A woman's right?

[dreama]

Many people who are pro abortion believe it is a woman's right to do what they want with their own bodies. Dispite the fact that the baby is not part of their body, merely inside it. Plus you will find that women can't do what they want with their bodies. Not even to have it sterilized unless you have kids first even if you don't want kids.

We've already got posts to discuss the ethics of abortion. This one is to discuss wether abortion really does have anything to do with woman's rights since loads of women are pro life and loads of men are pro abortion.

I also want to add a poll to this topic asking people who've actually had abortions if they did it of their own choice or wetehre they were presurized into doing it. And if they went ahead with an unplanned pregnancy wether anyone tried to presurize them into an abortion as I know this happens too. I hope it comes out as I can't find where to put poll options.

 

[jillio]

But the point is that a blastocyst, an embryo, and a fetus all have the potential to be a separate being, but are dependent upon the woman's body for survival. None can survive independently prior to the point of viability. So, yes, the woman has a right to decide whether or not she chooses to serve as a host. Moral issues aside, she has already been given the legal right to make that decision.

 

[dreama]

But the point is that a blastocyst, an embryo, and a fetus all have the potential to be a separate being,

They don't just have the potential to be a seperate human being, they ARE seperate. Just because they are inside the woman's body doesn't mean they are part of it. If someone entered your home you you would not have the right to kill them wether you felt they were welcome or not.

Yes, a woman may legally be alowed to abort but that doesn't make it moral and it doesn't always follow that It was entirely her choice.

Moderators: Could you edit my first post for me please to state that only people who have either had an abortion or an unplanned pregnancy can use this poll.

 

[Hwy99]

Well my opinion, it's wrong for someone to speak the women out from decide for herself. But I do agree with Dreama that the fetus inside woman's body doesn't mean it is part of woman, the baby and woman is seperately no matter what to me.

 

[iaskedalice09]

I prefer pro-choice, not pro-abortion. The foetus is totally dependent on the woman's body, it is equivalent to a tumour. Whether or not the woman chooses to carry it to conception is her choice. The issue for me isn't really women's rights per se; obviously, it IS a women's rights issue but it is more a privacy rights thing for me. Do we really want the government to interfere with private health-care decisions? For me, NO.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

Actually, it the woman's choice to do what she want with her body to abort the fetus. We don't have the right to judge a woman's desicion. So, whatever reasons she have to abort the fetus, it her bussiness and no one else's business. Abortion is put there for a reason for women and teenage girls to have a choice. But whatever the desicion a woman or teenagers decide to do, I have to respect that. If it is a religions reason a woman can't abort, I have to respect that also. I don't pass judgement on them. It best to let them make their own choices.

 

[shel90]

Actually, it the woman's choice to do what she want with her body to abort the fetus. We don't have the right to judge a woman's desicion. So, whatever reasons she have to abort the fetus, it her bussiness and no one else's business. Abortion is put there for a reason for women and teenage girls to have a choice. But whatever the desicion a woman or teenagers decide to do, I have to respect that. If it is a religions reason a woman can't abort, I have to respect that also. I don't pass judgement on them. It best to let them make their own choices.

I dont like the idea of abortion but I know it is not my place to tell the women what to do with their bodies.

I had an unplanned pregnancy but everyone supported my choice to keep it.

 

[jillio]

They don't just have the potential to be a seperate human being, they ARE seperate. Just because they are inside the woman's body doesn't mean they are part of it. If someone entered your home you you would not have the right to kill them wether you felt they were welcome or not.

Yes, a woman may legally be alowed to abort but that doesn't make it moral and it doesn't always follow that It was entirely her choice.

Moderators: Could you edit my first post for me please to state that only people who have either had an abortion or an unplanned pregnancy can use this poll.

No, dreama, they are not separate beings until they are born and the umbillical cord is cut, and certainly not prior to the point of viability. In your original post, you stated about whether the woman had the right, not from a moral standpoint. So the answer is, yes, she does have the right, as the law says she does. You can hardly compare an intruder in your home that poses a probable threat and is a living breathing adult to a blastocyst or an embryo. That's just silly.

 

[jillio]

I dont like the idea of abortion but I know it is not my place to tell the women what to do with their bodies.

I had an unplanned pregnancy but everyone supported my choice to keep it.

Exactly. If you want support for your right to choose , then you must support others right to choose, as well. It is a decision every woman must make for herself, and thank God, the law provides that opportunity to make the choice. If you disagree with abortion, then simply do not have one. It is your choice to make. But just because it is your choice for yourself, does not mean that you have the moral or the legal grounds to force your choice on another.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

I dont like the idea of abortion but I know it is not my place to tell the women what to do with their bodies.

