JoeyDeafNinja

I want to buy cheap PC that can run games well, for example, Battlefield 3. For under $350. If it is not possible to get it then maybe build own computer will do well! I do keep looking at many sites viz google but it is hard. I thought some of you here might know something.

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Foxrac

I'm scared that you probably couldn't find it for cheaper, unless you double the limit to $600-$700.

The price is depending on performance and if you buy cheaper one, will be outdated so quickly.

My custom built PC is around $1,000 that I paid last year.

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JoeyDeafNinja

Well, Starting this month, I will draw about $50 from my bank to paypal for saving for each month. I might should get raise this month. If I do, I might will raise to 75-100 depends on how much I collect. I want to save for 6 months at least. I want to look up early so I can get ready to buy and get it done. If I buy cheap and powerful PC then I might save some left and add more later for new upgrade or whatever.

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Strength and thrown off reason and reality
Cut myself and screamed for their insanity
Wake up to this nightmare that will never end
Main attraction of this twisted master plan
I will be your deadman
With nothing but this blood on my hands
Stuck in your wonderland
I wanna make you bleed just like me
So make me your deadman
With only poisoning in my veins
Stuck in your wonderland
Stagnated by the passivity
I'm gonna make you bleed like me

JoeyDeafNinja

I want to build my own PC. I found this video. What is rebate by the way? Do you have any better info, please comment!

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Strength and thrown off reason and reality
Cut myself and screamed for their insanity
Wake up to this nightmare that will never end
Main attraction of this twisted master plan
I will be your deadman
With nothing but this blood on my hands
Stuck in your wonderland
I wanna make you bleed just like me
So make me your deadman
With only poisoning in my veins
Stuck in your wonderland
Stagnated by the passivity
I'm gonna make you bleed like me

Foxrac

Ok, it took year for me to save up for PC/Mac, including built on my own.

First, you need look for good case with enough room to upgrade, the cheaper cases on newegg are easy to broken and worst case, you cannot return if you break it, even virtually, it isn't your fault because it isn't durable.

For example - Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior

That's good case.

Other one isn't good - Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 311 RC-311B-SWN1 Silver Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

It will break so easy if you do something is wrong and you could get cut like I did last year.

The case that I bought last year is excellent.
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

You can check around newegg - Newegg.com - Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, HDTVs, Digital Cameras and More!

It is important to read some reviews that considered as critical, contain both of pros and cons.

That all you need to list.
1) CPU
2) Motherboard
3) Case
4) RAM
5) HDD/SSD
6) Video card
7) PSU (Power Supply Unit)
8) Monitor
9) Optical Drive (You may not need if you know how to install Windows from USB and download all games digitally)
10) CPU Fan (The stock fan maybe ok but recommended to get better CPU fan for max cooling performance)
11) Network card (The network built in some motherboards are okay but some of them are bad so you need dedicated network card)
12) Thermal paste (Most CPU already have thermal paste as prepackaged but I prefer to apply thermal paste for better cooling performance)

First time to build the PC can be frustrated and you will be successful if you follow instruction manual to build the PC or ask your friend for help.

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Foxrac

Rebate - it means you have to pay in full, especially from online store and wait until you receive an item then fill the rebate and send in the mail. You will wait for weeks to get money back.

Some online stores offer instant rebate - it means will apply to discount before you buy it.

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JMH

$350 PC to run Battlefield 3? Good luck.

Or you can save up $ to buy this PC - Turbo FX-6000 eXtreme Gamer which is good enough to run some games, but you may have to lower some graphic setting to run Battlefield 3.

Main Performance PC owner is one of my iRacing friend, just fyi.

The Highlander

$350? Never happen. It's cost around $600 without Windows 7 if you want powerful gaming PC.

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Last March, I spend almost $1,600 to built my own custom PC. I like high-end gaming PC over budget gaming PC.

I joined L4D2's lobby room as mulitplayer online. I noticed I was first fast load. They were slow load as They used budget gaming PC.

I will add 540GB SSD for fastest load games. My current 64GB SSD for fast boot up.

HDD 5400 RPM = slower load
HDD 7200 RPM = good fast load
SSD = best fast load

Also, I heard a rumor about Steam games don't recommend Windows 8 OS.

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Foxrac

Why Valve doesn't recommended Windows 8?

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JMH

Well, actually, Valve Company (Steam's parent Company) said that "Windows 8 Is A Catastrophe" - see this link: Windows 8 Is A 'Catastrophe' According To Gabe Newell - Valve Hedging With Steam On Linux - Forbes

The Highlander

Because Linux is faster than Windows for Valve.

