Homophobia / Gay as Choice - Page 4

Apocalypse · 07-01-2003, 06:51 AM

its turning into a pointless thread...

Steel X · 07-01-2003, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Apocalypse
its turning into a pointless thread...

I'm sorry to hear that

Justin Sane · 07-01-2003, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deaf258
/me develops a serious case of justinphobia!

ph33rz!

scare of me?

then youre wussy.

07-01-2003, 03:30 PM

Don't start a flame again, Deaf258 and Justin Sane.

07-01-2003, 03:37 PM

Let's be civilized adults here and not make this thread into a flaming one because I know we all can truly learn from each other. I do have gays/lesbians friends and I do also have friends that are questioning gays and lesbians about their choice of their sexual orientation/preferences. I decided not to choose the word "homophobic" because it seems to raise up a lot of opinions about what the true meaning of "homophobic" meant. You see, I have this thread from front and back several times and I've come across some interesting posts myself. I can understand where Justin Sane stands because he does wonder why gays and lesbians prefer their own gender when they have not yet experienced men/women. Keep in mind, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and we can make this into an honest debate without resorting to scare tactics, insults and flamings. I have to admit I did insult Justin Sane and I apologized for it because I jumped to the conclusion without reading the whole thread because you see, I was instantly thinking in my friends' mode. All they went through.. I put myself in their shoes when I could have stepped back and be neutral. I'm really encouraging you all not to flame this thread because I can see all of us learning from each other, especially in this society. Only acceptance can make the transition easier for gays and lesbians... sure it's normal to have questioning down the road but everyone's entitled to that! Ridiculing is not acceptable, how would you feel if someone ridiculed you.."You're supposed to be hearing, not deaf!", your first gut instinct would be to go into attack mode & defend yourself. I realize I'm making a poor comparison but at least, I'm trying to show a comparison!

Steel X · 07-01-2003, 05:37 PM

if someone told me that i'm supposed to be hearing, i'll just kill him.

SilenceGold · 07-01-2003, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steel
if someone told me that i'm supposed to be hearing, i'll just kill him.

I guess you're following your gut instinct instead of using your brain. :p

07-01-2003, 05:44 PM

Oh, wait!!! I realized I have insulted myself saying I am justinphobic. Now, I don't like that new word "justinphobic"!! Its funny that the culture according to Justin Sane has created a nickname "justinphobic" to degrade people who are aganist the idea of talking or posting replies to Justin Sane. How mature of myself to do name-calling towards people who express their opinion about Justin Sane. This post is not intended to bash other people, I am just telling you what I see.

(does that sound stupid?)

Steel X · 07-01-2003, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilenceGold
I guess you're following your gut instinct instead of using your brain. :p

depends on my mood

SilenceGold · 07-01-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deaf258
Oh, wait!!! I realized I have insulted myself saying I am justinphobic. Now, I don't like that new word "justinphobic"!! Its funny that the culture according to Justin Sane has created a nickname "justinphobic" to degrade people who are aganist the idea of talking or posting replies to Justin Sane. How mature of myself to do name-calling towards people who express their opinion about Justin Sane. This post is not intended to bash other people, I am just telling you what I see.

(does that sound stupid?)

No you don't sound stupid..but you looked stupid. :p

Yes, I understand what you're saying..

That reminds me of when I was a kid..I used to sign out, "RAID" and then spray on myself everytime someone ugly touched me. :p

I was just a kid..a typical 5 yrs old. :p

07-01-2003, 06:13 PM

I was making a point, referring that stupidity to the first post of this thread. I am not bashing, just stating my opinions.

SilenceGold · 07-01-2003, 06:16 PM

Yes, we sometimes didn't know we were being stupid...just like me.

CatoCooper13 · 07-01-2003, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SilenceGold
No you don't sound stupid..but you looked stupid. :p

Yes, I understand what you're saying..

That reminds me of when I was a kid..I used to sign out, "RAID" and then spray on myself everytime someone ugly touched me. :p

I was just a kid..a typical 5 yrs old. :p

That was funny....kids! Kids can be hysterical to watch and they're VERY creative when they WANT to be!

I lived around gays and lesbians from the years of 1990 until now...although I'm living with my husband, I still do have some gay friends around here. I just have never been bothered by their sexual preferences because I used to be, at that point, confused on which direction I should be heading way back down the road before I decided to go straight and get married.

