborhood, up to no good. And evidently he was, or he would not have ran off.
You...you...confronted the unknown stranger?
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