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I had noticed that few member like Steel said alot of PS3 to left at store, such as Target and EBgames because of poor sale and expensive. I have strongly disagree with Steel and other few members, also agree with one member. Only reason that most people are prefer to buy at electronic store, such as Circuit City, Best Buy, Fry's and other stores for offers more than store department like Target and Wal-Mart but some employees at Wal-Mart got PS3 with discount card. Sales of Ps3 are great since Sony shipped more PS3 every week and their goal will be 6 million by March 2007.

If I was you as non-employee at Wal-Mart then would order PS3 at Best Buy then if employee at Wal-Mart and order at Wal-Mart with discount card, that good deal for us.

Some members like Steel need get over it about PS3 since Xbox 360 is more expensive due add-on including HD-DVD, adapter network, VGA cable for need watch HD movies or play games in 1080p and few thing. How would compare to PS3 fo $600 with HDMI, BD, cell processor, 60GB, WiFi built-in and other feature, that cheaper than Xbox 360.
 
The Cell processor is 2x harder for programmers to work with.

You have to buy component cables separately.

Their online service & community SUCKS compared to Microsoft's Live service.

Blu-Ray isn't any better than HD-DVD in my opinion.

All of the PS3 games aren't what I'm interested in AND all of their "exclusive" titles WILL come to the X360.

And did I say the Live service owns all?

Have fun watching your PS3 collect dust in the next year.
 
The Cell processor is 2x harder for programmers to work with.
Not all of them, look at computer games.

You have to buy component cables separately.
No thanks, I rather to use HDMI.

Their online service & community SUCKS compared to Microsoft's Live service.
That's your opinion but you don't own PS3 though.

Blu-Ray isn't any better than HD-DVD in my opinion.
You think so then you don't own BD player or PS3.

All of the PS3 games aren't what I'm interested in AND all of their "exclusive" titles WILL come to the X360.
Not true, Virtual Fighter 5 will be on PS3 exclusive for 6 month, DMC4 and MGS4 would never happen to port on 360 though since rumors are joke, also PS3 games will be more exclusive to PS3 in late 2007 and 2008.

And did I say the Live service owns all?
That's your opinion, also you don't own PS3 too.

Have fun watching your PS3 collect dust in the next year.
Thanks

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Blu-Ray isn't any better than HD-DVD in my opinion.

An uneducated opinion from what I can see.

You obviously haven't done your homework on the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray formats. But of course, what did I expect from a Xbox fanboy? (Well, you've made it pretty clear that you are one, only God know what I think of fanboys of any consoles/formats) Funnily enough, you're obviously not aware of why Microsoft is 'backing' the HD-DVD format. Just because they are 'backing' a format doesn't mean they are supporting it.

Microsoft isn't really supporting HD-DVD. It's hoping to cause both formats to fail so they can go ahead with their plans to deliver 'downloadable movies' in the future. I can see a big problem with 'downloadable' movies especially when it come to the DRM and captioning issues as they are currently unavailable on both iTunes and Xbox Live at the moment.

Sure, it may be just speculation... but I do have my reasons to believe this is the direction Microsoft is hoping to head for. In fact, Microsoft even said if the HD-DVD format fails; they may consider selling a Blu-Ray add-on for Xbox 360. So obviously, they aren't exactly being honest with their customers and they are sabotaging the HD-DVD format by "leading" their support only to kill it. They knew that the Blu-Ray format would be in the lead, so they decided to support an inferior format in order to kill both formats.

Whether you want to hear this or not, the HD-DVD format is already headed for a very bumpy ride according to some recent statistics. Especially when it has only one major player right now which is Toshiba. It's likely that HD-DVD will only be able to survive as a data format, not a video format within a few years. I doubt it will vanish, there will be uses for it. Only it won't be for movies, it will have different purposes in different industries. Myself, I think Microsoft's plan is backfiring right into its face.

One of the major concerns about the HD-DVD format is the lack of hard-coating technology. Quite important if you ask me, it protect the discs from getting scratched. It may had not been such a big deal for the CD/DVD format but it is now for the future formats because they cramp far more data. 15GB per layer in a HD-DVD, just imagine how much data can get lost from a small scratch in comparison to a scratch on a DVD disc. A lot, I can tell you that for sure. Optical disc formats need to be better protected and this is a feature many video rental stores will embrace as their customers are notorious for doing a great deal of damage to their DVDs.

People need to do some research before making such a bold statement. Otherwise, you're just talking out of your ass.

