Reba

I have served on juries. Anyone with their mind made up before the trial starts is not allowed to serve. Jury members promise to make their decisions based on the evidence that is presented during the trial. Personal "reasons" are not allowed.

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CrazyPaul

Well, he didn't know that something bad was going to happen like I told you before. Anyway if he will take a witness stand, we can listen to his story to see if he makes it up or not. It's up to the jury to decide but we can decide for ourselves, right? Hopefully it will be captioned on TV. When it starts, will you make a new thread about this case because this thread is about the investigation which is over?

Reba

Huh? None of the evidence has been presented yet. None of the testimony has been given yet.

Reba

Yes, jurors have personal biases. They are charged by the judge to set them aside in their deliberations. Sometimes they honestly do, sometimes they don't. The lawyers try to weed out the obviously biased ones during jury selection.

CrazyPaul

He's very funny. Don't you think that he should become a lawyer?

CrazyPaul

After OJ's verdict, the prosecuter, Marcia Clark was to blame for the poor jury selection, I heard.

Jiro

Anybody with common sense and carrying a concealed gun knows very well that a situation can get POTENTIALLY bad if you confront a person whom you believe is very suspicious. Why in the god's name would you ever put yourself in a possibly dangerous situation especially if you're not a cop?

You're avoiding my question. I asked you - "What I said is that an armed citizen should never ever put himself in a potentially dangerous situation where somebody could get hurt or killed. Do you agree or not?"

This is the same question that I've been asking for weeks and nobody has answered this question. You and I both know why.

lol! have you ever seen a defendant taking a stand especially in murder trial? (the exception is a psychopathic person who prides in his work)

does it matter? no need to create many threads about same thing but you are free to make one.

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Reba

You're presuming that Zimmerman felt that it was a dangerous situation. Perhaps he didn't.

See my answer above.

Jiro

that doesn't really make any sense if Zimmerman didn't think it would be a dangerous situation otherwise why would he be calling 911? but no I don't need to presume what Zimmerman thought. I'm questioning Zimmerman's poor judgment and lack of common sense.

and you know very well that any armed citizen would never put himself in a POTENTIALLY dangerous situation.

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Reba

He called 911 so that they could dispatch police to the area to check out a suspicious activity.

Did he say in his 911 call anything about being in fear for his life, or that it was a dangerous situation?

Like I said, he may have felt safe when he first started checking out the situation.

Neither of us know how he felt at that time. We have to wait for the trial to find out all the evidence and testimony.

Jiro

the point is - when you call 911... it's obviously a potentially dangerous situation.

he should not be checking out the situation. that's a cop's job.

the evidence and testimony will not reveal what he felt at that time. the only person who knows is Zimmerman himself and he's certainly not going to put himself on stand.

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Foxrac

I'm glad that you aren't serve as jury for Zimmerman's case.

Some of members don't understand about what I was saying, I just believe about George Zimmerman, based on current evidence. You don't know about my strategy with jury duty, same goes with Reba.

You think so?

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Foxrac

I think you should tell other members too - txgolfer and steinhauer.

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Foxrac

In bold, yup, that what I was means and already explained to txgolfer in PM.

Now, there is little or no evidence about Trayvon Martin is aggressor, except for attack after confront.

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Foxrac

The evidence is already revealed in article that what I was reading and Sara posted a lot of articles. Speaking about testimony, I don't know until court start.

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Foxrac

In bold, I already know about that and jurors are make a decision that based on evidence.

Some jurors hide their bias so difficult to revealed during jury selection and no jurors are perfect.

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Jiro

yes but you were getting upset and started swearing around. both of you will just have to agree to disagree. you don't need to answer their questions because it will just lead to nowhere.

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Foxrac

Yup, I was so upset last night and went to bed after done with this argument.

You are correct about we need agree to disagree and answer the questions will result in endless debate.

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TXgolfer

Yet "reasonable doubt" is the standard for criminal cases.

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Foxrac

I'm not interested to become a lawyer.

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Attorney: Zimmerman "stressed" about charges in Trayvon Martin case
Attorney: Zimmerman "stressed" about charges in Trayvon Martin case - CNN.com

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Steinhauer

Very wise decision.

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Foxrac

Why are you against on me? You don't understand about what I was saying about this case.

If I'm interested to become a lawyer so I will for that.

I'm glad that you aren't serve as jury in this case and your view is too extreme.

You have NO respect at all.

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TXgolfer

I have to ask....How is "We will wait for all of the facts" an extreme view.

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Foxrac

For some people, especially txgolfer, Steinhauer and some other members don't understand my post

My view on George Zimmerman is BASED on current evidence that we have right now so he is going charge as second degree murder, or at very least, manslaughter. I support justice for Trayvon Martin and it doesn't matters if it is second degree murder or manslaughter because I believe that George Zimmerman should pay for killing the unarmed teenager. I don't see George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin to death as in self defense because he wanted to follow and confront at first place. I already know that I will lose my self-defense if I want to confront wherever isn't in my property or my car. I'm not ****ING robot that automatically follow Jiro's post and he is just explain so REALLY CLEAR about between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman. I don't see any current evidences that prove about Trayvon Martin is aggressor, except for attack on George Zimmerman. Honest with you, both of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman made a HUGE mistake and it is already messed up. My decision with this justice for Martin Trayvon is tentative until it is final at court and I still support justice for VICTIMS in OJ Simspon's case and Casey Anthony's case, despite about both of cases are not guilty.

This case above doesn't INFLUENCE on my jury strategy and if I were juror so I will make decision that based on evidence, not from personal or emotion, PERIOD. Both of Steinhauer and Reba, you shouldn't say at first place because I don't live in Florida and it is very rude to say like that. I decided to talk back to tell both of you to not serve as jury.

Time for you to cease out any bashing.

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Reba

Which, they don't know about until someone observes something and gives them a call. He did that.

Are you saying that if you see something going on at a neighbor's house you wouldn't check it out? Don't you and your neighbors look out for each other?


I guess you haven't observed many trials.

Foxrac

I'm NOT talking about you but just for Steinhauer, he sees George Zimmerman as innocent and self defense - see old thread that we debated for many hours.

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Reba

That's the problem. What you have seen is not evidence. It's not evidence until it's presented in court.

News reports in the media or on the web are not evidence.

Reba

I'll agree with that.

Foxrac

Whatever, wait and see in court!

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