Valve: Source Engine Runs Faster on Linux vs Windows - News - Valve Software - FPS General

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The Highlander

I heard about that. Image he used working M$ for 13 years.

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Image?

Foxrac

He means imagine.

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JMH

In this article, they compared it based on how many FPS they get. Really, 270 FPS vs 315 FPS mean nothing in gaming. Games that run at 60 FPS is considered great - no lagging, etc... Anything beyond 150 FPS is "overkill" and it's no difference what you see at 60 FPS.

I'm aware of Windows 7's capped CPU usage. That's one thing that hold back several games that used CPU heavily than video card (i.e. iRacing software and few other games, I cannot remember). I'm not sure if Windows 8 will do same thing.

Foxrac

and introduction of Directx caused more game developers to sticking with PC instead of port to multi-OS, especially Linux, Mac OS X and other UNIX OS.

Mac, Linux, PS3 and Wii use OpenGL.

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JMH

Yeah, that's Microsoft's monopoly system.

The Highlander

You missed that point. Let think about future like 2-5 years later, GPU will outdated then Windows probably run around 20 FPS during Linux running around 65 FPS for newer game from the future.

270 FPS vs 315 FPS is 45 FPS different. It is big deal to me.

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MushyCookies

There are always Craiglist, The customs usually runs up to 500 and is usually virus ridden.. There are no such thing as a good quality pc that goes for that cheap unless it has some issues... Pc world arent so cheap these days.

Mine cost me 1.5 k Custom made. But it will need upgrades every now and then. So i don't really know what to say. Make some good friends in the computer business and maybe you 'll get lucky?

VacationGuy234

The new PC's will run games well due to the fact that there is now less limitation on RAM as systems are now 64bit. However, not pre-made systems supports more memory chips and this needs to be kept in mind.

To build your own computer you need to understand what you want to get out of it. If you are going to run dual video cards and other game enhancing devices, you have to get the correct power supply for the system, the case must have good air flow with fan, etc This is one of the problems with pre-made systems, you can't upgrade certain parts of the box without updating the power supply and having good air flow because the setup is not made for it.

If you want to see cutting edge graphics and game play, there is no way you can do it for under $350 unless you get a used gaming box that is 99% there.

You really can't build computers on the cheap today because big companies have economy of scale on their side. Years ago, an electronics guy could build stuff really cheap, but it is not true today.

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Grummer

why not try get to know some gamers from your area, some dudes willbe cool enough to share you their spare PC(in the LANS or if they got a spare for sale or not need they might sell it to you) and often it wont be half bad, maybe 2-3 years old...but will still run a BF3 easy, and say...if you knew what you're doing, just check the PSU brand, not not so much the specs, anything over 500Watts is sweet i cud careless for 750-1000w unless you really gonna do dual SLI's crosffires and multi HDDs, (multi like 4-5 PLUS drives) build a good cheap gamer, JUST for gaming, best plan on only 2 drives, a Fast one, and a storage one for apps, drivers, but dont use it for you tubes, and shit you'd slow it right down, and end up trashing the pc...

also check the vid card...if its a REAl cheap shit, stay on it for a while till tou can afford not the BEST, but something quite bit better, look for pipes, clock who **** cares about Rams, Most are good, 2Gb rams, with slower , less piped gpu is total bullshit but read reviews. decide early on what 'level you want' max out , nah, you be spending $$$$$, not fast mid-level details will be sweet...unless your genre in gaming is all about eye candy, well good luck...(know what foxrac etc are saying...) but each and every gamers 9seasoned ones in particular have diff view, so best and latest is just for those needing big e-cocks...lol forget it


also last thing
if you did get a good 'deal' from local gamers, try suss them in a club, or those regulars at the cybersheds...LANs...better yet, try stick around with those actually organises (or helps organising LANS) they are pretty trust worthy dudes , chances are they are working as techs in day time too...

also last thing
if you spot a good 'was the best' but wel looked after, and not modded mobos, from those descirbed dudes as above,...and see a so and so RAMs...you can aleay get better rams later on, (as a plan to get 350$ PC NOW), then spend couple $100s down the track 100 then another 100 then its sussed... but
FIRT before you do that
CHECK Everything there is to know about that mobo, cpu is running, cache size, (again clocks arent everything) and check the timing,bus limit capability on the RAMS, if yo uKNOW you can go up to DDR3 on a mobo thats now using DDR2, (if it has a DDR3 slots)..etc that sort of thing, or how easy is it to change volts (is that mob got good rep to sligt over volt for good overclock?) that but that's more for advanced users.../gamers...

