want a laptop

cdmeggers · 12-19-2011, 04:43 PM

My grandparents are giving me up to $1000 for a new computer. I'm looking around at laptops to replace my Acer Aspire netbook (it's like 3 years old, doesn't even work all that well anymore). I want a good sturdy quality laptop (not a Mac, won't be able to afford that, don't want the Mac Air or whatever it is). Any of you have any suggestions? I want a laptop that'll last a good long while, at least 6-8 GB RAM, have a lot of performance capabilities... Definitely avoiding Dells, don't want to go for Acer either. I've been all over the internet, comparing and reading reviews. Will go back to Best Buy to look at their laptops more closely, maybe even Staples. Will also check with a local computer shop as well (they also do customizations).

**Chevy57** · 12-19-2011, 05:30 PM

MacBook Pro is better than PC notebook I had used some PC notebooks but lot of problem about slow performance and some virus.

cdmeggers · 12-19-2011, 07:32 PM

I can't afford a Mac. So I'm getting a PC laptop.

GuySmoke420 · 12-20-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

MacBook Pro is better than PC notebook I had used some PC notebooks but lot of problem about slow performance and some virus.

i agree with you.

**Jiro** · 12-20-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cdmeggers

I can't afford a Mac. So I'm getting a PC laptop.

think money smart. buy one on credit like at Best Buy or MacMall.com (no payment/no interest for 6 months plus $20 off).

if you can afford buying PC laptop after few years... then surely you can afford a Mac right now. Your laptop is 3 years old now and already you need a new one.... so that's 2 laptops together that you wasted your money on. Many many many MacBooks last much longer than 3 years. It's equivalent to 3 PC laptops.

diehardbiker · 12-20-2011, 10:21 PM

Im sorry, I agree with these suggestion you got from ADers. MAC rocks! MAC are much more stable, and the upgrade is dirty cheap. Lets compare software

Micro$oft upgrade from XP to Windows 7 cost whopping 150 dollars, depending on which editon, limit one per PC

MAC? Upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion cost? 25 dollars, limit to TWO MAC.

Today PC even laptop really pretty much shitty than it was 15 years ago.

I might buy ipad 2 this winter time. I played with it the other day and love it.

The Highlander · 12-20-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cdmeggers

I can't afford a Mac. So I'm getting a PC laptop.

Macbook long life than most PC. Most of PC will worn out in 2-3 years then You just wasted your money with cheap PC.

My macbook is 5 years old and still works great. Sad, most of my family's replaced PC laptops two times under 5 years and I still have same one. There is payment plan which make afford for you.

SimonJ · 12-21-2011, 01:58 AM

I always buy the business version, currently a Samung (great screen) previously Dell (never again) and before that IBM or Lenovo as it is today. Recently bought a Toshiba with 8G Ram and a quad core processor and a 2Gb graphics card for about $1400 (we did a deal on that and a small netbook).

SimonJ · 12-21-2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Most of PC will worn out in 2-3 years then You just wasted your money with cheap PC.
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You've been buying some pretty crappy PC's if they only last 2-3 years. I have several machines older than 5 years at home and at work some older than 10 years.

**Jiro** · 12-21-2011, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

You've been buying some pretty crappy PC's if they only last 2-3 years. I have several machines older than 5 years at home and at work some older than 10 years.

speak for yourself.... a 3-years old Acer Aspire netbook that doesn't work well.....

**Jiro** · 12-21-2011, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

I always buy the business version, currently a Samung (great screen) previously Dell (never again) and before that IBM or Lenovo as it is today. Recently bought a Toshiba with 8G Ram and a quad core processor and a 2Gb graphics card for about $1400 (we did a deal on that and a small netbook).

what a shame.... oh well.

The Highlander · 12-21-2011, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

You've been buying some pretty crappy PC's if they only last 2-3 years. I have several machines older than 5 years at home and at work some older than 10 years.

What machines? Laptop? Server? Desktop?

Umm, Who said I bought pc laptop if they work only last 2-3 years? In fact, I had old Acer laptop from 2003 and I gave it to my father and he still use it and it's works great for 8 years so far.

Again, Most newer PC laptop from 2010 or early are SUCK big time.

Like diehardbiker said.

