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Unread 01-17-2012, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hooray! FCC Releases Television IP Captioning Rules

The FCC Order says the new rules:
-cover devices that receive and play back video programming, such as TV via smartphones, tablets, personal computers, and television set-top boxes;
-include “integrated software” in covered devices (that is, software installed in the device by the manufacturer before sale or that the manufacturer requires the consumer to install after sale);
-include all recording devices and removable media players;
-exclude professional and commercial equipment from the requirements;
-exempt display-only monitors;
-require apparatus to display or pass-through closed captioning on each of their video outputs;
-do not grant blanket waivers or exempt any device or class of devices;
-modify the existing television receiver closed captioning decoder requirements to conform to new screen size and achievability provisions;
-set a compliance deadline of January 1, 2014 for devices;
-require video programming owners to send required caption files for IP-delivered video programming to video programming distributors and providers along with program files;
-require video programming distributors and providers to enable the rendering or pass through of all required captions to the end user, including through the hardware or software that a distributor or provider makes available for this purpose;
-require video programming owners and video programming distributors and providers to agree upon a mechanism to make available to video programming distributors and providers information on video programming that is subject to the IP closed captioning requirements on an ongoing basis;
-require video programming owners to provide video programming distributors and providers with captions of at least the same quality as the television captions for the same programming;
-require distributors and providers to maintain the quality of the captions provided by the video programming owner.
-set up a schedule of deadlines for differently released programming (e.g., prerecorded programming not edited for Internet distribution, live and near-live programming, prerecorded programming edited for Internet distribution, archival content, programming already in the video programmer distributor's library);
-allow an exemption based on economic burden;
-permit entities to comply with the new requirements by alternate means; and
-adopt a complaints procedure.

These included:
-the deadlines recommended by the VPAAC;
-content not edited from showing on TV will be covered in 6 months, live and near-live content in 12 months, and content edited from the TV showing in 18 months;
-all devices that have a video player capable of showing video programming are covered starting in 2014, including mobile devices;
-the HDMI hole is closed (hooray!). Starting in 2014, DVD and BluRay players must support CC over HDMI with set-top boxes also required to support them.
-caption quality requirements with respect to fonts, sizes, etc. were adopted.


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Unread 01-17-2012, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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great news. does this mean we will not be seeing some odd captions?
for ex: The person is saying "what have we done here?!", there will be no more crappy caption? "Wat sfsd sdsw here?1"
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Yay! This is a done deal now, not just suggested?
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Unread 01-17-2012, 09:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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-the HDMI hole is closed (hooray!). Starting in 2014, DVD and BluRay players must support CC over HDMI with set-top boxes also required to support them.
-caption quality requirements with respect to fonts, sizes, etc. were adopted.

So that means all new DVD/BD players produced in 2014 and later must include a CC decoder, correct? If so, what about BD movies that no longer have CC? I suspect it's mandatory for DVD movies with CC only. List of Streaming Services with CC/Subtitles [Netflix, AppleTV, Vudu, Amazon, etc] post #12-2nd paragraph explains why BD movies don't have CC.

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Unread 01-18-2012, 04:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So that means all new DVD/BD players produced in 2014 and later must include a CC decoder, correct? If so, what about BD movies that no longer have CC? I suspect it's mandatory for DVD movies with CC only. List of Streaming Services with CC/Subtitles [Netflix, AppleTV, Vudu, Amazon, etc] post #12-2nd paragraph explains why BD movies don't have CC.
Good question. I already sent comment to COAT. I will wait for answering.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 07:52 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Good question. I already sent comment to COAT. I will wait for answering.
OK, no problem, however if FCC requires future BD movies to include CC (even though it may be impossible), I wonder why since almost all or most of them include SDH and/or English subtitles.

I understand that some DVD movies have CC but no subtitles so it makes sense to have that requirement for all future BD players to include a CC decoder so they can play those DVDS with CC thru HDMI. That will make deafies, particularly a member named rhr happy for sure but they have to wait until 2014.
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Unread 01-18-2012, 09:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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OK, no problem, however if FCC requires future BD movies to include CC (even though it may be impossible), I wonder why since almost all or most of them include SDH and/or English subtitles.

I understand that some DVD movies have CC but no subtitles so it makes sense to have that requirement for all future BD players to include a CC decoder so they can play those DVDS with CC thru HDMI. That will make deafies, particularly a member named rhr happy for sure but they have to wait until 2014.
True, I know that RHR need CC w/ black box on BD movies
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Where are the penalties for not complying? Just like Airlines break FAA mantence rules face fines.
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Where are the penalties for not complying? Just like Airlines break FAA mantence rules face fines.
Yeah, good point! I guess we have to wait until it becomes effective in 2014 to find out or maybe only the manfacturers, not customers get the details.
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FCC Announces Internet Captioning Deadlines

FCC Announces Internet Captioning Deadlines | National Association of the Deaf

After many years of hard work by the National Association of the Deaf (NAD) and other organizations and advocates, the IP closed captioning rules were published in the Federal Register on March 30, 2012 and establishes April 30, 2012 as the effective date for the rules. According to the rules, video programming shown on the Internet after being shown on television must have captions based on the following schedule established by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).

