‘Justice for Trayvon’: Alabama Man in Critical Condition After Mob Beating - Page 5

kokonut · 04-26-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I said, "down thru the ages." Think outside the USA, outside American history. There is more to history than just black and white Americans.

Not all black people are involved in violence and riots, and not all white people are the perpetrators of injustice.

Quite true.

rolling7 · 04-26-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I must admit, Sharpton's support of Tawana Brawley's accusations were an injustice--to the police officers who were falsely accused.

Or maybe it was Sharpton's support of the rape allegations against the Duke lacrosse team members? Yes, that was an injustice against the young college men.

It doesn't help the credibility of any case to have Sharpton involved in it.

He has been and always will be the match that lights the TNT.

kokonut · 04-26-2012, 10:45 AM

And what's equally sad and disappointing about Sharpton is that he is a commentator on MSNBC and got his own show for an hour to spew his mis/disinformed junk to the audience.

rockin'robin · 04-26-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterboy

Oh? What do Black parents teach their children? Tell us all about that.

You have a problem with peaceful protest of injustice?

When it comes down to shooting up police cars, beating up other white people, destroying property, setting fires....yes I do!...And that's not a "peaceful protest"....

And your prior quote "Zimmy's going to jail!"....you, as a lot of other blacks, already labeled Z guilty....

I'm sure a lot of black parents do not teach their children to be Racist....and hopefully, YOU, as a "single Mom to a deaf black adult"...taught your son not to be Racist.

**TXgolfer** · 04-26-2012, 10:50 AM

Well, I don't think there is any doubt now

CrazyPaul · 04-26-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

This is an example of doing the right thing:

"BOBBY GREEN
Green was one of the riot's greatest heroes. The black truck driver was watching the violence unfold on television at his Los Angeles home when he saw Denny being attacked and quickly headed to the scene. He helped push Denny back into his truck's cab and then drove him to the hospital, saving his life. Later, despite threats and insults from the community, he went on to testify against Denny's attackers. He and his family have since moved to a suburb east of Los Angeles and he did not respond to messages for comment. On the 10th anniversary of the riot, he told the Los Angeles Times: "I can tell my kids that color is on the outside, not the inside. To me, I turned justice around and showed them that all black people ain't the same as you think."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/25/major-players-in-12-los-angeles-riot/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fnational+%28Internal+-+US+Latest+-+Text%29#ixzz1tA2QjeSV"

I agree that not all black people are the same. Some white people or other races are sick, too. All I can say is that Bobby is very human. If I see an innocent black person getting beaten by white people, I would take him/her out of the way.

rolling7 · 04-26-2012, 11:14 AM

Get this. I, a white guy, was driving a black co-worker home and we were about to pulling an icehouse (hey, Houston is Hell hot in the summer!). In the parking lot we saw what was certainly a fender bender between a older black gentleman and a younger white guy. On private property it became a issue between the drivers. However, the older gentleman had to sit on a curb to write out all his information and the white guy and his passenger, another young white guy, were running their mouth 100mph and cussing all the way. Suddenly the white driver hauled off and kicked the older gentleman right under the chin. No need to tell me nor my co-worker what to do, we jumped in and tore that young guy to pieces and had the passenger back off (I'll admit other bystander, white and black, assisted). Then it became a police matter. With all the witnesses, the young guy had no chance and was hauled off to jail for assault. My point is, people, not race, are what they are. People are individualls and will act totally different in situations, regardless of their race, age, gender, where every part of the issue remains the same.

CSign · 04-26-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

When it comes down to shooting up police cars, beating up other white people, destroying property, setting fires....yes I do!...And that's not a "peaceful protest"....

And your prior quote "Zimmy's going to jail!"....you, as a lot of other blacks, already labeled Z guilty....

I'm sure a lot of black parents do not teach their children to be Racist....and hopefully, YOU, as a "single Mom to a deaf black adult"...taught your son not to be Racist.

What's so funny to me, is the concerted effort to, "not be obvious" when it's as clear as day. I'd say about 99.9% of "new posters" would protest and be bothered by what they are reading. While this, "new poster" hasn't asked for clarification or denied anything.

CSign · 04-26-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Get this. I, a white guy, was driving a black co-worker home and we were about to pulling an icehouse (hey, Houston is Hell hot in the summer!). In the parking lot we saw what was certainly a fender bender between a older black gentleman and a younger white guy. On private property it became a issue between the drivers. However, the older gentleman had to sit on a curb to write out all his information and the white guy and his passenger, another young white guy, were running their mouth 100mph and cussing all the way. Suddenly the white driver hauled off and kicked the older gentleman right under the chin. No need to tell me nor my co-worker what to do, we jumped in and tore that young guy to pieces and had the passenger back off (I'll admit other bystander, white and black, assisted). Then it became a police matter. With all the witnesses, the young guy had no chance and was hauled off to jail for assault. My point is, people, not race, are what they are. People are individualls and will act totally different in situations, regardless of their race, age, gender, where every part of the issue remains the same.

rockin'robin · 04-26-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CSign

What's so funny to me, is the concerted effort to, "not be obvious" when it's as clear as day. I'd say about 99.9% of "new posters" would protest and be bothered by what they are reading. While this, "new poster" hasn't asked for clarification or denied anything.

Hit it right on the nail!...time and time again....

Steinhauer · 04-26-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterboy

Have you watched the tapes? No resisting going on. Just a severe beating.

