want to hear your opinions about cochlear implant

BecLak said:
For us who are severely-deaf, to speak takes just as much effort as one who is profoundly-deaf etc. Our loss is well below the 'speech banana' we cannot hear speech, so when it comes to learning to speak and speaking there can be no comparison between severe or profound or whatever. I can only speak for myself on this following aspect but I am sure that many share my experience. The sounds I do hear are only loud and irritating. English is as a foreign language to me (and I am Australian) just like any other foreign languages would be to me except sign/visual language. The frustration that I have the most is that I can hear some things so it is automatically assumed I can hear people speaking. I rely, as many of us do, on visual imput (lipreading, gestures, facial expressions to name a few). Get me in bad lighting and the wrong conditions and I am as deaf as we come.
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I also have to disagree with this. If you were talking about LISTENING to speech as a whole, I may be inclined to agree with you. Being able to pick up SOME sounds still doesn't make you understand speech well. However, picking up SOME sounds allow you to speak those same sounds easier. It's possible to "memorize" how sounds are through speech therapy but it is all from memory, hence more effort.

Basically, if what you said is true, then a person who originally had perfect hearing but is losing their hearing towards a profound state would STILL have perfect speech. Is this the case?
 
I also find that those with a severe loss are a little more likely to be able to use the phone in some capacity as opposed to the profound's.

Not too long ago, I was at a beach with someone who had a severe hearing loss. And since we were at the beach, we didn't have our hearing aids on or anything. I casually asked the other person if he could hear anything in the background. And the person responded, "Yes, I could hear people talking in the background a bit". I was like "Whoa! You could hear all that?". Cause as someone with a profound's, my hearing without the aid or CI is almost nil.
 
Daredevel7 said:
I also have to disagree with this. If you were talking about LISTENING to speech as a whole, I may be inclined to agree with you. Being able to pick up SOME sounds still doesn't make you understand speech well. However, picking up SOME sounds allow you to speak those same sounds easier. It's possible to "memorize" how sounds are through speech therapy but it is all from memory, hence more effort.

Basically, if what you said is true, then a person who originally had perfect hearing but is losing their hearing towards a profound state would STILL have perfect speech. Is this the case?
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I remember one deaf woman who lost her hearing as a teen. She clearly had deaf speech.
 
Daredevel7 said:
Basically, if what you said is true, then a person who originally had perfect hearing but is losing their hearing towards a profound state would STILL have perfect speech. Is this the case?
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I did not have perfect hearing at all, but did and still do have very clear and mostly perfect speech. When I say mostly perfect speech, I have some issues where I tend to forget how to pronounce a word, so I will stammer, but then eventually get it. I am now total deaf. No HA's or CI's. Still, no "deaf voice" and my family says, mostly perfect speech.
 
Severe and Profound is big difference. Severe it is much more likely to hear on the phone than Profound will be. Both are out of speech range but severe can benefit more with hearing aids and pick up sounds and use sounds and lipread at same time. Most of my friends with severe can use phone and mobile.

Only one person I know with profound can use phone is with CI but then it only with close family (parents and brother/sister) because used to their voice and they adapt their voice to make it easier as possible.
 
Not everyone with a Cochlear Implant can hear on the telephone. I continue using my VCO TTY-UltraTec1140. I can hear the dial tone but not anyone speaking. I understand from Sunnybrook/Toronto only a small number that they implanted can use a regular phone with their new Cochlear implant over the last 19 years.

I don't get unduly excited about this--just disconnect my implant and talk to the Relay Service-711.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
Phil,

I would not say only a small number of CI can use a cell or landbase phone. I can use both with no issues. I am not sure why you take off your implant when using the relay.
 
John57 I am not disagreeing with you except to point out what I said is from Cochlear implant section Sunnybrook Hospital/Toronto. They have been doing implants for 19 years-their experience. I don't have a cell phone but do have a regular Vista phone which indicates unanswered phone calls using Bell Canada TeleMessage Service. All incoming calls are automatically taped. Light Flashes red- just access Relay who key whatever the message is.

