This is a frightening situation in my area

Here's a little more information from the Washington Times:

D.C. shooting victims were DYRS wards

Two men injured in a daylight shooting near the U Street corridor had been committed to the District's Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services, The Washington Times has learned.

Devon Narce, 20, was a ward of the city at the time of the shooting. He was supposed to be on GPS monitoring but had failed to comply, agency sources said.

Marquette Hunter,19, who was also shot, was a former DYRS ward whose case closed last year, according to agency sources who talked with The Times on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter.

Police said the shooting occurred at about 2:20 p.m. Thursday in the 1400 block of V Street, NW. The men were reportedly both struck in the ankle. The suspect was described as a black male with a dark complexion, in his early 20s, wearing a black hat and blue pants.

The shooting comes amid a difficult week for the agency, which has seen two escapes of youth in its custody in recent days.

Police are still searching for an 18-year-old who escaped from a secure facility Sunday in Laurel after beating a corrections officer and taking his keys.

D.C. officials say the teen used a ladder to hop a fence at the New Beginnings Youth Development Center and got away in the officer's car. He ditched the car in the Barry Farm area of Southeast.

Police identified the youth as Treyvon Cortez Carey, 18. He previously had been identified by The Times as Travon Curry.

Carey's disappearance preceded an escape on Wednesday by four D.C. youths from the Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health Center, a secure juvenile facility in South Carolina. Three of the four youths were recaptured Thursday morning. A fourth youth, 19-year-old Delonte Parker, is still on the loose.

Parker was charged in 2006 with assault with intent to kill, according to sources close to the investigation. It is unclear whether he was convicted of the charge.

D.C. Superior Court records indicate he was also arrested in 2008 for fleeing a police officer in the area of 17th and Euclid streets in Northwest.

He was later found guilty on a charge of tampering with a monitoring device.
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D.C.'s $20m youth detention tab gets scrutiny after escapes

The roughly $20 million the District spends annually on sending delinquent youths to detention centers run by other jurisdictions is being scrutinized by a D.C. Council member after four city wards escaped a South Carolina facility.

Three of the four teens who escaped late Wednesday were back behind bars by noon Thursday. Delonte Parker, a 19-year-old who sources said was convicted of murder, was yet to be caught as of Thursday evening. The four escapees were among nine wards of the city's Department of Youth Rehabilitation Services being held at the Palmetto Summerville Behavioral Health Center in Summerville, S.C.

The escape in South Carolina "underscores the need for us to review and analyze our use of residential treatment centers outside the District of Columbia," said Ward 1 Councilman Jim Graham, whose committee oversees DYRS. Graham said his committee is gathering data on the program.

The city has about 225 wards in detention centers spread across about a dozen states and spends about $300 a day on each, officials said Thursday. That's more than twice the number of DYRS youths housed in the District's detention center and about 20 percent of the agency's 1,113 wards, most of whom are not behind bars.

Sending youths to distant detention centers "has a terrible impact on family connections, increasing the likelihood youths will be disoriented when they return to the community," Graham said. The councilman said he'd like to see the city's troubled youth placed at treatment facilities within 100 miles of the District.

Police union chief Kris Baumann said the District is sending delinquents to other jurisdictions "out of necessity" because it can't handle them on its own.

Those it does send, he said, "are not kids who have shoplifted, these are hard-core bad guys." And when dangerous criminals from D.C. escape in other jurisdictions, "it shows D.C. doesn't take protecting public safety seriously. How will a senator from South Carolina explain to his constituents that this city deserves autonomy when it lets dangerous kids run loose?"

