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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4g

Yep I am not a technolgoy whiz!

I am curious if I turn 4G off in order to keep my cell phone bettery life longer? Is 4G necessary to use it for my pager? I read somewhere on line that somoene turned 4g off to keep battery life longer.

I have no clue what 4G is. So hope some of you will be able to explain, probably waste your time if i still don't grasp of it.

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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Also, Should I turn bluetooth too? I have no idea what bluetooth is used for?

I will leave WIFI on and GPS on. Thanks!
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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Frisky Feline,

Wifi, 4G, GPS and bluetooth will shorten the battery life. If you want to extend the battery life, try to switch it to 2G (edge) with some kind of application that can switch between 2g, 3g and 4g on the fly. What kind of phone do you use?

bluetooth is technically a wireless USB interface. It can connect to wireless headphones, printers, keyboards, etc.

Dimming the screen will help extend the battery life as well. The screen is one of the features that will drain the battery a lot.
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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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FIrst of all, what bluetooth is used for? what is 4G for ? I think I understand GPS that i do not mind to be spotted by a cop or whatever for my own safety. I think I understand wifi but not really.

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Hope Poweron or Naisho may be able to explain.. I hope they do not mind!!!
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Unread 05-19-2011, 09:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hope Poweron or Naisho may be able to explain.. I hope they do not mind!!!
I already answered about bluetooth. 4G is 4th generation of the celluar wireless signal generally has faster upload speeds and download speeds than 3G depending on the wireless carrier and the location you are in.

wifi is basically a wireless hot spot in one location like a coffee shop or at home with your own wireless router.
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Frisky Feline,

Wifi, 4G, GPS and bluetooth will shorten the battery life. If you want to extend the battery life, try to switch it to 2G (edge) with some kind of application that can switch between 2g, 3g and 4g on the fly. What kind of phone do you use?

bluetooth is technically a wireless USB interface. It can connect to wireless headphones, printers, keyboards, etc.

Dimming the screen will help extend the battery life as well. The screen is one of the features that will drain the battery a lot.
Wi-Fi WILL NOT shorten the battery life if actually use it than rather use 3G.
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I already answered about bluetooth. 4G is 4th generation of the celluar wireless signal generally has faster upload speeds and download speeds than 3G depending on the wireless carrier and the location you are in.

wifi is basically a wireless hot spot in one location like a coffee shop or at home with your own wireless router.
SO I guess I can turn bluetooth off since I don't use printer or anything.

4G might be useful for games if you plan to play or download stuff only? It has nothing to do with email or message but only you want to make it faster but slow or fast and still receives anyway right?

WIFI is something i have trouble grasping but i guess I leave WIFI on?
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FIrst of all, what bluetooth is used for? what is 4G for ? I think I understand GPS that i do not mind to be spotted by a cop or whatever for my own safety. I think I understand wifi but not really.

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Advanced Task Manager and Juice Defender app for saving battery life
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https://market.android.com/details?i...fe.taskmanager
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Advanced Task Manager and Juice Defender app for saving battery life
. I don't know which one is better.

Oh, you mean I need to look up into the application to search for "advanced task manager or juice defender" to decide on which is better in order to make battery life longer?

forgive me for being me like that but i like to see all of your comments and review on the onlines and plan to ask the sprint store. But hey the sprint store people may not know much. This is why I like to collect everything to make sense to me.
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Oh, you mean I need to look up into the application to search for "advanced task manager or juice defender" to decide on which is better in order to make battery life longer?

forgive me for being me like that but i like to see all of your comments and review on the onlines and plan to ask the sprint store. But hey the sprint store people may not know much. This is why I like to collect everything to make sense to me.
See more info on them on my post above.
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thank you, chevy. I am still learning about it. I ll check those links for sure.
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JuiceDefender - battery saver | Battery manager app for Android is not working link.


the second link is working.
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Unread 05-19-2011, 10:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Here's a simple overview of the various things and how they're used:

GPS: Global Positioning System. If this is on, you can use apps like Google Maps as a navigation system for your phone and it'll show you where you currently are. Many other apps will also use this to provide more applicable information. (For example, Foursquare will use your GPS to show you which locations are near you.) Some people express concerns that this may allow people and the government to track you, but they can already do that with triangulation of cellular networks.