Sometimes when I'm in a weird or curious mood, I'd bombard my gay friends on how they enjoy sex, etc etc! Heheh...norti me! ;P
Of course, I'd ask first to make sure I'm not weirding them out.

Cheers,

Goldie

Fly Free · 07-01-2003, 07:58 PM

now ive noticed this thread has gone from homophobic to hetrophobic to justinphobic LOL -- granted yes i agree with Deaf258 it IS getting pretty stupid when ppl here come up with other terminologies that ends with "phobic"

and with that -- what i CAN do is just simply ignore the homophobes and live my life MY WAY and the homophobes can live their life THEIR WAY and sadly would be very small minded in life's lessons but thats IMHO their problem

if the homophobes want to go thru life skeered of the gay, lesbian and bisexual community and we have no reason to be conversing with them in the first place i still say its their problem

come to think of it -- Justin has once posted he DOESNT CARE if his daughter is a lesbian and would disown his son if hes gay -- what difference would it be if the daughter is a lesbian that would make her part of the gay/lesbian/bisexual community no matter how u want to put it Justin (thats an FYI) and i dont think the daughter would like finding out her dad would freak out if there are gay and lesbians in this world and who accepts his daughter but not her brother qq

real hypocritical i must say and quite contradictory

edit: ive found the thread where hes posted on his own abt this issue and how he felt in ref to daughter/son

http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...446#post107446

javapride · 07-01-2003, 08:13 PM

from reading fly free's posting and i have to agree with her that justin is contradicting himself when it comes to acceptance, from my perspective of children coming out weather gay or lesbain i think IMHO we should love BOTH of them not just love one and disown the other cuz he's gay and shes a lesbain it sounds like ur favoring one child and rejecting the other thats not showing love for the child. U can say u accept the gay child but im sure u both would compromise that the gay child not bring thier relationship home to the house and would have to do the same for the lesbain child in fairness otherwise if u accepted ur daughter being a lesbain u would have to accept ur son as well as part of fairness.

07-01-2003, 08:23 PM

People contradict themselves all the time.

07-01-2003, 08:36 PM

First of all, I am dismayed about how this thread is turning out. A discussion about the usage of the word homophobia, then a joke about being heterophobia and then Justinphobia.

I was hoping that this thread would serve as a tool for the Gay and Lesbian people to learn not to instantly call straight people homophobics if the straight people don't give "right kind of comments." I am so fed up of gay and lesbian people crying "homophobes" and blowing things out of protportion. I am going to close this thread and put this under review to see whether if the other moderators think that this is going in the right direction or not. Sorry everyone.

Lasza · 08-02-2003, 02:57 PM

Bring that thread back.

Welcome urself to have debate this.

***VamPyroX*** · 08-03-2003, 09:19 AM

I think that homophobia usually applies to people who were raised in a close-minded environment. Some of those who were raised in a close-minded environment do manage to become more open themselves and not end up being homophobic. I'm one of those who have become more open-minded. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. However, I find it pitiful for people to be homophobic and take it out on those homosexuals.

***VamPyroX*** · 08-03-2003, 06:26 PM

Mod Note:

This thread has been unlocked. If there are any more problems, I will lock it again.

Loopalooza · 08-10-2003, 01:40 AM

Definitely not a choice. Wasn't for me!

07-01-2003, 05:37 PM	#96 (permalink)
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Fly Free Just me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Wherever i want to be LOL Posts: 9,100	now ive noticed this thread has gone from homophobic to hetrophobic to justinphobic LOL -- granted yes i agree with Deaf258 it IS getting pretty stupid when ppl here come up with other terminologies that ends with "phobic" and with that -- what i CAN do is just simply ignore the homophobes and live my life MY WAY and the homophobes can live their life THEIR WAY and sadly would be very small minded in life's lessons but thats IMHO their problem if the homophobes want to go thru life skeered of the gay, lesbian and bisexual community and we have no reason to be conversing with them in the first place i still say its their problem come to think of it -- Justin has once posted he DOESNT CARE if his daughter is a lesbian and would disown his son if hes gay -- what difference would it be if the daughter is a lesbian that would make her part of the gay/lesbian/bisexual community no matter how u want to put it Justin (thats an FYI) and i dont think the daughter would like finding out her dad would freak out if there are gay and lesbians in this world and who accepts his daughter but not her brother qq real hypocritical i must say and quite contradictory edit: ive found the thread where hes posted on his own abt this issue and how he felt in ref to daughter/son http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.ph...446#post107446 Last edited by Fly Free; 07-01-2003 at 08:02 PM.

