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pek1 said:
What's stopping you from getting it now, Defmusicman?
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Well....a full time job, 2 teenage kids, a wife and a mortgage. :) But, come to think of it, there's really no reason why I can't. I guess I'm just waiting for my kids to grow up and then I'll go back.
 
Defmusicman said:
Well....a full time job, 2 teenage kids, a wife and a mortgage. :) But, come to think of it, there's really no reason why I can't. I guess I'm just waiting for my kids to grow up and then I'll go back.
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Nothing wrong with that! I got my kid through high school and ready for college before I came back. The non-traditional student population is increasing every year.
 
jillio said:
Nothing wrong with that! I got my kid through high school and ready for college before I came back. The non-traditional student population is increasing every year.
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Yes, I've noticed that a lot of us baby boomers are not content to just turn gray and go gently into that good night.
 
pek1 said:
jillio,

You forgot to mention that we refuse to take NO! for an answer! :naughty: :cheers:
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And that is a benefit as well, as I discovered when advocating for my son educaitonally. And I now use that refusal to take know for an answer to advocate for others!
 
jillio said:
And that is a benefit as well, as I discovered when advocating for my son educaitonally. And I now use that refusal to take know for an answer to advocate for others!
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"Take know for an answer...... ":giggle:

We do the same for Lotte!.. Knowing one's rights and knowing what can be provided is crucial!
 
Cloggy said:
"Take know for an answer...... ":giggle:

We do the same for Lotte!.. Knowing one's rights and knowing what can be provided is crucial!
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Oops! My bad! But you must admit as well, that your system does not always parallel the American system.
 
jillio said:
Oops! My bad! But you must admit as well, that your system does not always parallel the American system.
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The laws relating to education in America are not good to deaf education...
 
jillio said:
Oops! My bad! But you must admit as well, that your system does not always parallel the American system.
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Absolutely... we're fighting our own systems...
Still, not taking "no" for an answer makes things happen....
 
shel90 said:
The laws relating to education in America are not good to deaf education...
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Never has been!

Incidentally, I met a hoh gal tonight at the fireworks that told me to get the real time captioning for my classes in the fall instead of a note taker. I'm thinking of doing this, as I think I am still missing too much.
 
as hoh - I feel like I missed out on crucial information at times that really did not give me a solid base to build onto such as math. I can remember for the longest time struggling with rounding, division, etc. I really did not struggle with the addition and subtraction. I eventually got rounding and estimating - but as for everything else I struggle. I think alot of it is due to the fact that I did not get the needed information to successfully complete the assignments, and I needed something visual and math is NOT visual, lol.

Everytime I think about anything really struggled with acedemically or socially - I think it was due in part to missing key information.
 
Dixie said:
as hoh - I feel like I missed out on crucial information at times that really did not give me a solid base to build onto such as math. I can remember for the longest time struggling with rounding, division, etc. I really did not struggle with the addition and subtraction. I eventually got rounding and estimating - but as for everything else I struggle. I think alot of it is due to the fact that I did not get the needed information to successfully complete the assignments, and I needed something visual and math is NOT visual, lol.

Everytime I think about anything really struggled with acedemically or socially - I think it was due in part to missing key information.
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Absolutely, Dixie. And that is what shel and I keep trying to articulate. As educators, we see that deaf students are still missing information, even though their hearing parents and hearing teachers believe that they are doing just fine. And it is information missed in the early years that prevents their being able to build on earlier concepts. Even though the hearing teachers and parents keep telling us it isn't happening, deaf people around the U.S. and other places keep saying, "Yes it is. It happened to me!" Why can't we listen, if indeed, our concern is to improve opportunity for deaf individuals? I find that refusal to listen closed minded and ethnocentric. How is it that you can propose to help a population when you have no understanding of that population?
 
jillio said:
Absolutely, Dixie. And that is what shel and I keep trying to articulate. As educators, we see that ALL deaf students are still missing information, even though ALL their hearing parents and ALL hearing teachers believe that they are doing just fine. And it is information missed in the early years that prevents their being able to build on earlier concepts. Even though ALL the hearing teachers and ALL parents keep telling us it isn't happening, ALL deaf people around the U.S. and other places keep saying, "Yes it is. It happened to me!" Why can't we listen, if indeed, our concern is to improve opportunity for deaf individuals? I find that refusal to listen closed minded and ethnocentric. How is it that you can propose to help a population when you have no understanding of that population?
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Isn't this more accurate?
 
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