rhr

Hi Guys,

Do you know PSU (Power Supply Unit) and Video Card

I read GeForce 210 said "Power Supply Requirements 300 Watt Power Supply (with 18A on the +12V Rail)"

What mean "with 18A on the +12V Rail" ???

my PSU 350 watt had dual 12v1/10a and 12v2/15a, what mean toal 25a correct? I can use geforce 210 with PSU, I use calc usb, hd, dvd device, etc.. 305 watt or less no problem, Is it safe?

but I know single 12v, no problem but I don't understand about "12v rails"

any idea?

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rhr

Why you ask me I go google, it is hard for me, I not understand other... I can understand deaf people commcation our than other .. please not talk me go google, okay? thank you

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The Highlander

The rail is avoid from the short circuit and avoid increase amp or wires will overheat and melt wires down.


The most powerful GPU like HD video or gamer always have two PCI-E power.




Depend what kind of type CPU, RAM, number of HDDS/SSDs, motherboard, etc that PSU needs.

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The Highlander

Newegg.com - Recommended Power Supply Calculator.

I suggest you use that link for power supply calculator.

Mine PSU is 530 watts which good enough for G41M-Combo with Q9400 (Quad cores @ 2.66Ghz), DDR3 2gig x 2, two hdds, dvd burner, and GTX 460.

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Foxrac

Some powerful GPU have 8 pins + 6 pins like mine.

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The Highlander

Yes, my PSU have PCE-I 6 pins and 6+2 pins ready.

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rhr

I tired send to Zotac on e-mail three time nothing... I saw website "live chat", I talk him about GeForce 210 18a support to double 10a + 15a, I mean total 25a, support said YES!.. I understand I mean if 4 rial x 10a = 40a, if 10a 10a 15a mean 35a, etc.. I understand, but new PSU on 2012 no more rails, I saw any 20amp or more.. .I saw PSU 1600 watter had 12v / 117a !

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The Highlander

New PSU still rails. Where did you see that they dont use rail anymore?

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Evo Dragon

350 watt PSU? my god! It's not for high end gamer but, for MCE or Netflix is okay for 350 watt PSU.

mine is 750 watt PSU with single GPU for high end gamer. I will upgrade new motherboard with 2 GPU. upgrade 1,000 watt PSU

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GuySmoke420

Are you ECO hater ? j/k

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Foxrac

Same as mine too and my GPU is GeForce GTX 580, enough to max all games out, even AA too with decent FPS. It is pointless for me to get second GPU for now, except for future games that increase GPU hunger.

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rhr

Multimultiple Rails
Power supply unit (computer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


1600 watt - 117a
Ultra X3 ULT40070 1600-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, PCI-E Ready, Energy Efficient, Modular, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration at TigerDirect.com

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rhr

I not use games, only internet and business, becuase size is wrong... not work.. I bought GeForce 210 (very slow and cheap $30)

Geforce 5000-5100, 6000-6100, ... 200, 210, like x10

x10 = no fan - low watt up to 100 watt
x20 = maybe fan, up to 200 watt
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if GeForce 580 = 220 watt requirement
more 550 watt psu about $500+
if GeForce 590 (dual) 270 watt requirement more 600 watt psu about $700+

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The Highlander

Wiki? It's said It's dont mean no more rail. It's mean no MORE than 20 amps. That's mean max to 20 amps to avoid from melt wires/overheat.

The ultra? Good luck with it. I know a lot friends complained about Ultra PSU got failed and few of them blow up their HDD/DVD-burner.

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I trust list of the brands.

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - Antec High Current Pro HCP-1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE ST1200 1200W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - Thermaltake TR2 TRX-1200M 1200W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

They still have rails.

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rhr

you show me URL they had 100.4a, other 28a but you said 20a, you read wiki new 2012 is new technology more than 20a

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rhr

you want buy new PSU 1000 watt? 1200 watt? you want 1600 watt?? you don't know... you will get bills electic MORE!!! MORE 1!! $$$$$$$$ forget it ... I had ITX with 80 watt, cheap bills!! lol...

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Evo Dragon

huh? I paid $17 to $26 electric bill for home alone trailer/home mobile with 750 watt PSU. will plan to get 1000w PSU. my GPU alway power hunger for high end gamer.

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Evo Dragon

rhr, here's link for PSU calculator.

Newegg.com - Recommended Power Supply Calculator.

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Foxrac

True, I left gaming PC desktop (750 watts) for 24/7 but VERY tiny impact on electricity bill.

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Evo Dragon

I was living with parent's house. It was $50 to $100 electric bill monthly. I hate parent's rules. They bothered me due play games. I moved out myself. lol

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Ausrider

750w power supplys dont draw 750w constantly thats just its peak, while idling they will draw only a fraction of that.

The Highlander

100 amp for HDD/SSD/dvd burner? Oh my lord!

No, It's for video card only. Again, max 20 amp for hdd/SSD/and blu-ray/dvdburner only, that's what rail for.

It doesn't matter about bill electric as computer is idle or not use GPU power as game and CAD.

I am 100% agreed with you.

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rhr

And CAREFUL... if had 1000 to up watter, Do not use outlet, only one alone plug to wall plate... warning limit 15amp on wall page!!! ..if 16 amp or more electic will shut from fuse control!!!

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rhr

I can't buy any 750 watter or more... crazy

I must 500 watt or less becuase I had four computer, one HTPC upsatir, I not use
3 computer, 470 watt + 350 watt + 80 watt = 900 watt plus router, docsis, switch 1000, camera, printer, more amp around 1000+ amp!!
I hate bills!!

3 computer for I work and leran server
1 htpc for relex

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The Highlander

Don't matter.

Video Card & PSU "12V Rails" mean?

Read it again.

Most of them are max 15 amps for Input Current.

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Ocie Denver

Watt has nothing with amp. Amp is measure of electrical current. PSU use regular electrical plug like other common applications as electrical code required so. Watt measures how much power an electrical device can consume in order to work. For example, 100 watts light bulb can consume power five times than 20 watts light bulb, more brighter and hotter.

A fuse can be blew if it can't handle amount of amps used by an application or run all applications in a kitchen at once. It's like if you try to plug an 240 V electrical range to 120 V outlet, end up got a fuse blow up.

However, fuses can be upgraded to handle more amps with help of a professional electrician.

What Makes a Fuse Blow?

Many electronics use type of power supply called switch mode power supply. Mobile phones and laptops use those.

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rhr

IT IS 15 AMP, ONLY PLUG ONE TO WALL PLATE NOT USE OUTLET or SURGE PROTECTOR

if you say no matter, you get risk up to you, I not help you sorry yourself go 1200 watt on outlet

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Evo Dragon

My god... if you want saving money. I suggest you install ENGERY STAR LIGHT BULBS. avoid old-fashion standard light bulbs can eat your bill up


or... your PSU is not "Gold 80 plus" label mean saving your money on your electrical bill.

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