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Today PC even laptop really pretty much shitty than it was 15 years ago.

diehardbiker · 12-21-2011, 05:56 AM

Yeah, just think about it, business grade PC may be as good as MAC and cost probably the same, yet it is alot cheaper to upgrade software and OS on MAC than PC. Its pretty much no brainer.

Problem with PC is that there is fierce and cut throat business in PC industry, and they are trying to cut corners to make little profit. HP almost bailed out PC business due to not much profit. That is why PC ended up shitty than 15 years ago.

SimonJ · 12-21-2011, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

speak for yourself.... a 3-years old Acer Aspire netbook that doesn't work well.....

Haha, I do! Yeah Acer is pretty crap but you get what you pay for.

ki4jgt · 12-21-2011, 08:07 AM

I don't know where you got your Aspire One but I've dropped mine about 10+ times on a concrete floor from 5+ feet in the air. I've spilled grease and water on it. I've gotten food crumbs in it. Mine still works and I've had it for about 4 years now. All PCs I've gotten have lasted me WAY longer than they have most people. I still have my first laptop from 1995 running Linux (no maintenance has been performed on it whatsoever) If this is what people have come to expect from their PCs, I can understand why people get so angry at me when I tell them to get another PC. I guess for some unknown reason, I get WAY more use out of mine than the average person.

PowerON · 12-21-2011, 11:02 AM

If you really want to get PC laptop. DON'T get personal laptop, get business laptop. Because the personal laptop come with full of crap applications. Then you have to pay more for RAM and add anti-virus app to keep update for 3 years.... Wait a min... Mac don't need either and cost same as PC you spend.

Dell business laptop is BEST to get.

I have MacBook for 5 years, that's long I ever had and it work fine. Next year or so, it would be good time for me to replace new MacBook Pro.

**Banjo** · 12-21-2011, 11:07 AM

Computers should be viewed as a LONG-TERM investment. However, far too many people prefer to save money now rather than save it in the long run. That's the first mistake many novice users make.

Thankfully, I view my computers as long-term investments.

**sequoias** · 12-21-2011, 11:08 AM

Get a Macbook Pro, you generally spend less in the long run. IT's only a few hundred more than $1,000 to get one. Windows upgrade costs few times more than Mac OS upgrades. Also, if you buy a new PC laptop...you generally end up with lot of junk on it. Mac computers don't have that kind of thing. Also, Windows come with IE built in, that's the huge inconvenience.

**Oddball** · 12-21-2011, 04:13 PM

I have a IBM computer with XP OS for 10 years and it still run well. I have a Acer one netbook for three years and it works allright (defective internal battery operation)..it must be wired...I could not carry it around wirelessly anymore. I sold a Dell netbook (from Purple) to someone one year ago because I did not need it anymore.

I plan to get a Macbook Pro laptop for my business..when? Honestly, good question. I will purchase it through my union membership benefits which will save me $200 of the retail price..not much, but better than nothing. I will get ipad 3 later on in 2012..no rush. I choose a Macbook pro laptop over PC laptop because I know it runs longer than any pc laptop in the timeframe. Maybe my xmas and bday monies will go toward a purchase of Macbook Pro laptop, then I will pay monthly on the remaining balance...I have to make a decision myself.

I agree with Diehardbiker's comment: "Today PC even laptop really pretty much shitty than it was 15 years ago." That's why I was ambivalent on purchasing a new PC tower to replace my IBM tower. Right now, I don't care anymore as long as my IBM tower computer still runs.

My iphone died on me twice and I stubbornly revived my iphone by pushing two buttons at the same time..PAH it bounced back from the dead. Geez. My iphone now become ifrankstein from now on.

ki4jgt · 12-21-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

If you really want to get PC laptop. DON'T get personal laptop, get business laptop. Because the personal laptop come with full of crap applications. Then you have to pay more for RAM and add anti-virus app to keep update for 3 years.... Wait a min... Mac don't need either and cost same as PC you spend.

Dell business laptop is BEST to get.

I have MacBook for 5 years, that's long I ever had and it work fine. Next year or so, it would be good time for me to replace new MacBook Pro.

One may install Linux on a PC and have the same virus protection as Mac (in cases) even better.

The Highlander · 12-22-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ki4jgt

One may install Linux on a PC and have the same virus protection as Mac (in cases) even better.

