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Old 09-04-2007, 06:46 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Personally, I think STD's can be caught by anyone, not just gay men. I did read a lot about the HIV/AIDS/STD spread but I didn't believe it when most people targeted the homosexual community. I felt this was a bias against them.

I know a few straight people who have STD's. It's not just the gay men who can get it. Straight people can catch it too.

As for having sex every day, that does not have to be a bad thing. Some people have a higher sex drive than others. it's perfectly normal. And others do have a lower sex drive. It happens to everybody.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I know what you mean, Freaky Cat. Some men who want sex 24/7 are sex addicts. I believe those men were sexually abused as children.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:43 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I know what you mean, Freaky Cat. Some men who want sex 24/7 are sex addicts. I believe those men were sexually abused as children.
Please elaborate that and provide the evidences to approve your argument why you believe that those men were sexually abused as children. Please do not take it in wrong way, I just want to know why you think so. This is new information to me.
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:44 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Bitch, please.

First of all, gay men are no more "sex obsessed" than their straight counterparts. The difference is, in our relationships, you have two male sex drives in play. So, while I never really like to generalize, let's put things in perspective, shall we? In a stereotypical straight relationship between a man and a woman, it's usually the man that is "ready to go" at a moment's notice. Sure, there are exceptions out there, but by and large, it's a widely-accepted "inside joke" in our culture that men will drop whatever they're doing, to have sex. So is it really a big surprise that when you put TWO men together in a homosexual relationship, there's going to be HEIGHTENED libido? After all, if your partner wants it just as much as you do, and you don't have to "beg" for it, etc... don't you think most STRAIGHT men would jump at the chance? I wonder if we polled most college fraternities, what those 'red-blooded American males' would say.

As for the "STD epidemic" in the gay community... firstly, let's not pretend that STDs are a gay-only phenomenon. But if, as I assert above, gays are potentially having sex more often (given MaleSexDrive x2), then the potential DOES exist for there to be a lot of guys out there spreading disease. Especially given that gays (especially younger gays) typically have more partners than their married, "settled down" counterparts. (Well, at least, the counterparts that aren't having affairs.) And, yes, I'll be the first to agree that men (regardless of sexuality) are typically riskier than women, when it comes to sex. So again, you put two men in a sexual encounter, you ratchet up the chance that they'll "throw caution to the wind". I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it doesn't really surprise me.

Speaking for myself, I can tell you that as a child of the 80s, and having AIDS education spoonfed to me throughout my childhood, I was (and in some ways, still am) scared as shit to do some things sexually. Don't get me wrong... I love to fuck as much as the next guy, but A) it's not worth dying for, and B) it's not worth harming my reproductive system. Thankfully, my caution has paid off: I've never had ANY kind of STD, whatsoever. No crabs, no herpes, no syphillus, no HIV, nothing. But you know what? Having sex is, in many ways, a crap shoot. No matter HOW careful you are, you're always taking SOME kind of risk.

As for your comment about gay communities being a disgrace... I can only say that in my opinion, you're overgeneralizing. The "gay scene" in a lot of metropolitan cities can be quite a shock to the uninitiated, to be sure... but there are also members of gay communities out there doing great things for themselves, and for others. But again, I'll use my college frat party analogy... why is it OK for THOSE guys to behave that way, and not gay guys? Because a lot of the gay guys out in the gay bars are older than fratboys? Well, I guess when you've been forced to live in the closet for years, and you're finally able to be your own person, you go through a "kid in a candystore" phase. Maybe if it were more socially acceptable for gay relationships to be recognized, and gays could "settle down" like their straight counterparts, there'd be less fratboy behavior. Or, maybe not.

As for PuyoPiyo's original post... bless your heart, you poor thing. You have too many boys and men who want to have sex with you? It sounds like you're ready for something more than sex, and most of the men in your life aren't. I've got news for you, my dear: there are a LOT of women out there in the world, as well as OTHER gay men, who feel or have felt the same as you. That's why "dating" is a difficult field to navigate, sometimes. Finding that "special someone" out there who's looking for the same thing that you are can be daunting. Just don't give up.

I do have a question, though, Puyo... some of these guys that you mention in your post... have they been successful in the past getting sex out of you, just by "coming over", "getting drunk", etc.? Where do you think their expectation comes from? Regardless, if you don't want these guys hanging around you just for sex, TELL them as much. If they have a problem with it, well, I guess they weren't really friends, now were they?
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Please elaborate that and provide the evidences to approve your argument why you believe that those men were sexually abused as children. Please do not take it in wrong way, I just want to know why you think so. This is new information to me.
The beginnings of sexual addiction are usually rooted in adolescence or childhood. For starters, the child often grows up in a chaotic, hostile or neglectful home. Or, the family may have been very normal otherwise, but the child grows up emotionally starved for love because affection is rarely expressed. The child may turn repeatedly to masturbation to escape the parents' violent arguments, for instance, or to make up for an unconscious lack of attention or affection.

