Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin?

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Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin?

Fact: Jesus Christ never sinned, never:

"For we have not an High Priest [see also High Priest to King of The World] which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews 4:15 KJV)
Fact: The first recorded miracle of Jesus Christ was changing water into wine, for people to drink:

"And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. This beginning of miracles did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested forth His glory; and His disciples believed on Him" (John 2:10-11 KJV)

Fact: Jesus Christ drank wine, not only at the Passover observance every year (and, as He said, will do again in the future after His return), but at other times as well, as stated in the Scriptures:

"And He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is My blood of the New Testament [see also Covenant and Testament], which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's Kingdom" (Matthew 26:27-29 KJV) [see also "Thy Kingdom Come" - When?]

"The Son of man is come eating and drinking" (Luke 7:34 KJV)

Question: Jesus Christ never sinned, but moderately drank wine, even miraculously produced wine for others to consume on one occasion. How then can drinking alcohol be a sin?

When Is It A Sin? When Isn't It A Sin?

Some people choose to totally abstain from alcohol, and the Scriptures don't say that they should start.

Some other people should totally abstain from alcohol, or remain totally abstinent from alcohol, because the Scriptures make plain why excessive alcohol consumption (i.e. "alcoholism") is very damaging, not just for the individual who can't control their behavior, but for their families and society as a whole who are hurt by them.

Still other people do drink, very moderately, and the Scriptures say that it's not wrong.

There is no one answer to the question "Is drinking alcohol a sin?" - for some people, in some ways, it is a sin, for others, in other ways, it's not a sin.

John the Baptist did not drink alcohol; Jesus Christ did drink alcohol in moderation (as explained further below, getting drunk is a sin, but Jesus Christ never sinned - therefore Jesus drank, but never got drunk) - and both were criticized for it, either way:

"For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!" (Luke 7:33-34 KJV)

Those who use the term "demon alcohol," or terms like it, may wish to reconsider how they express it when it comes to Christianity. Jesus Christ did consume alcohol, but was absolutely spiritually pure - He warned about blaspheming the Holy Spirit in any way:

"And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come" (Matthew 12:32 KJV)
Alcohol consumption becomes a sin when it corrupts righteous thought or behavior, harms health, or violates any civil law:

"Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine" (Proverbs 23:29-30 KJV)

"Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty" (Proverbs 23:20-21 KJV)

"And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess" (Ephesians 5:18 KJV)

"Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying." (Romans 13:13 KJV)

Fact Finder: Jesus Christ plainly stated that He will drink wine, at the very least for Passover (which will still be observed in the future) i.e. "But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's Kingdom." (Matthew 26:29 KJV). Do the Scriptures also say that drunkards will be among those who will not be in the Kingdom of God?
1 Corinthians 6:10

Daily Bible Study - Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin?



What do you think of this? Christians claimed that Jesus drink juice, not wine. :dunno:

I know for a long time that Jesus drank red wine.


 
I enjoy drinking alcohol from time to time. I see nothing wrong with it as long as it is in moderate.
 
There is absolutely no scriptural evidence that Jesus ever drank wine himself or ever tried to get anyone else to drink wine. ln all scriptural accounts of the last supper it is "the cup" or "the fruit of the vine" that Jesus offers to the Apostles, not wine. ;)
 
It's probably from Mormon and Muslim.

(MOD NOTE: Unnecessary and personal)

There's ban on sale of alcohol on Sunday in some states.
 
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Red wine is made from red (or black) grapes.
 
Egyptian Wine

Egyptian wine has an extensive history within Egyptian civilization. Grapes were not native to the landscape of Egypt, rather the vines themselves are hypothesized to have been imported from the Phoenicians, though the actual origins remain in dispute. What is known, is that by the third millennium BC, Egyptian kings of the first dynasty had expansive wine cellars, and wine was used extensively in the temple ceremonies. The main consumption of wine in Egypt took place between the king, nobles, and the priests in temple ceremonies, and is evidenced by numerous painted relief's, and other archeological evidence. The vineyards of ancient Egypt were quite different from the modern methods of wine making today. As viticulture (or wine making), ceased to serve an exclusively ceremonial purpose, the Egyptians began to experiment with simple structures for their vines to train on, as well as found a way to train their vines so they were easy low maintenance bushes, and found ways for the soil to retain more moisture for the vines. Egyptian wine making experiments included the use of different wine presses, adding heat to the must (the grape juice ready for fermentation) in order to make the wine sweet, and differences in vat types and materials. The finished product was poured through a cloth filter, and then into earthenware jars, where they would be sealed with natural tar and left to ferment. The Egyptians kept accurate records of their vintages, and the quality of their wines, each jar of wine was clearly labeled with it's own vintage and quality.

