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Unread 01-17-2011, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Airport necessary for PC/Mac network?

I have a Windows PC with ethernet connection to router. The router is also wireless. My Windows netbook connects thru and networks (Homegroup) thru the PC. If I get a wireless Mac laptop, can I use the current router without networking thru the PC? Or, do I need an Airport router connected to the other router?

Is a happy mixed (Windows and Mac) marriage possible?
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Unread 01-17-2011, 12:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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An airport might be too big for your property. Imagine the costs alone from paving the runaway!

I can easily tell you that you don't need an Airport router just because it's from Apple. You can use pretty much any routers. I would recommend routers from D-Link. I use their routers.
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Unread 01-17-2011, 12:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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An airport might be too big for your property. Imagine the costs alone from paving the runaway!
Heh, heh, yeah. I might have to settle for a heliport and cut down some trees.

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I can easily tell you that you don't need an Airport router just because it's from Apple. You can use pretty much any routers. I would recommend routers from D-Link. I use their routers.


I just thought of another question.

For someone else.

Suppose there is an ethernet connection built into the room, such as hotels have but you want to use your laptop as a wireless. Can an Airport router be connected to that in order to convert it to wireless function?
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Unread 01-17-2011, 12:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a Windows PC with ethernet connection to router. The router is also wireless. My Windows netbook connects thru and networks (Homegroup) thru the PC. If I get a wireless Mac laptop, can I use the current router without networking thru the PC? Or, do I need an Airport router connected to the other router?

Is a happy mixed (Windows and Mac) marriage possible?
Yes, almost 99% of router brand work fine for Windows and OS X. I have an airport express and I disliked it so much. I never like airport's port forwarding system. The d-link is better one ever I tried.
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Unread 01-17-2011, 12:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Heh, heh, yeah. I might have to settle for a heliport and cut down some trees.




I just thought of another question.

For someone else.

Suppose there is an ethernet connection built into the room, such as hotels have but you want to use your laptop as a wireless. Can an Airport router be connected to that in order to convert it to wireless function?
Correct, but few hotels must use Internet Explorer to login which stupid idea to me.
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Unread 01-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Correct, but few hotels must use Internet Explorer to login which stupid idea to me.
The place I'm asking about isn't an actual hotel but a private guest suite. It's connected to the internet via a short ethernet cable that comes out of the wall. It doesn't require registering--just plug in.

I was just curious if something like the Airport could be connected in order to allow wireless laptops to be used for more freedom.
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Unread 01-17-2011, 01:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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LOL, you got joke in perspective, yeah already answered correctly, any wireless router will do the trick. The Internet connections use pretty much standard protocol, which is called TCP/IP with IPv4 (IPv6 is coming very soon). SO, does not matter which wireless router is used for wireless connections.

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An airport might be too big for your property. Imagine the costs alone from paving the runaway!

I can easily tell you that you don't need an Airport router just because it's from Apple. You can use pretty much any routers. I would recommend routers from D-Link. I use their routers.
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Unread 01-17-2011, 02:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What's the difference between AirPort Extreme and Express?
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The place I'm asking about isn't an actual hotel but a private guest suite. It's connected to the internet via a short ethernet cable that comes out of the wall. It doesn't require registering--just plug in.

I was just curious if something like the Airport could be connected in order to allow wireless laptops to be used for more freedom.
I understand what you are saying- but are you sure you want to expose thier network to wireless mode? there might be a reason why they have wired only in the room. did you ask them about it? have you scanned for wireless networks yet while you were there ? Perhaps they already have wireless.

On the other hand a pocket wireless router is what you are thinking of. like this one- D-Link High Speed 2.4GHz (802.11g) Wireless Pocket Router/AP
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Your thinking the same way I think. I never liked the idea of wireless because you really can't see it and even worse can't see somebody hooks up and steals which can compromise the bandwidth, plus increases security risks.