The new rules require the following schedule for each category of new video programming to begin full captioning compliance:

September 30, 2012: Prerecorded programming that is not edited for Internet distribution;
March 30, 2013: Live and near live programming that was recorded within 24 hours of broadcast on television;
September 30, 2013: Prerecorded programming that is edited for Internet distribution.
This means that by September 30, 2013, 100% of new video programming shown on television with captions must have captions when shown online.

By contrast, video programming that is not new (as of April 30, 2012) but re-aired on television must be shown online with captions based on the following deadlines:

The programming must be captioned within 45 days after the date it is shown on television with captions on or after March 30, 2014;
The programming must be captioned within 30 days after the date it is shown on television with captions on or after March 30, 2015;
Such programming must be captioned within 15 days after the date it is shown on television with captions on or after March 30, 2016.
In addition, the rules require that covered “apparatus” (including computers, smart phones, tablets, DVD and Blu-ray players, and any physical device capable of receiving or playing back video programming simultaneously with sound) sold or manufactured in the United States must have closed captioning capability as of January 1, 2014.

To see our original post about the new rules, please visit:
FCC Releases Internet Protocol Captioning Rules | National Association of the Deaf
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great news. does this mean we will not be seeing some odd captions?
for ex: The person is saying "what have we done here?!", there will be no more crappy caption? "Wat sfsd sdsw here?1"
Or how about this?

"The UN hopes to send observers to Syria within the next few days to monitor a fragile ceasefire"

Becomes this in text - "The Union hopes to send obstetricians to Syracuse witty neck few daise to mode it tore a fragile cease forest"

FAIL, Youtube!
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Or how about this?

"The UN hopes to send observers to Syria within the next few days to monitor a fragile ceasefire"

Becomes this in text - "The Union hopes to send obstetricians to Syracuse witty neck few daise to mode it tore a fragile cease forest"

FAIL, Youtube!
Yeah, I saw that, too. YT is ****ed up!
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Yeah, I saw that, too. YT is ****ed up!
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I'm trying to figure out where this documentary fits in - http://www.facebook.com/fairedocumentary

Isn't this supposed to be captioned by now. I asked on FB if is was captioned, and they had two words - "No, sorry."
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I'm trying to figure out where this documentary fits in - http://www.facebook.com/fairedocumentary

Isn't this supposed to be captioned by now. I asked on FB if is was captioned, and they had two words - "No, sorry."
Has this show been on TV w/ CC before? If not, then like they said, no, sorry (meaning they don't have to caption it unfortunately). If it has, then I suggest you to read CVAA: Web Captions REQUIRED starting TODAY

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Right now I happen to noticed that now that CNN news finally starting the internet captioning. Yeeeaaay! I'm not sure about CC start right away when it first release the video, but for sure it will show up day later. Also, nice thing is that you can set CC configuration like set font to yellow, no background and such.
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Right now I happen to noticed that now that CNN news finally starting the internet captioning. Yeeeaaay! I'm not sure about CC start right away when it first release the video, but for sure it will show up day later. Also, nice thing is that you can set CC configuration like set font to yellow, no background and such.
Yeah, finally! I just watched only two videos with CC but the rest don't have CC available yet.
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Yeah, finally! I just watched only two videos with CC but the rest don't have CC available yet.
Yes, one thing that I noticed that anything that come from YouTube, they don't CC it. CNN only CC on their own news.
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Do any of the new FCC regulations apply to videos within newspapers? I subscribe to both NY Times and Wall Street Journal and it seems that more and more of their news articles are in video format. I feel like I'm paying the full price, but receiving only half the product.

I'm glad to hear CNN now has captions. Will have to check them out. I wish PBS on the Internet did, but have not had any luck there. I don't understand why because most of the TV shows have them.
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Do any of the new FCC regulations apply to videos within newspapers? I subscribe to both NY Times and Wall Street Journal and it seems that more and more of their news articles are in video format. I feel like I'm paying the full price, but receiving only half the product.

I'm glad to hear CNN now has captions. Will have to check them out. I wish PBS on the Internet did, but have not had any luck there. I don't understand why because most of the TV shows have them.
If you really want to watch PBS via internet and it has no CC, report it to FCC as long as its shows were captioned on TV.

As for newspapers' websites, if the video came from a TV news network and was closed-captioned, then it should include CC on internet. You can email FCC's rules to them to let them know. Hopefully, they will take care of it.

BTW, Foxnews.com shows video with CC, too.
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