Linux's app are so limited unlike OSX. Even OSX have more games than Linux. Linux is good for server and simple user.

SimonJ · 12-22-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Linux's app are so limited unlike OSX. Even OSX have more games than Linux. Linux is good for server and simple user.

Debian has thousands of applications, all for free, you think OSX has more? lmao

I can do anything you can do on OSX, also I don't get told what music I can and can't play. Or where I can buy DVD's from, as for games, you haven't heard of PlayOnLinux then? Home - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily!

**Jiro** · 12-22-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

Debian has thousands of applications, all for free, you think OSX has more? lmao

I can do anything you can do on OSX, also I don't get told what music I can and can't play. Or where I can buy DVD's from, as for games, you haven't heard of PlayOnLinux then? Home - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily!

illegally obtained?

The Highlander · 12-22-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

Debian has thousands of applications, all for free, you think OSX has more? lmao

I can do anything you can do on OSX, also I don't get told what music I can and can't play. Or where I can buy DVD's from, as for games, you haven't heard of PlayOnLinux then? Home - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily!

OH yeah I am sure all of them are junk and useless to me. Even OpenOffice and GIMP are suck. No wonder they are free. I am very happy with Photoshop and M$ Office over crap free software. Yes, I tried BOTH of them before. You get what You pay for

I heard lot linux user got headache thru game as Steam Welcome to Steam but no problem for OSX user and Windows user

SimonJ · 12-22-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

illegally obtained?

No, I've lived in several countries and regions, why do I have to re-buy DVD's I have bought because I have moved?

It's all a con to make us keep buying the same stuff, Microsoft and Apple must have got a cut, but I did not.

**Jiro** · 12-22-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

No, I've lived in several countries and regions, why do I have to re-buy DVD's I have bought because I have moved?

It's all a con to make us keep buying the same stuff, Microsoft and Apple must have got a cut, but I did not.

because law's a law.

SimonJ · 12-22-2011, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

OH yeah I am sure all of them are junk and useless to me. Even OpenOffice and GIMP are suck. No wonder they are free. I am very happy with Photoshop and M$ Office over crap free software. Yes, I tried BOTH of them before. You get what You pay for

I heard lot linux user got headache thru game as Steam Welcome to Steam but no problem for OSX user and Windows user

If you can afford Photoshop and MS Office for home use then you have more money than I do. For what I need gthumb does what I want and Libre Office opens everything work sends me. My reason for not using Microsoft products is their lying, cheating ways and the idea that they can buy off anyone that opposes them.

**Jiro** · 12-22-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonJ

If you can afford Photoshop and MS Office for home use then you have more money than I do. For what I need gthumb does what I want and Libre Office opens everything work sends me. My reason for not using Microsoft products is their lying, cheating ways and the idea that they can buy off anyone that opposes them.

there's student discount for those products.

diehardbiker · 12-22-2011, 11:25 PM

Yup and usually very deep discount.

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Originally Posted by Jiro

there's student discount for those products.

SimonJ · 12-22-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

there's student discount for those products.

Then it's not for home use is it? Even so I why pay for something which would be of no value to me?

12-19-2011, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
cdmeggers Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyoming Posts: 2,192	want a laptop My grandparents are giving me up to $1000 for a new computer. I'm looking around at laptops to replace my Acer Aspire netbook (it's like 3 years old, doesn't even work all that well anymore). I want a good sturdy quality laptop (not a Mac, won't be able to afford that, don't want the Mac Air or whatever it is). Any of you have any suggestions? I want a laptop that'll last a good long while, at least 6-8 GB RAM, have a lot of performance capabilities... Definitely avoiding Dells, don't want to go for Acer either. I've been all over the internet, comparing and reading reviews. Will go back to Best Buy to look at their laptops more closely, maybe even Staples. Will also check with a local computer shop as well (they also do customizations). __________________ My Ear Blog Advanced Bionics BEA Volunteer Mentor