The search for the recipes and wine types of the Egyptians have yielded mixed results within the delta region of the Nile. Due to the climatic changes since the time of ancient Egypt, quests for the right vine, the right mixture of materials, and other factors, have left the modern renditions of ancient Egyptian wine with something to be desired. Nestor Gianaclis, set out in 1903 to find the mixtures of Egyptian wine, as well as the necessary growing conditions, to create wine which tasted the same as the primordial counterparts of ancient Egypt. Nestor searched out areas throughout Egypt, looking for the right type of soil, moisture, and grape which could grow a wine worthy vine. With the aid of Egyptian ministries, seventy three conventional grape types were tried in addition to Nestor's twenty he himself had bred. Once the ideal soil type was found (similar to the soil of Champagne, France), it was not until 1931 that the first modern rendition of ancient Egyptian wine was produced. This rendition of the ancient wine continues to be made in the present day, however, many wine connoisseurs consider it of poor taste. Regardless, the taste of the ancients is still present 3,500 years later.
Egyptian wine making
 
We have discussed that about the wine on other thread, I think was last fall by Netrox. When Jesus turn water into wine, not meaning alcohol at first. But since been out in the sun thru the day, you know what wine becomes. When people got drunk, Jesus said, get rid of it. No, it's nothing wrong with drinking wine. Jesus uses wine at Last Supper not always meaning alcohol in them. Getting drunk is a sin, but drink wine is not. And have you heard non-alcohol wine, even looks like bottle of wine? Similar with Jesus. I know as today language uses as juice, but in old days, call it wine, not always mean alcohol.
 
I personally think that the occassional stiff drink is good but when you are out getting hammered from Friday night through Sunday afternoon, thats when you run into trouble. For one too much alcohol pretty much kills your liver, but in moderate consumption it is good for your heart.

In France, people normally drink a glass of wine a day, usually at dinner time.

In know people here who are good Christians and believe the Bible through and through that also sit down to their evening meal and have a glass of wine with it.

When I have a barbecue I typically have 2 or 3 beers for the night, and if I am celebrating something, I will have more of the hard stuff such as tequila, rum, and vodka.

But all of it in moderate consumption. If I am starting to get tipsy, I usually stop right there.

but however, I can sympathize with the drunk. I have been down that road as well. Shortly after my divorce and the loss of my house, I sank into a deep depression and I started drinking heavily, and for some weeks it was daily.

On weekends I was a total loss, I would easilly consume 2 bottles of wine, half a bottle of tequila, then finish off with vodka or Jaegermeister all in one night. For my 22nd birthday I took 17 shots of tequila before passing out in my attempt for 22 shots.

Am I boasting of my ability to hold my liquor, no. But I will say this, there are times I have blacked out for eight hours straight with no recollection of what I was doing, and I was running on autopilot. There are times I did some absolutely stupid stunts that if I were caught, could have easily landed me in jail and furthermore, could have led to the loss of my DD.

But God started gnawing at me, started telling me if I dont get my shit together that I am going to be in for a very rough life. There are some funny moments to remember but in the end drunkenness can cause stupidity.

Now that I have 'grown up' - I understand that everything is best in moderation. There are times I am tempted to drink more than I should, but I also know that if I do, I could end up putting myself or others in danger.

But at the same time, I think God allowed me to go through that period in my life so I could better understand the drunk and where they are coming from.

Alcohol and sex are the same thing - if they are used correctly, you have Gods blessing in doing so.
 
The two kinds of wine are grapefruit and alcohol. When Jesus drank the wine, it is grapefruit, not alcohol. The wine (alcohol), strong drink is wrong and sin.
 
I have no problem with the alcohol as long as people drink it moderately, just like some ADers here said.
 
Dixie said:
I personally think that the occassional stiff drink is good but when you are out getting hammered from Friday night through Sunday afternoon, thats when you run into trouble. For one too much alcohol pretty much kills your liver, but in moderate consumption it is good for your heart.

In France, people normally drink a glass of wine a day, usually at dinner time.

In know people here who are good Christians and believe the Bible through and through that also sit down to their evening meal and have a glass of wine with it.

When I have a barbecue I typically have 2 or 3 beers for the night, and if I am celebrating something, I will have more of the hard stuff such as tequila, rum, and vodka.