Please stop lying. Rodney King lunged at Officer Powell.

kokonut · 04-26-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterboy

Yep. People can be horrible. But to think this has anything to do with the Martin case is just plain silly.

Ill informed are you?

**Jiro** · 04-26-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Please stop lying. Rodney King lunged at Officer Powell.

and Powell was sentenced to prison for 30 months

**Jiro** · 04-26-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Driving the wrong way on the highway, putting hundreds of lives in danger, fleeing the police then resisting all while high on crack wasn't exactly peaceful either.

Maybe that is what you consider "cool".

so you've got no problem with officers "punishing" him however they see fit?

rolling7 · 04-26-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Ill informed are you?

Don't go near the water!!

Steinhauer · 04-26-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

and Powell was sentenced to prison for 30 months

After public unrest when he was initially found not guilty. Sound familiar?

**Jiro** · 04-26-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

After public unrest when he was initially found not guilty. Sound familiar?

Scott Maxwell: In Trayvon Martin case, competing narratives about Martin, Zimmerman blur search for truth - Orlando Sentinel

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I understand why Trayvon's family was screaming for justice — and why the Sharptons of the world were calling for independent eyes.

The state attorney in Seminole County has a checkered past. He has a proven track record of being wrong and refusing to admit his mistakes — refusing to even investigate them until science later proved him wrong.

Independent eyes were needed. And Gov. Rick Scott was right to call for them.

sounds familiar, no?

rolling7 · 04-26-2012, 12:27 PM

Two wrongs does not make a right

kokonut · 04-26-2012, 02:06 PM

Arrest made in beating of Alabama man | Fox News

C.C.Sinned · 04-26-2012, 02:10 PM

good!

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

When it comes down to shooting up police cars, beating up other white people, destroying property, setting fires....yes I do!...And that's not a "peaceful protest"....

And your prior quote "Zimmy's going to jail!"....you, as a lot of other blacks, already labeled Z guilty....

I'm sure a lot of black parents do not teach their children to be Racist....and hopefully, YOU, as a "single Mom to a deaf black adult"...taught your son not to be Racist.

You are a very confused person.

What fires, destroyed property, and beating up other white people are you talking about? The one case you could dig up that doesn't even connect to the Martin case?

The Martin case is about justice. Justice that didn't happen when Zimmerman was turned loose the night he killed someone. Had he been arrested, all the marches, and all the activity to bring this to the country's attention, would not have been necessary. But because the state of Florida is known for unequal justice, it was necessary to bring it out.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Ill informed are you?

Not as ill informed as you, judging from your posts.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Down thru the ages many groups have been treated unjustly but they didn't always react with violence, especially violence against those who didn't even commit the injustice. So, we can't say that injustice, by itself, causes riots. Nor, can we say that injustice itself justifies a violent reaction.

We are talking about this country. And yes, violence happens in other countries due to injustice. Read anything about Afrikan nations lately?

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

What about the injustices of blacks upon blacks?
After all it was black Africians who sold their black brother and sisters into slavery to the ship captains. This has been going on for centuries in Africa.

What about it? I don't think there were any Blacks lynching Blacks or burning them out of their home as recent as the 1960's and 1970's. We are talking about America. Injustice based on race still goes on here. Every single day. And it is easy to see why, based on what people are saying here.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

After public unrest when he was initially found not guilty. Sound familiar?

Righting another wrong.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Don't go near the water!!

You guys must be drinking something a lot stronger than water.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CSign

What's so funny to me, is the concerted effort to, "not be obvious" when it's as clear as day. I'd say about 99.9% of "new posters" would protest and be bothered by what they are reading. While this, "new poster" hasn't asked for clarification or denied anything.

Why bother. Just more silliness. Looks like it happens a lot here.

Waterboy · 04-26-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Arrest made in beating of Alabama man | Fox News

A whole lot quicker than an arrest was made in the Martin case.

**Foxrac** · 04-26-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Scott Maxwell: In Trayvon Martin case, competing narratives about Martin, Zimmerman blur search for truth - Orlando Sentinel

sounds familiar, no?

I can't stand these bullshit.

**Reba** · 04-26-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterboy

We are talking about this country. And yes, violence happens in other countries due to injustice. Read anything about Afrikan nations lately?

OK, if you want to stick to just America, my statement still stands.

Not all people resort to violence as a way to address the injustices they experience.

"Not all black people are involved in violence and riots, and not all white people are the perpetrators of injustice."

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Get this. I, a white guy, was driving a black co-worker home and we were about to pulling an icehouse (hey, Houston is Hell hot in the summer!). In the parking lot we saw what was certainly a fender bender between a older black gentleman and a younger white guy. On private property it became a issue between the drivers. However, the older gentleman had to sit on a curb to write out all his information and the white guy and his passenger, another young white guy, were running their mouth 100mph and cussing all the way. Suddenly the white driver hauled off and kicked the older gentleman right under the chin. No need to tell me nor my co-worker what to do, we jumped in and tore that young guy to pieces and had the passenger back off (I'll admit other bystander, white and black, assisted). Then it became a police matter. With all the witnesses, the young guy had no chance and was hauled off to jail for assault. My point is, people, not race, are what they are. People are individualls and will act totally different in situations, regardless of their race, age, gender, where every part of the issue remains the same. Reba, TXgolfer, Steinhauer and 1 others like this.

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kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Arrest made in beating of Alabama man \| Fox News __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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