12-19-2011, 05:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-20-2011, 10:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
diehardbiker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In back of Superduty Posts: 11,209	Im sorry, I agree with these suggestion you got from ADers. MAC rocks! MAC are much more stable, and the upgrade is dirty cheap. Lets compare software Micro$oft upgrade from XP to Windows 7 cost whopping 150 dollars, depending on which editon, limit one per PC MAC? Upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion cost? 25 dollars, limit to TWO MAC. Today PC even laptop really pretty much shitty than it was 15 years ago. I might buy ipad 2 this winter time. I played with it the other day and love it. __________________ J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all" "If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson (1778) Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

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diehardbiker Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In back of Superduty Posts: 11,209	Yeah, just think about it, business grade PC may be as good as MAC and cost probably the same, yet it is alot cheaper to upgrade software and OS on MAC than PC. Its pretty much no brainer. Problem with PC is that there is fierce and cut throat business in PC industry, and they are trying to cut corners to make little profit. HP almost bailed out PC business due to not much profit. That is why PC ended up shitty than 15 years ago. __________________ J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all" "If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny." Thomas Jefferson (1778) Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

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12-21-2011, 01:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
SimonJ Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Perth, WA Posts: 732	I always buy the business version, currently a Samung (great screen) previously Dell (never again) and before that IBM or Lenovo as it is today. Recently bought a Toshiba with 8G Ram and a quad core processor and a 2Gb graphics card for about $1400 (we did a deal on that and a small netbook).

12-21-2011, 08:07 AM	#15 (permalink)
ki4jgt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 136	I don't know where you got your Aspire One but I've dropped mine about 10+ times on a concrete floor from 5+ feet in the air. I've spilled grease and water on it. I've gotten food crumbs in it. Mine still works and I've had it for about 4 years now. All PCs I've gotten have lasted me WAY longer than they have most people. I still have my first laptop from 1995 running Linux (no maintenance has been performed on it whatsoever) If this is what people have come to expect from their PCs, I can understand why people get so angry at me when I tell them to get another PC. I guess for some unknown reason, I get WAY more use out of mine than the average person.

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PowerON Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 37.5, 126.9 Posts: 10,319 Blog Entries: 5	If you really want to get PC laptop. DON'T get personal laptop, get business laptop. Because the personal laptop come with full of crap applications. Then you have to pay more for RAM and add anti-virus app to keep update for 3 years.... Wait a min... Mac don't need either and cost same as PC you spend. Dell business laptop is BEST to get. I have MacBook for 5 years, that's long I ever had and it work fine. Next year or so, it would be good time for me to replace new MacBook Pro. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

12-21-2011, 11:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
Banjo Expelled Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,650	Computers should be viewed as a LONG-TERM investment. However, far too many people prefer to save money now rather than save it in the long run. That's the first mistake many novice users make. Thankfully, I view my computers as long-term investments. Beach girl likes this.

12-21-2011, 11:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,851	Get a Macbook Pro, you generally spend less in the long run. IT's only a few hundred more than $1,000 to get one. Windows upgrade costs few times more than Mac OS upgrades. Also, if you buy a new PC laptop...you generally end up with lot of junk on it. Mac computers don't have that kind of thing. Also, Windows come with IE built in, that's the huge inconvenience.

12-21-2011, 04:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Oddball Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Toxic State Posts: 4,569	I have a IBM computer with XP OS for 10 years and it still run well. I have a Acer one netbook for three years and it works allright (defective internal battery operation)..it must be wired...I could not carry it around wirelessly anymore. I sold a Dell netbook (from Purple) to someone one year ago because I did not need it anymore. I plan to get a Macbook Pro laptop for my business..when? Honestly, good question. I will purchase it through my union membership benefits which will save me $200 of the retail price..not much, but better than nothing. I will get ipad 3 later on in 2012..no rush. I choose a Macbook pro laptop over PC laptop because I know it runs longer than any pc laptop in the timeframe. Maybe my xmas and bday monies will go toward a purchase of Macbook Pro laptop, then I will pay monthly on the remaining balance...I have to make a decision myself. I agree with Diehardbiker's comment: "Today PC even laptop really pretty much shitty than it was 15 years ago." That's why I was ambivalent on purchasing a new PC tower to replace my IBM tower. Right now, I don't care anymore as long as my IBM tower computer still runs. My iphone died on me twice and I stubbornly revived my iphone by pushing two buttons at the same time..PAH it bounced back from the dead. Geez. My iphone now become ifrankstein from now on.

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