Deluded

Most likely because you asked a very broad question, or people who recommended the products to you did not do their research very well. It depends on what category ATI video cards are the best; ATI GPUs are excellent at processing AA and AF, and thus will lose the lease amount of fps to processing AA/AF when compared to a nVidia product, especially at higher resolutions. Exceptions do exist, of course, but it's mainly due to game engine programming or bad drivers.

In other words; do your research before spending money.

Because currently AMD doesn't have the most powerful processor on the market. Intel's flagship i7 beats AMD in almost every category. Tell me, if you had money to spend, and compared Intel/AMD processors with each other and found out that Intel processor keeps beating it, which one would you buy? Intel, of course.

AMD sells for lower price because it can't compete in performance, therefore, it has to compete in price. This is why you see Phenom II X6 for ~$250, when Intel's cheapest hexcore (i7 970) sells for $900. Now, if the situation were reversed, you can bet your damn ass that AMD would sell Phenom II X6 for $900 and Intel for $250.

lolwut?

CPU (Central Processing Units) and GPU (Graphical Processing Unit) are two completely different systems, meant for completely different tasks. It's like comparing a construction 20-ton truck to a normal car. The only basis they have in common is the fact that both use a engine and four wheels. Same principle applies here.

Hey, whatever floats your boat. Just know that ATI (it's now AMD, cuz they recently discontinued the ATI) makes excellent GPUs.

Also... did you by any chance look at this? ATI has been able to use multi-GPUs since the 3000 series. Thats from 5 years ago up until now.

The PhysX is true, because PhsyX is a nVidia product and they won't license it to AMD. But point is, PhysX is mostly a marketing gimmik and very few AAA games even support it. The only game that comes to mind who actually used PhysX to great effect was Batman: Arkham Asylum. Mirror Edge was another, but it was poorly done.

Athlon FX is a processor. This was back in Pentium 4 days, when Intel released Pentium 4, but AMD's Athlon processor beat it in every category, despite being a full 1-1.5 ghz slower. Because AMD's Athlon FX was the most powerful CPU at the time, AMD sold it for $1000.

Which motherboard? As I said, x58 and x55 all natively support CF/SLI. s775 or AM3/AM2+ don't.

True, but they know a lot.

Deafness

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Zeroblazer21

oh man i miss that old day when i got the athlon 64 with my ecs neforce 2 mobo. i never forget about how i can play with doom3 and ff11 online sooo smooth...yeah sli and crossfire are same but in different way least i can get tessellation for 5xxx series but i can get 6xxx series... if i dont want to get 5xxx now i think about it. isnt the same system..like phys card but its almost like tessellation. right?

Deluded

Uhm, I don't follow. Tessellation is a DX11 feature, and DX11 cards support that, so yes, 5000 and above will have tessellation support.

The Highlander

Because you ignored me that I told you about motherboard was not great for game and no SLI support. That's all you insulted me.

Later, you just learned that you got wrong motherboard then replace it.

What's up with that?

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MYMDA2007

I was surprised that my motherboard do have SLI ! I wasn't pay attention but found out that one lane run full x16 and other lane run x4, I am not sure if worth upgrade to new mobo with 2 lanes full with x16, not x8 or x4.

I think 2 lanes with full both x16 runs more raw powers.

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Motherboard don't carry a LOT power thru SLOT. That's all you use your power supply's 4 pin or 6 pin molex direct to your video card.

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MYMDA2007

OFC, did I mentioned power supply ? nope lol

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Hmm. SLI can't run without power supply.

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Zeroblazer21

oh nvm. lol i understand now.

Foxrac

Some video card require 8 pin molex direct.

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The Highlander

Nice. That's mean they are over 300watts of GPU that must 8 pin molex.

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The Highlander

Please use quote button to someone that you want to talk to avoid from confused.

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happy now?

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Foxrac

Probably.

I found one that has 8 pin molex.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130551

If your PSU don't have 8 pin molex so you can use 2x 6 pin converter into 8 pin to get work.

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The Highlander

I like PSU with modular that make my life more easy. Less mess wires (allow more air flow thru case) and quick job.

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Zeroblazer21

thank you for telling me how to use it. i'm trying to get used to forums.. i'm getting now.

Zeroblazer21

ok everyone! highlander recommended this led montior from newegg...and i just got the email from newegg recently for 72hr ..i saw the great deal for asus montior. here's the link.

Newegg.com - ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR) Built-in Speakers or highlander's recommended one? i'm just asking opinion for everyone

The Highlander

No problem.

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few questions -
1. what's the size that you really want? you can give me a range like - "between 20-23"
2. what's your max budget?
3. you want a serious monitor?

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The Highlander

It's up to you. I suggest you visit to Best Buy and try find any TV with LED and try compare other LCD with your own eyes. You can tell which better picture for you. I noticed TV with LED is very rich pictures than LCD. The LCD have problem with blackerness for background that will be very bad for movie and games like Doom 3.

Same idea, Some people prefer plasma over LCD for horror movie but very bad for games that will cause burn on the screen. Some people prefer LCD over plasma for games and low power conditioner. So LED is better than plasma and LCD for pictures and low power conditioner. Some people dont noticed so much.

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Zeroblazer21

it's true i want a led because it look good, and it save elec bills

Foxrac

I forgot to tell about issue with 1920 x 1080 monitors.

Some people, including me to have hard time to read tiny words on 1920 x 1080.

Reduce the resolution isn't optional because it looks terrible on LCD if resolution isn't native.

Wear glasses or contacts do help some but not comfortable with read on tiny words.

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Zeroblazer21

it's true led is better than plasma..


around 160 to 180 with.
21 to 23 sound cool w me
yea for a serious gaming montior lol

The Highlander

You can change to 1024x640 or whatever that you can read very easy. Then set 1920x1080 for games only. When you open a game then your monitor screen will auto change from 1024x640 to 1920x1080 for game. When you exit a game then monitor screen will auto change from 1920x1080 to 1024x640. It make your life more easy.

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Zeroblazer21

lol yeah

MYMDA2007

What is your native resolution ?, Mine 1680x1050 for Windows and Gaming both same.

Some games have very small fonts on game menu or sub titled with 1920x1080.

1920x1080 is not very best for gaming if fonts are too small to read so scale down to 1680x1050 is best for easy read text and gaming runs smoother.

I know 1920x1080 looks sharp, clearer and details looks good, but eat up GPU ram, possibly run game like slideshow or choppy, stutter depends on computer spec.

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Zeroblazer21

yeah but i can change res if i can read,etc. that's better than nothing beside i will get a video card soon. my native res on this old is 1280x1024.

The Highlander

I can't remember what my native resolution from 19" LCD. I use my macbook right now.

That's right and I never max resolution out for games due my GPU was not powerful enough and hard time to read a tiny chatroom from multiplay.

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Zeroblazer21

i want to put my quote when i post...my quote is if your pc isnt overclocked. that's a crime not to be overclocked...what do you think?