Meanwhile, city officials said they continue to search for an 18-year-old who escaped from the District's detention center in Laurel on Monday. Travon Carey is believed to be in Southeast Washington. DYRS chief Neil Stanley said the facility has been locked down as investigators work to determine what went wrong.
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Do you have a dog that will bark if someone get near your house? If not I would get one! Finlay bark if anyone walked in the hallway in my condo.
There is hospital right behind my house and they have a mental health unit.
I was taking Finlay out one night during a big rain storm and man was in my driveway! He was bare foot and wearing only a hospital gown ! I when back in the house and called 911 and the police told me to stay in my house and lock my doors. The police send 3 or 4 cars to my house within seconds! I told the polices which way the guy was heading and the cops where able to pick the guy up. He had escape the hospital while waiting to be seen by a mental health case worker. I when to the hospital the next day to talk to the head of security and find out how the guy was able to escape the hospital , I told the head of security when one of their mental health patient end up in my backyard I have a right to complain about it! The guy agreed with me.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
Do you have a dog that will bark if someone get near your house?
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No, I don't.

I've had a stranger in my back yard before.

My backyard is completely enclosed by a 6-ft wood privacy fence with a locked gate. One day, I was home alone at my kitchen table with faces the sliding glass doors onto my back deck. All of a sudden, a man wearing only camouflage pants was standing at my slider and looking in! I didn't recognize, and I yelled, "What are you doing?" (Makes no sense, does it? :lol: )

I headed for the front door, grabbing a phone on my way out. When I got to my front yard, I noticed some other people standing in the street. It was the mother and her daughter (about 20 years old), and they looked upset. I asked what happened. They said that her boyfriend, a Marine, had just come from the base club acting crazy and wild. They had never seen him like that before. I told them that he went into my back yard. Then, the police showed up. They looked around, and caught him.

I found out later that someone that worked at the club had put something in his drink that made him go crazy. (After it wore off, he was fine again.) The club employee confessed to doing that to a few people. :eek3:

Apparently, under the influence of the drug, and being in good physical shape, the Marine (who wasn't tall) was able to scale my privacy fence. Yikes!
 
Reba said:
Just because I'm concerned about escapees that don't get reported doesn't mean I'm not concerned about offenders who haven't yet been caught. I'm concerned about both.

This 19-year-old is on the run, in a state where he's not familiar, and probably feeling desperate. He already has one conviction for violence. No one has any clue about where he went. Why shouldn't we be concerned?
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It is not an issue of being concerned. It is an issue of being overly concerned. He didn't just drop pff the face of the earth. Someone is assisting him or he would have been found by now. People with mental health disorders severe enough to require long term in patient treatment are not the best of planners. It wouldn't surprise me in the least for them to find him in the company of a family member.

Just because he committed violence in the past does not automatically mean he will commit violence now. His offense was prior to his ever being treated. He has received, evidently, extensive in patient treatment at this facility. Nor do we know the circumstances surrounding his offense.

We can't keep people locked in mental institutions or forensic mental health facilities for their entire lives just because they committed an offense in the past. If mental illness was found to be a factor in that offense, and obviously it was or he would not have been sent to a mental health facility, then we treat and when the patient is judged to have reached a point of no longer posing a danger to themselves or others, and has made sufficient progress in their treatment to re-enter the community, then they will be released. I would much rather have someone who has received the mental health services they need put back in the community than someone who has simply been sent to prison without the necessary services to insure the high likelihood that they will not re-offend. Each and every day we are turning inmates out of prison who are in worse condition mentally and emotionally than they were when they went in simply because of a lack of services available to treat their mental illness in prison. I feel much safer with a 19 year old that has been in treatment in patient at a reputable facility for an extended period of time than I would with someone released without that treatment. The one without treatment is almost a guarantee to re-offend. In fact, it has been shown in numerous studies that the factor that reduces recidivism by the greatest degree is treatment of mental disorders that are a factor in criminal behavior.
 
Reba said:
That's an awful lot of speculation.
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No more speculation than you are making in everything you have said. Your fear is based on speculation. And it is not speculation that he was probated. He was sent to the facility by the justice system. That means he was probated into their care.
 
Reba said:
Here's a little more information from the Washington Times:


D.C. shooting victims were DYRS wards - Washington Times
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See there. It is speculation on your part that he was ever convicted of the charge. This article plainly states that it is unclear whether he was convicted. Many people are charged with crimes. That doesn't automatically imply guilt or conviction.

The vast majority of this article is in reference to people other than the one in the OP and the one that you are so concerned about.