Wi-Fi: Used to connect to the internet over a wireless network (such as at work, at home, at Starbucks). This gives your phone faster download speeds and tends to use somewhat less battery power than utilizing the phone connection for internet downloads and the like. Turning this off when you're not using it will save a little bit of battery power.

Bluetooth: Short-range wireless pairing between devices. This is most often used on phones with wireless headsets and headphones. You can also use this to connect to your computer, but connecting via a USB cable is both faster and uses less power. If you're not using any of these devices, then you definitely want to turn this off, as leaving it on is a large power drain.

4G: This is the "fourth generation" cellular network. Basically, when you're out and access anything on the internet, this makes your phone's connection almost as fast as your broadband connection at home. This uses more power than 3G and Wifi, but if you have access to a 4G network in your city, the speed increase will almost certainly be noticeable. If you remember to turn it on and off when you're using it, you can increase the battery life by turning it off when you're not using the internet on your phone. Keep in mind that any applications which receive notifications from the web (such as if you using Google Voice for texting) will be using this, so turning this off and using 2G or 3G may result in slower notifications than you're used to if you're not normally turning it off.

3G: The "third generation" cellular network. Basically the same stuff as above applies. To the best of my knowledge (I might be wrong) you only using either 4G or 3G or 2G, but none at the same time. If you're using internet, you probably always want to be using 4G as long as you have it.

2G: The default or normal cellular network. This is what most cell phones default to for simple tasks like placing calls and receiving direct texts (ie not via an app like Google Voice). You don't need to mess with this at all, just including so you knew what I was talking about with the other stuff, lol.
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That is the clearest, most concise, description I've ever seen of the ins and outs of phone technology. Thanks for that, StSapphire.
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That is the clearest, most concise, description I've ever seen of the ins and outs of phone technology. Thanks for that, StSapphire.
No problem. Back in high school I worked in sales for electronics, so I got good at explaining technology terms and thingies in a way that's understandable to non-technical people, lol.
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I really appreciate your time, stsapphire. It makes sense to me. I can turn 4g off or on whenever it is necessary for me. I have no problem locating my 4g that it is right there to turn it off or on at anytime. for now, I will leave 4G on. I only will turn 4g off when i go out with girlfriends. Needless to say, I did turn the bluetooth off so i ll turn it on if i plan to use phones with wireless headsets and headphones whatever. It's getting better for me now.

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good posts everyone- looks like I am very late in the game to add my comments. But I will add my 2 cents-. bluetooth is only good if you want to add gizmos like hands free ear/mouth piece, connect to local printers to print, or use to send data to another mobile device. For the most of us deafies/hoh we don't use it. It is a huge power drain feature to use. same with GPS, but I use the GPS feature alot. I use it to check in, use it for blip tracking, navigation if I forget my tomtom unit.

can't explain anything better then StSapphire on 4g...

If your issue is the battery life and don't mind having a bulkier unit, have you thought about replacing your andriod regular battery to Seidio Innocell 2600mAh Extended Battery? I replaced my blackberry to the simalar battery from same company and I went from 1 day to 2.5 days on a single charge on light use. The vibrator feature really eats the battery so just chatting drains the battery but I have no choice.
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Thanks radioman, I d like to keep GPS on like you mentioned. I only turned bluetooth off. I left 4G, GPS and WIFI on.

I will worry about the battery life to replace it or not. I don't travel that much. I usually work or home or friends home. SO i tend to recharge them right there. But I will look around the battery that way I can learn more about it.

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Thanks radioman, I d like to keep GPS on like you mentioned. I only turned bluetooth off. I left 4G, GPS and WIFI on.

I will worry about the battery life to replace it or not. I don't travel that much. I usually work or home or friends home. SO i tend to recharge them right there. But I will look around the battery that way I can learn more about it.

Thanks!!
Yeah. I use GPS on my iPhone while walking and ride NYC subway to reach hotel. battery drained quickly. Wow. I should carry extended battery pack for emergency.
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Yeah. I use GPS on my iPhone while walking and ride NYC subway to reach hotel. battery drained quickly. Wow. I should carry extended battery pack for emergency.
Oh that's true. My girlfriend has iphone and used gps to walk searching for the empire state building. all of a sudden, she said, " please page my hubby for me because my iphone is dead". I was like, "huh already?" now I see what you have the same experience. Yea it's a good idea to bring extra bettery.
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Thanks radioman, I d like to keep GPS on like you mentioned. I only turned bluetooth off. I left 4G, GPS and WIFI on.

