purplecatty

I am planning on buying different brand "N" Wireless Router, I want the one that "shut up and run!" router. Basically, I'm looking for router that can handle heavy bandwidth usage because two of my kids use online game on both PC and I use VP whenever I wish to use. Belkin N Router crashes over heavy bandwidth load..

I wish I could experiment different brands of routers but don't have $$ or anyone who owns it (betcha they don't want me mess with their router anyway).

I know there are Gamer router, MIMO Router and regular "N" router. Questions is that which router can handle heavy VP Video/Data bandwidth well without crashing or locking up.. Although there are list of recommend routers on the list for VP such as Sorenson, Z340, Purple, Viable and other VP. There are some issue with few recommend router such as firmware and setups even though it works. I just want "N" router that is compatible with ALL VP!! so I won't have to worry about hassle to tweak, fix or buy different router again.

If you are an VP installer and experience with different router, which "N" Wireless router doesn't have any problem with different VP brands. You can tell me which is the best.. Also don't want the one that runs hot under the load. Hot router can crash easily. I didn't care if setup is easy or complicated, I'm good with it.

List of "N" Wireless router brands (I don't care if it's Gamer, MIMO, or just plain ol' one).. Belkin is out of my list..

D-Link
Linksys
Netgear
Buffalo
ActionTec
Trendnet
Cisco
and some odd brands that are not on the lists

Please submit suggestions and explainations.

I would pick out which would be the best

Thanks

Catty

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Dismal Shadow

I would recommend D-Link, Back in the days there were issues with Linksys which is under Cisco. Netgear is out of my list since it had issues with purplemail on my MVP after it was port forwarded.

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Foxrac

D-Link, of course.

When after I get own modem then I'm going kick Linksys out and replace into D-Link.

Videophone does work with Linksys but require alot of configuration.

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diehardbiker

Dlink, man!

I have Dlink DIR-655 it starts up and runs like charm, however it still drops off from time to time. Tell you this, it is not as bad as other router I had dealt with. Forget DIR-615, it is not worth the investment. I am not sure about DIR 628 or DI-625 however, from my understand of your situation, if you can afford, it would be DIR-828 or something like that.

Please remember, anytime you add a wireless host to single access point of any kind, the speed WILL decrease.

Also, other thing about Dlink that I like very much is when you want to log in Dlink router, you have the option to use GUI verification code, which means that the machine can not spoof because of this. That is additional layer of security.

I am still stand on this, wireless is NOT 100% secured no matter how hard you try. What you can do is be viligant and set up as many security point on wireless, like MAC filter, do not broadcast SSID, etc.

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The Highlander

Newegg.com - D-Link DGL-4500 IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11a/b/g, IEEE802.11n Draft Xtreme N Gaming Router - Wireless Routers

This is work great for VP. I know few of people own exactly one like that and work great with gamer and VP. They don't complained about drop or slow down since. Cheap router is not great for gamer.

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purplecatty

Yup, It's typical when adding host, it slows down. My router is chock full of ethernet wires plugged in and plus wireless to my laptop. I recalled all 3 ports hooked up to 3 PC, two in basement and one in garage and garage pc was downloading update and two pc my sons were playing online games on it PLUS I was using laptop wireless browsing net. I did noticed the performance dropped greatly. After a while, Belkin router crashed

Thanks for info about DIR-655, I was looking at it the first thing cuz I want the "mean and strong" one. So sound like a D-Link "N" Wireless Gaming router is for me.

Thanks!!

Catty

purplecatty

$149.99 I like that router.. but... $$$ I'll check through Ebay anyway.

I am fully aware that cheap router are not for gamer. My sons playing online games on two PC at the same time bears down hard on Belkin N router. I had to reboot everytime. Belkin N wireless router I bought was $80 last year. That's why it's cheap. It's time for me to get better and meaner stronger N wireless router cuz soon my sons would play better online game that demand lot of bandwidth ect enough to murder cheap router..

Catty

Royale

I have used D-Link wireless "N" router for my home network plus VP and it has worked so great.

purplecatty

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JClarke

D-link, which I agree with the others, I have one powerful and badass one in the garage but how about Apple Airport extreme, I have that at home and it can handle anything -- it works like a charm too, while I on VP, my brother gaming on the PC, dad raoming on wireless via mac laptop... me playing PS3 online -- still works great.

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DO NOT GET NETGEAR!!!!
Wish someone would have told me before I bought mine a year ago. I've also had several Linksys as well but they can't handle the load either. D-Link will be the next purchase for me.

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JClarke

netgear as it is today has improved. I have a 3G mobile broadband wireless router and it works lilke a charm

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Dismal Shadow

This router is what I have now.

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I have a linksys Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless-N Router that handles VP200, Xbox 360, two PCs, and Iphone. It didn't decrease the speed and no lag while playing video games. it's not hard to config the router. All you do is set up 125 on DMZ and enable.