Additionally,when injury was inflicted, it wasn't on someone they assaulted. It was their injury.
 
jillio said:
No more speculation than you are making in everything you have said. Your fear is based on speculation. And it is not speculation that he was probated. He was sent to the facility by the justice system. That means he was probated into their care.
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I didn't speculate that he and three others easily escaped from the center. I didn't speculate that he isn't healthy enough to stick with the program, and instead made a run for it. I didn't speculate that the administration of the center doesn't care about informing the community when escapes happen.

I'm not fearful. I'm concerned about how poorly this situation is being handled.
 
Additionally,when injury was inflicted, it wasn't on someone they assaulted. It was their injury.
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No, that would be "sustaining" an injury. If he "inflicted" an injury, he injured someone else.
 
Reba said:
I didn't speculate that he and three others easily escaped from the center. I didn't speculate that he isn't healthy enough to stick with the program, and instead made a run for it. I didn't speculate that the administration of the center doesn't care about informing the community when escapes happen.

I'm not fearful. I'm concerned about how poorly this situation is being handled.
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You have speculated that he is at risk for committing violence, that he has been off meds for 4 days (without even knowing if he is prescribed psycho-tropics), you have speculated that the individuals living in the assisted care facility are in danger as a result of being located close to a mental health facility when you have no evidence what so ever that anyone living in the assisted care facility has ever even had contact with a patient from the facility, you have speculated that he should not have been in this facility without knowlege of the facility's programs, you have speculated about any number of things regarding this case.

If you aren't afraid, why use the word "frightening" in the title of the thread? Is it an attempt to induce fear in others?
 
Beach girl said:
No, that would be "sustaining" an injury. If he "inflicted" an injury, he injured someone else.
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Go back and read my post again. Once again, you have misunderstood what I am saying. Notice the word "when" at the beginning of my sentence. When injury was inflicted, it was not inflicted by the escapees. Yet we are being led to believe that everyone is at such a great risk of being harmed by this one individual.
 
Reba said:
I didn't speculate that he and three others easily escaped from the center. I didn't speculate that he isn't healthy enough to stick with the program, and instead made a run for it. I didn't speculate that the administration of the center doesn't care about informing the community when escapes happen.

I'm not fearful. I'm concerned about how poorly this situation is being handled.
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There is a reason the community wasn't informed. Just look at the reaction you had, and a couple of others have had. It puts him in danger of being killed by some vigilante who hears "mentally ill" and decides to shoot him for doing nothing but walking down the street. The ignorance surrounding the actual danger posed by mentally ill patients abounds. It is ridiculous in this day and time that people still carry fears and mistaken assumptions that should have been left back by a couple of centuries. Worse yet, an innocent person is at risk of being harmed just by being mistaken for this person.
 
Steinhauer said:
Middle of the Arizona desert miles and miles away from the nearest highway.
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Oh, so the mentally ill don't deserve to be in a facility where their needs can be met and where the medical care they need is readily available. Nice.
 
The two men in the article each inflicted an injury on the other. They shot each other. That's an assault.

These were not the people in South Carolina, but the two men in D.C. That's who you meant by "they" and "their," right?
 
jillio said:
Oh, so the mentally ill don't deserve to be in a facility where their needs can be met and where the medical care they need is readily available. Nice.
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I thought we were talking about an escaped convict who tried to murder someone. Besides, can't those needs be met in a facility in the middle of the desert miles and miles away from the nearest highway?

makes escapees easier to re-capture.
 
Beach girl said:
The two men in the article each inflicted an injury on the other. They shot each other. That's an assault.

These were not the people in South Carolina, but the two men in D.C. That's who you meant by "they" and "their," right?
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I am aware that it was different individuals, and in fact, have already made that point a few posts back. In fact, the article has virtually nothing to do with the OP. But the fact still remains, in that case, when the injuries were inflicted, they were not inflicted on some innocent person living nearby. So my point is actually supported by the article. The degree of danger posed that is being represented here is actually exaggerated to a disproportionate level to the actual risk being posed to the general public.
 
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