I can say that I did my homework because I did. I didn't just suddenly 'support' either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. In fact, I did believe that HD-DVD was the better format when it was first unveiled. Now that has changed as I researched more on the two HD formats.

Education is the key to making the right choice. It always is.
 
Xbox360 dudes still talking shat on PS3. That gotta be another rvial like Yankees and Red Sox or Cowboys and Redskins. Even Pepsi and Coca~Cola. :giggle:

At least, I didn't concerning over which better one of video systems by everyone here. Why, I am just another video gamer that loves to play everything from arcade to video system. :cool:

We knows there will having better video system than Xbox360 , Wii , and PS3 in year of 2015. Hologram game system?! :eek3:
 
Is this right? I'm hearing that Sony isn't allowing porn on BR. Could be a bad move.

I'm loving my 360 way too much to even think about a PS3.

How do you pack composite cables with a HD gaming system? That's a slap to the face, or a 'teabagging'. Don't ask me what 'Teabag' means, look it up.

I ask one question to anyone willing to answer. Does Sony have an answer to Halo 3?
 
Microsoft isn't really supporting HD-DVD. It's hoping to cause both formats to fail so they can go ahead with their plans to deliver 'downloadable movies' in the future. I can see a big problem with 'downloadable' movies especially when it come to the DRM and captioning issues as they are currently unavailable on both iTunes and Xbox Live at the moment.

Education is the key to making the right choice. It always is.

Ha, paranoid much? The subtitles/CC are on the way for the MP movies.

And you can't honestly tell me your naked eye can tell the difference between HD-DVD & Blu Ray.

Hack247.co.uk » Blog Archive » HD-DVD Vs Blu Ray - A Comparison

I'm just a casual movie goer and the same goes for your average person. However, I take my videogames seriously and I can tell you that the X360 owns the PS3 in this department :)

The porn industry picked the HD-DVD and it's almost a death spell for Blu Ray. But do I care? LOL, no, because they don't make videogames.

Don't call me a fanboi since I owned every console there were after the Atari 2600 except for the Neo-Geo, Saturn & 3DO (which sounds a lot like the PS3 in both price range & ease of development) and I'm sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the games themselves.

Enjoy using your PS3 as a stand alone movie player.
 
Is this right? I'm hearing that Sony isn't allowing porn on BR. Could be a bad move.
Wow, other ignorant post, also BD isn't OWNED by Sony and it's owned by Blu-ray Association and ask Sjones since BD already got approved for allow porn companies to film on BD.

I'm loving my 360 way too much to even think about a PS3.
Good for you.

How do you pack composite cables with a HD gaming system? That's a slap to the face, or a 'teabagging'. Don't ask me what 'Teabag' means, look it up.
That's your problem then buy HDMI for $30 at Wal-Mart and that simple for you.

I ask one question to anyone willing to answer. Does Sony have an answer to Halo 3?
I dunno since Halo 3 isn't published by Sony since they don't care.

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Ha, paranoid much? The subtitles/CC are on the way for the MP movies.

And you can't honestly tell me your naked eye can tell the difference between HD-DVD & Blu Ray.
You don't own PS3 or BD player then don't compare until you own it.

Hack247.co.uk » Blog Archive » HD-DVD Vs Blu Ray - A Comparison

I'm just a casual movie goer and the same goes for your average person. However, I take my videogames seriously and I can tell you that the X360 owns the PS3 in this department :)
Nah, PS3 owns 360 at overall and Banjo does know more than you do.

The porn industry picked the HD-DVD and it's almost a death spell for Blu Ray. But do I care? LOL, no, because they don't make videogames.
That's old news and wait for Sjones to get answer since got approved for allow for porn companies to film on BD.

Don't call me a fanboi since I owned every console there were after the Atari 2600 except for the Neo-Geo, Saturn & 3DO (which sounds a lot like the PS3 in both price range & ease of development) and I'm sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the games themselves.
You hate PS3, that right then you are still fanboy.

Enjoy using your PS3 as a stand alone movie player.

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Is this right? I'm hearing that Sony isn't allowing porn on BR. Could be a bad move.

Actually, it's a misconception. Remember, Blu-Ray isn't owned by Sony. The BDA (Blu-Ray Disc Association) own the format. Some of the major Blu-Ray replicators are refusing to print pornographic materials onto the Blu-Ray format in their factories. Therefore, they have to shop some other factories or buy their own. It's already confirmed that 'Debbie Does Dallas Again' is on the way to the format. I had to look this up a few weeks ago because of all the buzz.
 