But all of it in moderate consumption. If I am starting to get tipsy, I usually stop right there.

but however, I can sympathize with the drunk. I have been down that road as well. Shortly after my divorce and the loss of my house, I sank into a deep depression and I started drinking heavily, and for some weeks it was daily.

On weekends I was a total loss, I would easilly consume 2 bottles of wine, half a bottle of tequila, then finish off with vodka or Jaegermeister all in one night. For my 22nd birthday I took 17 shots of tequila before passing out in my attempt for 22 shots.

Am I boasting of my ability to hold my liquor, no. But I will say this, there are times I have blacked out for eight hours straight with no recollection of what I was doing, and I was running on autopilot. There are times I did some absolutely stupid stunts that if I were caught, could have easily landed me in jail and furthermore, could have led to the loss of my DD.

But God started gnawing at me, started telling me if I dont get my shit together that I am going to be in for a very rough life. There are some funny moments to remember but in the end drunkenness can cause stupidity.

Now that I have 'grown up' - I understand that everything is best in moderation. There are times I am tempted to drink more than I should, but I also know that if I do, I could end up putting myself or others in danger.

But at the same time, I think God allowed me to go through that period in my life so I could better understand the drunk and where they are coming from.

Alcohol and sex are the same thing - if they are used correctly, you have Gods blessing in doing so.
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Wow! Thanks for sharing your experience and I am glad u are ok!!! :)
 
Jesus is God and He never sinned.

Many people like to use this alcohol question to promote the belief that Jesus was just a sinning man and not God. It's an old ploy. Ask the Pharisees if it worked for them.

Neither the "wine" nor bread of the Passover meal or Last Supper was fermented. Fermentation is a symbol of the contamination and spread of sin. That's why fermentation (leaven) was eliminated from the elements of the Last Supper.

The drinking of fermented alcoholic beverages by born again Christians is a sin.

Drinking alcohol will not send anyone to hell.

Who knows for sure how much "moderate" drinking is? It's not the same for every person under all circumstances. Why play with fire? Is it worth a DUI ticket or accident? Is it worth damage to the developing baby? Is it worth liver damage? Is it worth becoming an alcoholic? Is it worth doing something that you'll later regret?

Any chemical that impairs the mental process that is taken for non-medicinal reasons is a sin. That includes alcohol, prescription drugs, cleaning products, paint, and illegal street drugs.

Yes, we have debated this topic much in previous threads. No wasting time when the gates opened again, eh? ;)
 
Beer and weed are gifts from God. It is stupid if we allow these gifts to be wasted.

Drinking itself is not problem but the problems are being caused by person's behavior.
 
Reba said:
Jesus is God and He never sinned.

Many people like to use this alcohol question to promote the belief that Jesus was just a sinning man and not God. It's an old ploy. Ask the Pharisees if it worked for them.

Neither the "wine" nor bread of the Passover meal or Last Supper was fermented. Fermentation is a symbol of the contamination and spread of sin. That's why fermentation (leaven) was eliminated from the elements of the Last Supper.

The drinking of fermented alcoholic beverages by born again Christians is a sin.

Drinking alcohol will not send anyone to hell.

Who knows for sure how much "moderate" drinking is? It's not the same for every person under all circumstances. Why play with fire? Is it worth a DUI ticket or accident? Is it worth damage to the developing baby? Is it worth liver damage? Is it worth becoming an alcoholic? Is it worth doing something that you'll later regret?

Any chemical that impairs the mental process that is taken for non-medicinal reasons is a sin. That includes alcohol, prescription drugs, cleaning products, paint, and illegal street drugs.

Yes, we have debated this topic much in previous threads. No wasting time when the gates opened again, eh? ;)
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So if someone drinks alcohol to help their heart like wine, is that a sin? Just curious.
 
Apparently a glass of red wine is good for you because it has antioxidants; same as dark chocolate. I don't think drinking alcohol is a sin, but it can make you commit sins.

Woah Dixie, you sure can drink..:) But, I am glad to know you now realise how too much alcohol can affect you, and have decided not to go down the self-destruction path.
 
shel90 said:
So if someone drinks alcohol to help their heart like wine, is that a sin? Just curious.
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If a doctor prescribes it as the only way to treat a heart ailment then that would be a medicinal purpose.
 
Reba said:
If a doctor prescribes it as the only way to treat a heart ailment then that would be a medicinal purpose.
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Thanks ..just was wondering how it was viewed. :ty:
 
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