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I understand what you are saying- but are you sure you want to expose thier network to wireless mode? there might be a reason why they have wired only in the room. did you ask them about it? have you scanned for wireless networks yet while you were there ? Perhaps they already have wireless.

On the other hand a pocket wireless router is what you are thinking of. like this one- D-Link High Speed 2.4GHz (802.11g) Wireless Pocket Router/AP
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Unread 01-17-2011, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I understand what you are saying- but are you sure you want to expose thier network to wireless mode? there might be a reason why they have wired only in the room. did you ask them about it? have you scanned for wireless networks yet while you were there ? Perhaps they already have wireless.

On the other hand a pocket wireless router is what you are thinking of. like this one- D-Link High Speed 2.4GHz (802.11g) Wireless Pocket Router/AP
Their reason was--quick and cheap.

Many of the guests who stay there bring their own routers because they are groups or families who have more than one laptop.

Yes, I scanned for WiFi--nothing there.
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Their reason was--quick and cheap.

Many of the guests who stay there bring their own routers because they are groups or families who have more than one laptop.

Yes, I scanned for WiFi--nothing there.
Yes, some hotel do provide either WIFI or ethernet or both. If I happen to find ethernet, I rather use that than the hotel WiFi, then I hook up wireless router to ethernet jack, because I have two kids who go with me on a trip. So, all 3 of us can share wireless.

Now, reason of using ethernet than WIFI is because of they set it up access point in various location in the building in a poor design. There are time that I get a very slow speed on WiFi or very weak signal. IF I happen to find ethernet jack, I'll be very thrill to use that.
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What's the difference between AirPort Extreme and Express?
The Airport Extreme come with three Ethernet ports, dual-band, and share with external USB hard drive. The Airport Express don't have them.
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Airport express is very simple, small, no extra power adapter need and quick than DWL-G730AP.
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Your thinking the same way I think. I never liked the idea of wireless because you really can't see it and even worse can't see somebody hooks up and steals which can compromise the bandwidth, plus increases security risks.
Nobody can connect to my router except me. Unless it is a public hotspot, most routers should have some type of login/password.
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Your thinking the same way I think. I never liked the idea of wireless because you really can't see it and even worse can't see somebody hooks up and steals which can compromise the bandwidth, plus increases security risks.
What do you mean by that?
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I just hide our MAC ID. Airport utility supports reading log messages and we viewing statistics on our Airport Extreme. Four of them from our Macbook, Mini Mac, Macbook Air, and iPad.

So whatever someone used our router without our know then I can send logs to police for track someone's Mac ID. But I don't think it will happen since Airport will locked out after 5 not correct password.
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Begin Solution:

Throw the Mac out of the window.

End Solution.

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Yep, I agree.
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Begin Solution:

Throw the Mac out of the window.

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Try and program this and
implement it in a nearby mac user.
See what happens.


My WiFI network at home runs by Apple Airport
and the airport connects as many WiFi connected devices.
Like 2 PCs
2 Laptops
1 iMac
3 macbooks
5 iPhones
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My WiFI network at home runs by Apple Airport
and the airport connects as many WiFi connected devices.
Your WiFi is password protected, right?
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Throw the Mac out of the window.

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Error 3456: Line 2: Window unopen, incorrect syntax, must unlock first.
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Your WiFi is password protected, right?
Yes
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I have a Windows PC with ethernet connection to router. The router is also wireless. My Windows netbook connects thru and networks (Homegroup) thru the PC. If I get a wireless Mac laptop, can I use the current router without networking thru the PC? Or, do I need an Airport router connected to the other router?

Is a happy mixed (Windows and Mac) marriage possible?
Any wireless router that complies with the 802.11g, 802.11b or 802.11ncstandard will be compatible with your MacBook.
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Any normal routers should work just fine. I have a $15 Compusa router that works fine. It's upgraded with the latest Edimax ROM, since it's manufactured by Edimax.
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