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Unread 06-01-2010, 11:50 PM   #181 (permalink)
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we are getting off -topic here, but that depends on the company reception, Jiro.
Meh my topic is over anyways. Haters lost and its just the party after the show is over. Feel free to talk about whatever
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Unread 06-01-2010, 11:52 PM   #182 (permalink)
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I think some people just took the chance to do an ad hominem on your views,.
He is certainly entitled to his view.
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that's what I said. all of them sucks. sucks. sucks.
Lets move in here shall we? Jiro- psstt, come in here.
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He is certainly entitled to his view.
Not you bro. Some others.
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you condone criminals profiting from copyrighted materials. I don't.
Excuse me, it was misunderstood.

I means download the pirated movies from torrent at no charge.

I'm not talking about selling the pirated movies.

Overall, I do not support sell pirated movies, musics, games for profits.
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Anyway back to the topic - I use ecryption program. That's all I am going to say.

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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:14 AM   #187 (permalink)
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Excuse me, it was misunderstood.

I means download the pirated movies from torrent at no charge.

I'm not talking about selling the pirated movies.

Overall, I do not support sell pirated movies, musics, games for profits.
Just to be clear....

Are you saying it is ok, in your opinion, to download pirated (illegally obtained) movies? Now I realize some of their stuff is legal.....not talking about that. Just the pirated stuff.
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Excuse me, it was misunderstood.

I means download the pirated movies from torrent at no charge.

I'm not talking about selling the pirated movies.

Overall, I do not support sell pirated movies, musics, games for profits.
ah... for clarification. I understand now. There was some misunderstanding on my part too.
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ah... for clarification. I understand now. There was some misunderstanding on my part too.
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Just to be clear....

Are you saying it is ok, in your opinion, to download pirated (illegally obtained) movies? Now I realize some of their stuff is legal.....not talking about that. Just the pirated stuff.
Yes, they are not illegal to me, IMO.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:28 AM   #191 (permalink)
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Yes, they are not illegal to me, IMO.
WOW!

Ok....thx for answering
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Just to be clear....

Are you saying it is ok, in your opinion, to download pirated (illegally obtained) movies? Now I realize some of their stuff is legal.....not talking about that. Just the pirated stuff.
is it ok to download legally obtained movies?
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Ok....thx for answering
Well, for PC games, I think it is ok to download pirated games to use as demo or test if they like it before buy it, however I usually tell torrent users to pay it to support game developers if they like their games. I believe about nasty DRM should be forgiven to have pirated games, especially new Ubisoft permanent internet required because they are not worth to be priced at $50-$60 to cause an many issues with gamers.

Some people rent Netflix movies and rip the DVD to save in HDD, it is other tricky.
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Unread 06-02-2010, 12:41 AM   #194 (permalink)
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Most pirated movies are legally obtained... Just illegally distributed.
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is it ok to download legally obtained movies?


Most likely......unless the copyright forbids it. Most copyrights forbid any duplication,reproduction,redistribution or public display without consent.

I know even at the library when we have a movie night we get consent first even though the the library owns the movie......That is because it is public display even though there is no charge. We do sell refreshments and that's where the line gets blurry. We would probably be ok if we didn't sell refreshments. We get our written consent though and we have never been charged. Feels good to do it legally
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Pirated videogames are still illegal.

Only way a ripped game is legal is if the disc belongs to you, and you decide to back up. That's called "fair use."

Giving a game to your friend is called "lending."

Backing up the game and giving the copy to your friend for him to keep is technically..."piracy."
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Pirated videogames are still illegal.

Only way a ripped game is legal is if the disc belongs to you, and you decide to back up. That's called "fair use."

Giving a game to your friend is called "lending."

Backing up the game and giving the copy to your friend for him to keep is technically..."piracy."
Well, all consoles don't allow you to play backup games, it need be modded but risky about consequences.

I believe that pirated PC games are okay for use as demo before you buy legal one if you like this game, that what I did, unlike consoles, PC games are not rented via Gamefly.
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I read somewhere that Used game sales hurt more than piracy for PC games.
The piracy factor always remains same, but used games sales/trade are a new threat on the rise.
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That's why companies allow you to play demos....

Has been like that for years. Still no excuse to pirate games.
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I read somewhere that Used game sales hurt more than piracy for PC games.
The piracy factor always remains same, but used games sales/trade are a new threat on the rise.
Yup but if PC games have Steamworks so you are SOL because it cannot be sold after activated on Steam.
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That's why companies allow you to play demos....

Has been like that for years. Still no excuse to pirate games.
No, not all PC games have demo, just few of them.

Sometime, demo isn't enough so rent the games are option but it isn't for PC.
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No, not all PC games have demo, just few of them.
Still illegal......
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Can still sell your Steam account information.
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Still illegal......
I don't give a **** about illegal, you always say illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal.
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I don't give a **** about illegal, you always say illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal.
His title is "Patriot"
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No way, I'm not interested to sell my account information because I do have many favorite games on Steam.
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That's why companies allow you to play demos....

Has been like that for years. Still no excuse to pirate games.
No, not all PC games have demo, just few of them.

Sometime, demo isn't enough so rent the games are option but it isn't for PC.
Don't recall a single PC game I've purchased that didn't have a demo.

The ones without demos were POS.
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Can still sell your Steam account information.
Steam policy does not allow that
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Yup, but people ignore it and still do it anyway. Seen it all the time on other PC-related sites.
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Don't recall a single PC game I've purchased that didn't have a demo.

The ones without demos were POS.
You said that you aren't PC gamer anymore.

Not anymore, only few new PC games have demo since many don't, especially GTA IV is one of them.
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