I will worry about the battery life to replace it or not. I don't travel that much. I usually work or home or friends home. SO i tend to recharge them right there. But I will look around the battery that way I can learn more about it.

Thanks!!
For me, I only turn on GPS or wifi on when needed. I don't need it on all the time because it drains the battery quickly. Why do you need the GPS on all the time? Do you get lost easily?
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For me, I only turn on GPS or wifi on when needed. I don't need it on all the time because it drains the battery quickly. Why do you need the GPS on all the time? Do you get lost easily?
LOL you are right. I don't know why I want GPS on. I feel weird to turn GPS off, WIFI off, BLUETOOTH off while I am at work. BLUETOOTH is hardly used for me. I will expertiemnt with GPS and WIFI to see .. I am afraid that no one wont send me messages without wifi??? I would not be worried if i turn GPS off but wifi?
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for now, i turned GPS off along with the bluetooth.
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Wi-Fi WILL NOT shorten the battery life if actually use it than rather use 3G.
Agreed with ya. I never turn my iPhone's WIFI off. It got 2-3 days battery life with 3G and WIFI enable.
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LOL you are right. I don't know why I want GPS on. I feel weird to turn GPS off, WIFI off, BLUETOOTH off while I am at work. BLUETOOTH is hardly used for me. I will expertiemnt with GPS and WIFI to see .. I am afraid that no one wont send me messages without wifi??? I would not be worried if i turn GPS off but wifi?
You still use message and internet thru 3G without a WIFI. WIFI is just speed up for internet than 3G/4G if you have high speed interent at home or free wifi at cafe.
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LOL you are right. I don't know why I want GPS on. I feel weird to turn GPS off, WIFI off, BLUETOOTH off while I am at work. BLUETOOTH is hardly used for me. I will expertiemnt with GPS and WIFI to see .. I am afraid that no one wont send me messages without wifi??? I would not be worried if i turn GPS off but wifi?
I never use bluetooth, so it's not really an issue pretty much.

You can use GPS only if you need directions to that location or find closest businesses in the area which is useful. You might want to use wifi if you want to share large files over the phone like bunch of pictures or videos, etc. You still can get messages on 4g network just fine. I have mine to sync emails.

It won't hurt to experiment.
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Seq, Yeah. i am so slow with the advanced technology.


I really appreciate all of your inputs here. THANKS!
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For me, I only turn on GPS or wifi on when needed. I don't need it on all the time because it drains the battery quickly. Why do you need the GPS on all the time? Do you get lost easily?
lost ? no.. I leave min on 24/7 as well my wifey and son. Blip (blackline snitch) saved me and wifey many times. Suppose you have a kid who plays away sports for school and you never been to that school before? No matter how well you check the website where the away games are, you alway seem to end up in wrong spot or school or something changed last minute? I can just blip my son's pager and follow it to correct location. Or I been to that area before and wifey never been there, she can blip me and arrive at my location. You need to have gps on all the time for this to work.
One time my wife car broke down and she said she is on that road but doesnt know where on that road. I can just blip her and know how close or far I am. Very useful.

On the other hand, if you got kids who drive and need to make sure they are not straying off from a said path to a location....
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lost ? no.. I leave min on 24/7 as well my wifey and son. Blip (blackline snitch) saved me and wifey many times. Suppose you have a kid who plays away sports for school and you never been to that school before? No matter how well you check the website where the away games are, you alway seem to end up in wrong spot or school or something changed last minute? I can just blip my son's pager and follow it to correct location. Or I been to that area before and wifey never been there, she can blip me and arrive at my location. You need to have gps on all the time for this to work.
One time my wife car broke down and she said she is on that road but doesnt know where on that road. I can just blip her and know how close or far I am. Very useful.

On the other hand, if you got kids who drive and need to make sure they are not straying off from a said path to a location....
Sounds like invading their privacy. Do your kids run away more after they use that technology? Kids learn from mistakes, not preventing from mistakes. :-)
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