Then it'd cost more for the porn distributors to print BD copies.

BTW, A/V fanatics thinks the VC-1 video codec in the HD-DVD is superior to BD's MPEG-2 video codec. The only advantage BD has over HD-DVDs are disc capacity and studios behind it. IF the HD-DVD happens to stay ahead of BD in installed base, you can bet everybody but Sony will start distributing their movies on the HD-DVD. Capitalism FTW *shrugs*.
 
Ha, paranoid much? The subtitles/CC are on the way for the MP movies.

Um, paranoid?

No, I just know what Microsoft is up to. So do a lot of other people. Microsoft isn't exactly a trustworthy company, they've been known to mislead their customers on several occasions. Sony has such a reputation too, but they are clearly pushing for the Blu-Ray format as they've invested in it. If you would just look up the information on Microsoft and its support for the HD-DVD format. You will notice that they aren't exactly crazy about it, they have made it clear that they intend to deliver online contents (movies, music, etc like Apple's iTunes). So therefore, they support the inferior format in order to overthrow Blu-Ray and sink both formats. They knew that Blu-Ray would get a boost because of PS3, this is why they came out with a HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360.

Apple is more likely to be the first one to deliver CC/Subtitles since they are enabling the use of CC in Quicktime in the upcoming OS X upgrade this year. Right now, no movie rental/sale stores on the internet offer subtitles/captions with their movie downloads including Xbox Live and Apple's iTunes Store.

If Microsoft is planning on bringing CC/Subtitles to Xbox Live, can you at least provide an URL leading to an official confirmation of such a thing?

I'll like to see it.

And you can't honestly tell me your naked eye can tell the difference between HD-DVD & Blu Ray.

Well, that obviously wasn't a question. You just decided to put the words into my mouth which is inappropriate. All I did was tell you the facts of what both formats are capable of. What HD-DVD can do, Blu-Ray can.

What you don't realize is the fact that Blu-Ray is capable of using uncompressed soundtracks. This is something HD-DVD has a hard time with as they already have to watch the video bit-rate for the video due to the lower rate. HD-DVD use 'lossless' compression but it's only lossless in theory, it's still compressed. The reason why many studios has resorted to using the VC-1 compression is because of its low bit-rate, though it has been noted that VC-1 has a tendency to soften the picture quality which isn't a good thing. VC-1 has been used on both formats with some titles, mostly by Warner Bros.

The higher the bit-rate, the easier it is to push the quality to a higher level. Blu-Ray movies are already on par or above HD-DVD in terms of video quality especially as they are getting the hang of some new codecs such as AVC. I've watched a few recent Blu-Ray movies and they definitely are getting better. 'Crank' and 'Open Season' are two good examples. Just to show you what they can achieve over a period of time in making proper HD masters.

The reason why HD-DVD is a troubled format when it come to movies is due to the fact that Toshiba is the only big player in the game. Who else is backing it? Sanyo is hardly a major player, they sell bargain players. Blu-Ray has Sony, Mitsubishi, Samsung, Hitachi, LG, Sharp, Pioneer and more. All of these supporters are bringing out Blu-Ray players.

HD-DVD may survive on as a data format, but not a video format.


That's from a month ago and the information is even somewhere outdated. It has been confirmed by Neilsen/VideoScan Data that Blu-Ray softwares (movies) are outselling the HD-DVD by 2 to 1. Before PS3 came out, HD-DVD was outselling Blu-Ray by 3 to 1. Now it's changing at a rapid rate. Quite a big difference in just 2 months. It's quite remarkable, I have to say.

I'm just a casual movie goer and the same goes for your average person. However, I take my videogames seriously and I can tell you that the X360 owns the PS3 in this department :)

Apparently you aren't aware of my reputation here when it come to movies. I couldn't give a hoot about which console offer better games. I do occasionally play games, but I'm not just that into them. To me, it's time-consuming and I have a life. I prefer to play the top-notch titles, always has been like that.

The porn industry picked the HD-DVD and it's almost a death spell for Blu Ray. But do I care? LOL, no, because they don't make videogames.

A misconception, already mentioned it in my previous posting.

Don't call me a fanboi since I owned every console there were after the Atari 2600 except for the Neo-Geo, Saturn & 3DO (which sounds a lot like the PS3 in both price range & ease of development) and I'm sure I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the games themselves.