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purplecatty

I won Dlink Extreme N Router DIR-655 for $82 with free sh/h! I had to snipe less than a minute .. Paid for it and now waiting for seller to ship it to me. It's a new router tho..

Now looking foward to new router to be shipped and hook it up once I receive it.

Now that I can kiss my Belkin router good bye!!!

I didn't realized that DIR-655 does have USB port that I can plug in USB printer or USB storage and access it through home networking. So that I don't have to leave my system running 24/7 as a printer server. Nice addition!!

Now I joined D-Link bandwagon!

PS: Thankyou everyone for suggestion, D-link way to go!!

My friend who had similiar Belkin N router and she ordered Dlink DIR-625 through Newegg.com. She is looking foward to get rid of Belkin too. Had same issue like I have and need it for her Z340 wirelessly too. She doesn't use broadband as much as I do. She aske me to go over to her place and set it up and her husband is getting impatient and he can't wait to use VP again


Catty

The Highlander

Why you bought the Belki N router in first place without read the review?

Keep in mind DIR-655 is not design for gamer like FPS and RPG.

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diehardbiker

Just FYI, there is a catch with this nice additional feature, USB.... You can use this with anything that needs USB connection, with some device, only one computer can access at a time, and need to be logged off before other computer can access. That applies to USB storage device. For printer, it won't be a problem sharing with other computers. I have that, and not using it anyway. I ended up bought a NAS, and throw in two HD and set RAID 1 so that I won't worry about losing data. RAID 1 requires two hard drives, they both have same files (Mirrored) on it meaning if one fails, other will still have files for me to retrieve.

DHB

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The Highlander

DIY server is way better than NAS (home user) for speed, more feature, FTP, desktop remote,etc..

RAID 1 is very old technology. NAS is poor file transfer speed for the large files.

NAS is big joke!

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purplecatty

I bought the belkin router last year March and was in a hurry to replace the old one that went dead. That time, "N" was new after Pre-N.. I tried to find review and it wasn't much. It just came out when I bought it. My neighbor have Belkin Pre-N router and I kinda ante it up to N. Also last year my sons wasn't even in deep with online game till this year.

I am fully aware that it's not design for gamer, It just that I want it handle heavy bandwidth usage. My kids are playing Online Lego game, Pirates of the Carribean, Wizard 101, Runescape and several more.

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purplecatty

Cool.. I just want to plug in multi-function printer and forget it so that my wife and family can use it anytime without holler me to get dedicated system up and running for printer.

Catty

diehardbiker

Guess you don't understand.

I don't want powerful whatever, and this is not corporate system anyway.

Even though it may be old, however I need something to back up, not frequently using it. This need not to be powerful. For average users like home user, really don't need huge bell and whistle.

The backup takes less than 30 minutes, why would I need faster back up if I sleep longer than 30 minutes?

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"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
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diehardbiker

That would work well, and yes I agreed with using printer anytime without booting up dedicated printer server.

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"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
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purplecatty

Just today, I went over to my friend's place and set up their brand new Dlink DIR-625 and I was struggling to get the vp and wireless laptop to work with new router. It had "Dlink" security that blocks MAC address on laptop and VP200 and Z340 (both vp won't list contact and couldn't connect to broadband). I went through the Dlink's setup and figure out how to disable that darn "Dlink" security cuz the laptop's browser popped Dlink's security and must log in to use it. Then I came across the "Security" on the list and click it. I found out it was checkmarked and I unchecked it and also for Firewall, I unchecked it. Finally, the VP popped { "911" window with home address correct? y/n} listed the Contacts and Laptop able to get through website!!

I added password for Administrator login for Dlink's Web setup so no one will "own up" new Dlink..

I already set DMZ to 192.168.0.125 (originally was 0.0.0.0 before I changed it) and checkmarked. I already fixed VP200's network setting to match DMZ address. I tried to add Virtual Server for Sorenson VP200 but it turn out it's not the same what I did on Belkin router. I decide not to bother it for now.

I called my home from my friend's VP200 and my kid answered and the main video was black but the self-view just froze. But when I use Z340 that my friend just bought and It did same thing but self-view did not freeze. I am not sure that my home's Belkin router is screwed and crashed cuz my kids been using pc all morning while I was at work. I wasn't sure which are the blame?? My crappy Belkin router or my friend's new Dlink? So I went home cuz my friend had to go to Church activities.


What is the Dlink setup for the VP200, Do I have to use Virtual Server, Port Fowarding ect for VP200?

I added WEP key for wireless so my friend can have secured connection to their laptop.

Betcha new Dlink have lot more settings and options than the old Dlink Extreme G wireless router which I have spare. That's my new learning curve and I bet I know what to do with new router, DIR-655 when it arrives from shipment.