I had an unplanned pregnancy but everyone supported my choice to keep it.

Yep,, young teenagers is different story u know.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I voted: I had an unplanned pregnancy but everyone supported my choice to keep it.

I had an unplanned pregnancy with my 2nd son. I want to wait until my 1st son goes Kindergarten then... surprisely it comes... and keep it...

Actually, it the woman's choice to do what she want with her body to abort the fetus. We don't have the right to judge a woman's desicion. So, whatever reasons she have to abort the fetus, it her bussiness and no one else's business. Abortion is put there for a reason for women and teenage girls to have a choice. But whatever the desicion a woman or teenagers decide to do, I have to respect that. If it is a religions reason a woman can't abort, I have to respect that also. I don't pass judgement on them. It best to let them make their own choices.

Yep,, young teenagers is different story u know.

Actually but I would not force them anything what they want but support their wish. I would educate them cons/pros about their future... etc. and give them time to think about...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Exactly. If you want support for your right to choose , then you must support others right to choose, as well. It is a decision every woman must make for herself, and thank God, the law provides that opportunity to make the choice. If you disagree with abortion, then simply do not have one. It is your choice to make. But just because it is your choice for yourself, does not mean that you have the moral or the legal grounds to force your choice on another.

Exactly, respect their decision instead of judge them as selfish, murder, etc.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Well my opinion, it's wrong for someone to speak the women out from decide for herself.

Exactly, that´s why I am pro-choice. It´s not my place to judge their decision.

But I do agree with Dreama that the fetus inside woman's body doesn't mean it is part of woman, the baby and woman is seperately no matter what to me.

No, the fetus depend on the woman´s body.

 

[shel90]

Yep,, young teenagers is different story u know.

My unplanned pregnancy occurred when I was 24 years old not as a teenager.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

I voted: I had an unplanned pregnancy but everyone supported my choice to keep it.

I had an unplanned pregnancy with my 2nd son. I want to wait until my 1st son goes Kindergarten then... surprisely it comes... and keep it...












Actually but I would not force them anything what they want but support their wish. I would educate them cons/pros about their future... etc. and give them time to think about...

Thanks dear.

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

My unplanned pregnancy occurred when I was 24 years old not as a teenager.

I had unplanned pregnacy.. but I could have been pregnant if I were a teenagers would be lot harder than it is for adult. But I love my child no matter what. She became the most important person in my life and changed me. Even if the father is a jerk.

 

[dreama]

No, dreama, they are not separate beings.

Yes, I believe they are seperate beings. So I totally disagree with what you are saying.

I'm all for woman being allowed to do what they want with their bodies. They can pierce it, tatoo it, use plastic surgery on it and and even remove bits if that's what they want. But I think the government MUST do something if the woman wants to kill her own child. To me it is irevlent wether this murder takes place before or after birth.

Plus I also don't believe that it's the woman's choice because often the woman experiences pressure to abort and althought I've never been in this possision. I have been in a possition where I was afraid of who I was living with. Being slapped around and having your head slammed in doors does have the result of making you extremely bidable.

 

[jillio]

Yes, I believe they are seperate beings. So I totally disagree with what you are saying.

I'm all for woman being allowed to do what they want with their bodies. They can pierce it, tatoo it, use plastic surgery on it and and even remove bits if that's what they want. But I think the government MUST do something if the woman wants to kill her own child. To me it is irevlent wether this murder takes place before or after birth.

Plus I also don't believe that it's the woman's choice because often the woman experiences pressure to abort and althought I've never been in this possision. I have been in a possition where I was afraid of who I was living with. Being slapped around and having your head slammed in doors does have the result of making you extremely bidable.

Victims of abuse suffer all sorts of emotional and mental consequences. But that has nothing to do with whether a woman is guaranteed the right by law to decide if she wants to abort an early preganancy. You are confusing the issues.

Law isn't decided on what we believe, it is decided on what can be shown to be true through fact. And the scientific facts are that a fetus is not viable at the points determined to permit elective abortion. By your definition, birth control would also be murder, as it prevents conception, thus destroying the potential for life to be created.

If a woman is so easily led that she is incapable of making up her own mind regarding something as important as whether or not to become a parent, then I suggest that she has some issues that would most likely negatively impact her ability to be a good parent.

 

[Doug5]

I dont like abortion but I think it should be legal. People need to be more dilligent about birth control so abortion isnt even a consieration

 

[Angel]

I voted "I felt pressurized having an abortion but I went ahead and had the baby", that happened during my first pregnancy.