In using my TTY there is no voice-as Relay "shifts my incoming line to them" so they can hear for me. Also, as a habit the phone is my left side-where the Implant is. I did the same thing when my Hearing aid was connected-left ear- before becoming bilaterally deaf in Dec/06. I have used TTY for the last 15 years. No problem to me.

I tested using the regular phone just after activation-just heard the dial tone.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
That although generally speaking, it's easier for the severe to develop and maintain good auditory or speech skills compared to the profound. However, like some of the posters pointed out in this thread, sometime there are overlaps in this regard. Whereas we've come across some deaf people that although they had better hearing, they didn't develop as much auditory or speech skills. There are different factors involved. Such as hereditary, environment, upbringing, etc.
 
I don't think anyone can go just by the "numbers" on the hearing test that indicate mild, moderate, severe, profound. Based on those numbers, I should not have such good speech discrimination, but, at 100 db, I score pretty high. My loss is in the severe-to-profound range. (I didn't start losing my hearing until my mid-30's and started wearing HAs in my 40's)
 
LoveBlue said:
I don't think anyone can go just by the "numbers" on the hearing test that indicate mild, moderate, severe, profound. Based on those numbers, I should not have such good speech discrimination, but, at 100 db, I score pretty high. My loss is in the severe-to-profound range. (I didn't start losing my hearing until my mid-30's and started wearing HAs in my 40's)
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But you just state a good reason. Post lingually deaf people have a headstart as they already know the words.
 
Bottesini said:
But you just state a good reason. Post lingually deaf people have a headstart as they already know the words.
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Agree. That's why I added that to my post. I'm sure it's a contributing factor. I didn't let my brain get lazy by denying my hearing loss. :giggle:

Though I was diagnosed in my mid-30's, no one recommended HAs at that time. As soon as I noticed (used the phone on each ear to test - my left ear was the one that had the loss initially), I went back to get tested again and get a hearing aid.
 
Well neavz15 a Cochlear Implant is just a electronic device which for many deaf persons can/may bring sound BACK into their life. It is of course a PERSONAL CHOICE whether one should get Cochlear Implant if one becomes deaf/Deaf. I became bilaterally deaf on December 20, 2006-yeah some interest in Cochlear Implants.

As for your observation;"absurd"-so are computers/cell phones etc.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activatted Au8g/07
 
drphil said:
Well neavz15 a Cochlear Implant is just a electronic device which for many deaf persons can/may bring sound BACK into their life. It is of course a PERSONAL CHOICE whether one should get Cochlear Implant if one becomes deaf/Deaf. I became bilaterally deaf on December 20, 2006-yeah some interest in Cochlear Implants.

As for your observation;"absurd"-so are computers/cell phones etc.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activatted Au8g/07
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Computers and cell phones are not absurd.

Maybe you think so because you are not part of a generation that relies heavily on these. For me, I use these as my PRIMARY communication methods outside of ASL. Computers for email, relay, cell phone for texting, email, staying in touch with family and work. What more could I ask for?
 
I don't think anyone can go just by the "numbers" on the hearing test that indicate mild, moderate, severe, profound. Based on those numbers, I should not have such good speech discrimination, but, at 100 db, I score pretty high.
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I remember Lady Duke (old Deafblind member) saying that she was dx with a moderate loss but had zero speech perception. Aren't there some hoh folks who have decent residual hearing, but they have low speech perception?
 
"That Cochlear Implants are absurd" is neavz15 opinion. Valid-up to you. Still a free country.

Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
john57 said:
Phil,

I would not say only a small number of CI can use a cell or landbase phone. I can use both with no issues. I am not sure why you take off your implant when using the relay.
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I do well on cellphones but not so great on landlines.
 
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