If i were you,
forget ATI, stick with nivida, GTX something, the best from 2 years ago will KICK this years mid-range ...and sometimes surprised do happens a mid from now is way better...all depends... but usually the BEST from 2 even 3 years back will be still be rocking hard!!!...so the used price for that will prob be slightly more then price of NEW MID NOW...so be prepared about that...but i dunno US market... only giving you ideas...AND if a model seem cheaper than others 'high-end' say a Cross fire single so cheap , chances are it had issues..and unpopular so try be aware of that...
hope this helps

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rams good names, corsairs, mushkins, OCZ, Gskill
gfx good name, EVGA, BFG, dunno what out there, but you find out...
good cpus, go quads if you can afford it, or a high end duals, forget AMDs unless their quads are cheap and a good batch /cache you have to sort that
mobos, theres always gonna be some favourites...find out what are they, and 'remember them' so that then if you spot those in a cheap deal an as long there is NO issues the board you gotta talk to them,, it could be a great starter, in fact a killer, cuz in gaming esp in LANs, in Most cases, unless your in the BEST gaming Class you dont need all the speed, and gloss, speed for games btu not gloss as details..and gaming is more about skills than specs...
CounterStrike Source still played by many, a ****ing good game, so popular it can be played on laptops, and you can still WIN...cuz the game itself was BUILT for LANs not glossy eye-candy and specs show-offs

HDDs pretty cheap,
GFX...cheap now...but dont getb fooled with Cheap with BIG rams...would likiely be SHIT GPU, great for videos but utter shit for games...

ok GOOD LUCK!

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JMH

We'll see in 2-5 years. We can't prove unless Windows 8 come out and we won't know if Microsoft will update the software. I'm sure lot of people would figure out how to increase FPS out of game, anyway.

I have experiment on FPS for years. In fact, I had a PC with ATI HD5870 2GB that ran over 500 FPS on iRacing with single monitor. When I capped it to 84 FPS, I saw NO difference between 84 FPS and 500 FPS. It's pointless to saying that 315 FPS is better than 270 FPS.

Zeroblazer21

good luck. you can alway check this website for a budget gaming pc.

here's the link.

System Builder Marathon, June 2012: $500 Gaming PC : Paying The Price For Ambition

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MushyCookies

DB!! I didn't know you were on here as well! Hello!

The Highlander

You can download Windows 8 anytime.

Download Windows 8 Release Preview

You don't need to explain to me about FPS. I already knew about that as I am PC gamer since 90's. Also I built a computer when I was 14 years old.

Again, Not about GeForce GTX 680. Let grab the budget GPU then it's probably running better Linux than Windows for gaming. This thread is about budget PC.

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Grummer

no no, it's about BUDGET GAMING!!..
that difficult to obtain balance between performance and price...and well 2 ways to do it, actually a combination is best...
DIY and buy USED...bUT for SOME parts, (decide for yourself and that also depending on exactly how you are going to milking every ounce of power from the plant...be it getting brand new RAMS, to fresh up, or brand new PSU...to ensure all holds together well, or lightly used GFX...that sort of thing...and also if get a FAST LCD, dont expect a cheap one in the Widescreen format, and more so dont expect finding an older one for alot cheaper, as they tend to be keepers..., as for Keyboards, dont need the best as they'd get thrashed but do get good mouse..., that sort of thing you'd have to think about...
it IS possible to build/obtain a cheap gamers..just have to be practical about, and like this means, forget BIG TB's Drives...****n waste of time...better go with quads and not overclock much, or i you do go overclock dont skimp on the cooling..ALWAYS a trade off...jsut gonna suss what the best trade off you'd be contend with

Oh
budget gamers...try get a decent size case for air flow and ease of cleaning' and that can mean forget that nice case afterall you dont want it nicked? do you?

sometimes, just sometimes smaller case are better for 'less turbulence inside (and less dust collecting in certain places)...just gonna be clever about routing air flows and whichm where you put fans... OH noisy fans will drive you nuts, unless your REall stone deaf, or like music or often in Loud places that other gamers dont notice...
but either way dont get a ****in big hi-rpm 60mm tornado fan you'd lose mates so quick it arent funny...

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Zeroblazer21

lolz. you really surprised me as well you're on all deaf website to meet ppls for gaming? nice! i always suggest or helping issues here at alldeaf.com related to computers,gaming custom pc,etcs well just hit me up for chatty when you feel like to until 18th for i will be in Oregon thru got a invitation for my friend's baby shower, stay there for two week.

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Zeroblazer21

i suggest to get a best airflow for any ideal computer case so you wouldnt have any issues and dont forget to get a dust filter...like pantyhose lolz

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Grummer

pantyhose LMAO


gotta google that trick for airflow in case modding LOL

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