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07-01-2003, 06:51 AM	#91 (permalink)
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07-01-2003, 03:30 PM	#94 (permalink)
kuifje75 Guest Posts: n/a	Don't start a flame again, Deaf258 and Justin Sane.

07-01-2003, 03:37 PM	#95 (permalink)
Freaky Guest Posts: n/a	Let's be civilized adults here and not make this thread into a flaming one because I know we all can truly learn from each other. I do have gays/lesbians friends and I do also have friends that are questioning gays and lesbians about their choice of their sexual orientation/preferences. I decided not to choose the word "homophobic" because it seems to raise up a lot of opinions about what the true meaning of "homophobic" meant. You see, I have this thread from front and back several times and I've come across some interesting posts myself. I can understand where Justin Sane stands because he does wonder why gays and lesbians prefer their own gender when they have not yet experienced men/women. Keep in mind, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and we can make this into an honest debate without resorting to scare tactics, insults and flamings. I have to admit I did insult Justin Sane and I apologized for it because I jumped to the conclusion without reading the whole thread because you see, I was instantly thinking in my friends' mode. All they went through.. I put myself in their shoes when I could have stepped back and be neutral. I'm really encouraging you all not to flame this thread because I can see all of us learning from each other, especially in this society. Only acceptance can make the transition easier for gays and lesbians... sure it's normal to have questioning down the road but everyone's entitled to that! Ridiculing is not acceptable, how would you feel if someone ridiculed you.."You're supposed to be hearing, not deaf!", your first gut instinct would be to go into attack mode & defend yourself. I realize I'm making a poor comparison but at least, I'm trying to show a comparison!

07-01-2003, 05:44 PM	#98 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, wait!!! I realized I have insulted myself saying I am justinphobic. Now, I don't like that new word "justinphobic"!! Its funny that the culture according to Justin Sane has created a nickname "justinphobic" to degrade people who are aganist the idea of talking or posting replies to Justin Sane. How mature of myself to do name-calling towards people who express their opinion about Justin Sane. This post is not intended to bash other people, I am just telling you what I see. (does that sound stupid?)

07-01-2003, 06:13 PM	#101 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	I was making a point, referring that stupidity to the first post of this thread. I am not bashing, just stating my opinions.

07-01-2003, 06:16 PM	#102 (permalink)
SilenceGold Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,484	Yes, we sometimes didn't know we were being stupid...just like me.

07-01-2003, 08:13 PM	#105 (permalink)
javapride Java's Big Island Life! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Posts: 6,509	from reading fly free's posting and i have to agree with her that justin is contradicting himself when it comes to acceptance, from my perspective of children coming out weather gay or lesbain i think IMHO we should love BOTH of them not just love one and disown the other cuz he's gay and shes a lesbain it sounds like ur favoring one child and rejecting the other thats not showing love for the child. U can say u accept the gay child but im sure u both would compromise that the gay child not bring thier relationship home to the house and would have to do the same for the lesbain child in fairness otherwise if u accepted ur daughter being a lesbain u would have to accept ur son as well as part of fairness.

07-01-2003, 08:23 PM	#106 (permalink)
kuifje75 Guest Posts: n/a	People contradict themselves all the time.

07-01-2003, 08:36 PM	#107 (permalink)
kuifje75 Guest Posts: n/a	First of all, I am dismayed about how this thread is turning out. A discussion about the usage of the word homophobia, then a joke about being heterophobia and then Justinphobia. I was hoping that this thread would serve as a tool for the Gay and Lesbian people to learn not to instantly call straight people homophobics if the straight people don't give "right kind of comments." I am so fed up of gay and lesbian people crying "homophobes" and blowing things out of protportion. I am going to close this thread and put this under review to see whether if the other moderators think that this is going in the right direction or not. Sorry everyone.

08-02-2003, 02:57 PM	#108 (permalink)
Lasza Premium Lurker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mile High State Posts: 2,510	Bring that thread back. Welcome urself to have debate this.

08-10-2003, 01:40 AM	#111 (permalink)
Loopalooza Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama Posts: 4	Definitely not a choice. Wasn't for me!