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purplecatty

I checked out the Dlink homepage and checked out DIR-655 N Wireless router information and it's hardware configuration (just to look through deeper) and checked out firmwares. I noticed they had the most recent firmware update came out this month. I will check my new router's firmware once it arrived.

I played with its Emulator (DIR-655 setup screen) and the only thing difference from what I worked on my friend's DIR-625 is USB setup. DIR-655 have USB setup on the left column list while DIR-625 don't, it's in different location.

I read reviews last night which was couple year old, I read that originally, DIR-655 topped the chart among Draft-N Wireless routers and CNET Editor was reluctant to recommend this cuz of Firmware is not ready. It was reviewed back in April 2007. Originally, the USB wasn't ready for printer and storage hookup back then cuz of firmware and Dlink said they don't know if they will have USB put in use or not. Now, USB are in use and Firmware is stable. I looked through Dlink's DIR-655 firmware history, I can see why they have been working on it.

To remind any owner of DIR-655, firmware is NOT downgradeable per warning from Dlink. So we will have to be careful to be sure if that is really necessary to be update or be screwed if you don't like it .

The seller told me today that she mailed me the router and I should expect it to arrive in few days. I asked previously her if it have everything in the box. She said yes, it is everything, She just opened and look at it but haven't hook things up so it's technically new. She bought it from Best Buy months ago and it was past due to refund it from Best Buy so that's why she sold the new router to me. Bet I saved myself $45 on DIR-655 rather than buying it directly from the local computer store. She said if it's defective, she will be happy to accept return and refund it to me because she have store receipt and Dlink warranty (1 year).

As for router's USB port, Have anyone use USB Flashdrive plugged in for storage purpose... Just out of curiously ???

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diehardbiker

That is right, can't downgrade the firmware once you past the specific firmware version. I forgot what it is. The reason behind this is because of Securspot which is additional feature provided by Dlink, that feature is a fee based, which isnt free. RME! I wouldn't recommend that due to VP, which would cause more problems than money's worth.

I don't know how many times I have explain that it is NOT possible to do DMZ and Port forwarding or virtual server at same time, You have to pick one, not both. DMZ can apply only to single machine, nothing else, while Port Forwarding or Virtual server can assign to multiple machines as long as the port isn't match to two or more machines. In other word, it is far better not use DMZ if have multiple VP installed. Please study more on NAT (Network Allocation Translation), the answer is right there.

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"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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The Highlander

NAS is not just for backup only for home user. There is more than that.

Media center is very popular for digital world. In fact real-time data is better than back-up.

I knew few people who lost the data and they are too late to backup or forget backup. Backup is full of bullshit.

Sometime RAID 1 can failed for both the hard drives. That's why small business dont use RAID 1 anymore. They like RAID 5 or up over crap RAID 1. My father is very lucky that he have three hard drives and one hard drive went failed then he order for the new hard drive.. few days later another hard drive went failed. He still have 3rd hard drive left. They are 10 years old. Image he lost two hard drives in few days. No matter how you take care of RAID 1 and you still lost them period!

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purplecatty

The Securespot can be disabled through Security option. It's just the option to use Securespot or not. I wouldn't use Securespot anyway cuz same thing cause problems with networking and vp. That'll be good for College students living in dorm or Small Business. Or Parents use it to micromanage their rebellious children from using PC or laptop

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justlook

i wonder which modem works good with dlink-655 or 625 router. i have version dsl i'm sure westell modem/router works fine, right?

purplecatty

DIR-655 or DIR-625 should work with any DSL and Cable modems. Current Dlink routers already have lists of provider in its settings for you to select for broadband type otherwise you can manually configure it.

Humm. It should work because it's kinda like 'daisy chained' from router to router. In fact is that if one router connected to another router which is wireless, the 2nd router should be configured that it's a Dynamic (first router output ethernet connect to 2nd router's WAN port) because first router which built inside the modem is pre-set as DSL configuration with login sn and password. Unless if there are way to disable built in router and use 2nd router configured for DSL. I personally do not have DSL, I have Road Runner so that's why I never had any issue with it.

Unless our blogger have their says from their experience.

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coolguy1973fla

I have been used with Linksys WRT300N but I will buy Linksys Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless Router WRT400N

I have old Linksys WRT300N but WRT300N's wifi is crashed down often I was gave up of it. I set to use HOVRS' Dlink 625 Wireless N router for now
I was set up on DMZ and 192.168.1.125 and I remove VP200's setting "Obtain an IP address automatically (DHCP)" -- I setted up my old Linksys WRT300N and I set up to DMZ for I put VP200's MAC address in DMZ MAC address information page and I was setting on VP200's network -- SETTINGS - ADDRESS - I was checked enable " Obtain an IP address automatically (DHCP)" then set it! it is works!

if you have old Linksys G router use DMZ last with 192.168.1.125 and your the VP200 settings: disable "obtain an IP address automatically (DHCP)" and fill out the match IP address

MAC = MEDIA ACCESS CONTROL
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