Guess what? I have an Atari 2600 too. Even though I don't play tons of games, I do regularly read the latest news and buzz on video games as I always keep an eye out for AAA quality games. I would advise you to reserve your judgment before you declare that PS3 is a piece of crap. Guess what? I didn't buy PS2 despite its success due to the fact that it had a lower-class DVD drive when it first came out. I also recall that developers had a lot of difficulties developing the first few waves of PS2 titles just like the PS3 developers are experiencing right now. You see, it's a new type of processor. A powerful processor from what I read, it takes time for the developers to learn the basics and tricks.

Now that you mentioned the pricing. I'll have to remind you that Xbox 360 isn't exactly cheap either. People nearly soiled their pants when the prices for two different packages were revealed. Now PS3 is an extra $100, however the real bargain is that it come with a Blu-Ray drive.

Easily worth the price. Not only to mention the nosedive in the prices of standalone Blu-Ray players that's coming later this year due to more supporters coming on board including major optical disc manufacturers.

Enjoy using your PS3 as a stand alone movie player.

I am perfectly satisfied with it, I don't see why you had to get so emotional and started spewing out all sort of misinformation about the HD formats. It's obvious you didn't do your homework.

I'm sorry, but I think you've made it quite clear that you're a Xbox fanboy. You resorted to insults, spewing out misinformation and getting personal is crossing the line of being a fanboy. It's not a pissing contest, so get a grip. Being a fanboy is the worst thing you can be. Just because you owned every console doesn't mean you can't be a fanboy.

I'm just here to point out the facts and base my opinions on my knowledge of MS, Sony and other corporations and their history.

To repeat, Blu-Ray is not owned by Sony. It's owned by BDA (Blu-Ray Disc Association). So stop assuming that it is because there's not a shred of truth to it. MS/Toshiba don't own HD-DVD either, they're just a part of the DVD Forum.
 
BTW, A/V fanatics thinks the VC-1 video codec in the HD-DVD is superior to BD's MPEG-2 video codec.

The only advantage BD has over HD-DVDs are disc capacity and studios behind it. IF the HD-DVD happens to stay ahead of BD in installed base, you can bet everybody but Sony will start distributing their movies on the HD-DVD. Capitalism FTW *shrugs*.

IF the HD-DVD happens to stay ahead of BD in installed base

Um... stay ahead? Apparently you are more behind than I thought. There's already far more Blu-Ray players in installed base as of today.

Like I said, please do your homework.

Blu-Ray use more than one codec. Blu-Ray players currently are capable of playing MPEG-2, AVC, VC-1-encoded movies. VC-1 was proposed by Microsoft. These "A/V Fanatics" you mentioned are HD-DVD fanboys. Not only that, VC-1 isn't HD-DVD only, it's available on both formats.

See? I already knew.
 
Wow. Did I strike a sore nerve! I certainly am not a X-Box fanboy since I owned both the PS and the PS2. I would own the PS3 if only it weren't a BluRay player with videogames shoved to the side. If there is a fanboy in this thread, it is you and Pacman. I've never seen a format fan this animated in a long time :)

Even after all that factual smackdown you so furiously typed down, it's still not any better to the naked eye on a sub 50" HDTV. In a couple of years, it may be different. That may not be a technically educated opinion but it is just common sense and I am in touch with reality. I still enjoy regular DVD movies the same ever since they came out in 1997. I gather you think you can tell the difference yourself but I feel it's just your subconscious knowledge of the specifications. You even brought up the audio quality! Bad form, my fellow hearing impaired friend. Do you have perfect hearing? If not, a hearing aid nor a cochlear implant will never help you tell the difference between a HD-DVD and the BD.

Even funnier, you asked me if I knew your reputation. No, I don't, I don't care and I am not impressed. Sorry.

And what personal insult did I throw your way? If you were offended by anything outside of this very post, then grow a skin! If I wanted to insult you, I would have said something like this in your direction, "You throw a sassifer fit than Rosie O'Donnel on periods.", and, "I'll whip Mr. Banjo out when a middle-school girl wants to argue with me.". But I didn't, did I?

Finally, the PS3 right now doesn't offer real gamers what they want. It can't even run Gears Of War if it tried according to Cliffy B. It is indeed a powerful system but it is crucially flawed.

Oh yeah, about subtitles/CC on the Marketplace movies -- after much prodding from me and several other people on the X-Box forums, they said it were on their priority list. When will it happen? I don't know but it is coming someday. Am I in a hurry? No, I'm still happy with my DVD with 10 year old technology.

No hard feelings.
 
I see see some PS3s still in stock at target a couple days ago lol

yet no Wiis in stock at all.
 
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