Anonymous sex with multiple partners, "one night stands" picked up at bars, or sex with strangers in parks or restrooms, or sex in any number of anonymous situations, where sex is the object and no relationship is established with the person.

Compulsive masturbation--accompanied by mental images or thoughts about sex, or while viewing sexual images on the TV or computer screen or while looking at pornographic publications (or even while looking at non-sexual material, such as underwear or swim wear ads).

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Promiscuity is an effect for some people. Having to disassociate during the sexual abuse leads to disassociating from our own bodies and sexuality - and acting out sexually. Many sex addicts were sexually abused as children. Sex addiction is not about sexual expression. Sex addiction is a defense against emotions - is a way to avoid feeling feelings.

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Old 09-04-2007, 10:22 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The beginnings of sexual addiction are usually rooted in adolescence or childhood. For starters, the child often grows up in a chaotic, hostile or neglectful home. Or, the family may have been very normal otherwise, but the child grows up emotionally starved for love because affection is rarely expressed. The child may turn repeatedly to masturbation to escape the parents' violent arguments, for instance, or to make up for an unconscious lack of attention or affection.
That don't sounds right to me at all.

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Anonymous sex with multiple partners, "one night stands" picked up at bars, or sex with strangers in parks or restrooms, or sex in any number of anonymous situations, where sex is the object and no relationship is established with the person.
That would make a person a sex addicted? I have to disagree with that. A person who is sex addicted is completely different story than what you just describled. There is much more than that. Sex addiction is just like alochol or drug addiction. Very high sex drive affects people to become sex addicted. For example, one of my ex boyfriends who I would consider a sex addiction person because he required to have sex with me at least ten times a day. No I am not kidding about that. I wasn't ready to have sex with him and he asked for an open relationship which I don't believe in and had to break up with him. He came from really good family and have almost same background where I came from. That still don't explain how it caused people to become sex addicted. In my view that sex addiction is caused by very high sex drive and loneiness. It could go away when people get older and their sex drives will slow down eventually.

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Compulsive masturbation--accompanied by mental images or thoughts about sex, or while viewing sexual images on the TV or computer screen or while looking at pornographic publications (or even while looking at non-sexual material, such as underwear or swim wear ads).
Pornography does encourage people to become more and more sex obessed than ever. It is still not sex addiction. It is different type of addiction. I would consider that as psychological issue. Once you look at it and became too attracted to it. It is normal for many and many people to be like that.

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Promiscuity is an effect for some people. Having to disassociate during the sexual abuse leads to disassociating from our own bodies and sexuality - and acting out sexually. Many sex addicts were sexually abused as children. Sex addiction is not about sexual expression. Sex addiction is a defense against emotions - is a way to avoid feeling feelings.

The Crippling Shame of Incest / Sexual Abuse
Both links are not working... I am not sure why...

Interesting perceptive. I personally know some people who were sexually abused, molested or raped when they were young tend to be afraid of having sex or almost have no interest to have sex again. Anyone who rapes, sex abuse or molest have serious psychological issues.
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Old 09-04-2007, 11:28 PM   #37 (permalink)
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That don't sounds right to me at all.



That would make a person a sex addicted? I have to disagree with that. A person who is sex addicted is completely different story than what you just describled. There is much more than that. Sex addiction is just like alochol or drug addiction. Very high sex drive affects people to become sex addicted. For example, one of my ex boyfriends who I would consider a sex addiction person because he required to have sex with me at least ten times a day. No I am not kidding about that. I wasn't ready to have sex with him and he asked for an open relationship which I don't believe in and had to break up with him. He came from really good family and have almost same background where I came from. That still don't explain how it caused people to become sex addicted. In my view that sex addiction is caused by very high sex drive and loneiness. It could go away when people get older and their sex drives will slow down eventually.



Pornography does encourage people to become more and more sex obessed than ever. It is still not sex addiction. It is different type of addiction. I would consider that as psychological issue. Once you look at it and became too attracted to it. It is normal for many and many people to be like that.



Both links are not working... I am not sure why...

Interesting perceptive. I personally know some people who were sexually abused, molested or raped when they were young tend to be afraid of having sex or almost have no interest to have sex again. Anyone who rapes, sex abuse or molest have serious psychological issues.

Most men have a faithful, happy, & stable sex life with their wives. A man
related to me and his wife have been together 15 years. And they have 4 sons and 2 daughters. It doesn't seem like 15 years to him, it seems like yesterday. He is 45 years old. Most men don't brag about sex online.
You don't see Dr. Phil McGraw in forum, do you? There are many
men like Dr. Phil. And they behave normal. I would love to marry someone
like Dr. Phil. I wish to meet a good man. Those statistics about marriage
and divorce aren't true, because nobody asked us. They probably
did these statistics in Hollywood. Media likes to put negative things
in our heads.
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Most men have a faithful, happy, & stable sex life with their wives. A man
related to me and his wife have been together 15 years. And they have 4 sons and 2 daughters. It doesn't seem like 15 years to him, it seems like yesterday. He is 45 years old. Most men don't brag about sex online.

You don't see Dr. Phil McGraw in forum, do you? There are many
men like Dr. Phil. And they behave normal. I would love to marry someone
like Dr. Phil. I wish to meet a good man. Those statistics about marriage
and divorce aren't true, because nobody asked us. They probably
did these statistics in Hollywood. Media likes to put negative things
in our heads.
Are you saying that heterosexual men are better than homosexual men?

I don't always agree with Dr. Phil. I watched his talk show while I was at the gym and I am not impressed with the way he handle the situations.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:22 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I noticed that negative in some of your posts about sex. Some of you beleive to have sex once in a while... or older women don't care for sex etc. Have sex doesn´t mean that you are slut or whatever that´s because you & your partner or friend agree each other to have sex with no serious relationship.

A healthy sex life: 10 reasons to make love
A healthy sex life: 10 reasons to make love

Sex makes people healthy, cheerful, strong, beautiful and sleepy
Sex makes people healthy, cheerful, strong, beautiful and sleepy - Pravda.Ru

You don´t have to sex if you do not feel want. It´s no good if you feel being force to have sex that´s because your partner or friend want it. It´s important to consider your feeling either you want to have sex or not... It´s healthy but mainly important is consider sex safety.

It´s unfair to play people´s feeling to have sex because it make them beleive that you love them then end heartbreaking... no good. If you feel want to have sex with your partner or friend without serious relationship with them then let them know first then they will appreciate your honestly. It´s their or your feeling/decision...

I agree that it´s not normal to have sex all the time 24/7...

This is for heterosexual & homosexual/lesbian, I am referring to with my post.
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^^^WOW! Great post! Thanks for the links! I just learned new thing of the day!
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No, I am saying most men don't have sexual problem.
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yes i agree its ok to have sex once in a while..but have sex 24/7 every day?? by then it would be boring.. most of them would say can i have a quickie sex? where is the women's satifiscation?

i agree theres something wrong with them guys who want sex 24/7 !
Well, make HIM to suffer. By how ? Make him to cook dinner, wash dishes, housechores, pay all the bills and everythin' for 365 days. That will make women to satisfied before considerin' to give in what HE wants.

If, that makes him gettin' tired of doin' all things for her - then, he will understand HOW she feels about s e x.
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I noticed that negative in some of your posts about sex. Some of you beleive to have sex once in a while... or older women don't care for sex etc. Have sex doesnīt mean that you are slut or whatever thatīs because you & your partner or friend agree each other to have sex with no serious relationship.

A healthy sex life: 10 reasons to make love
A healthy sex life: 10 reasons to make love

Sex makes people healthy, cheerful, strong, beautiful and sleepy
Sex makes people healthy, cheerful, strong, beautiful and sleepy - Pravda.Ru

You donīt have to sex if you do not feel want. Itīs no good if you feel being force to have sex thatīs because your partner or friend want it. Itīs important to consider your feeling either you want to have sex or not... Itīs healthy but mainly important is consider sex safety.

Itīs unfair to play peopleīs feeling to have sex because it make them beleive that you love them then end heartbreaking... no good. If you feel want to have sex with your partner or friend without serious relationship with them then let them know first then they will appreciate your honestly. Itīs their or your feeling/decision...

I agree that itīs not normal to have sex all the time 24/7...

This is for heterosexual & homosexual/lesbian, I am referring to with my post.
Awesome post! I just learn something from you too. Look at the feel before the sex

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Well, make HIM to suffer. By how ? Make him to cook dinner, wash dishes, housechores, pay all the bills and everythin' for 365 days. That will make women to satisfied before considerin' to give in what HE wants.

If, that makes him gettin' tired of doin' all things for her - then, he will understand HOW she feels about s e x.
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That's same hasppen to my ex boyfriend, he was begged me for sex without condom then I was dumped him then got other boyfriend, it doesn't not bother me so much, not worse as before.
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That's same hasppen to my ex boyfriend, he was begged me for sex without condom then I was dumped him then got other boyfriend, it doesn't not bother me so much, not worse as before.
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I know what you mean, Freaky Cat. Some men who want sex 24/7 are sex addicts. I believe those men were sexually abused as children.
How do you know they were abused? They could just love sex for sex's own sake. IT's not always about being abused, sometimes men just like sex.

Plus, Men are not the only ones who can be sex addicts. Women can be sex addicts as well.
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How do you know they were abused? They could just love sex for sex's own sake. IT's not always about being abused, sometimes men just like sex.

Plus, Men are not the only ones who can be sex addicts. Women can be sex addicts as well.
I said "SOME". Re Read my quote.

Yes true.
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