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Old 09-14-2009, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New Closed Caption/Subtitle internet video site

If you've read some of my posts in this section of AD you'll see that over the past year or so I've put a lot of effort into finding solutions to the problem we deaf face with watching videos on your computer with Subtitles. I just got tired of seeing my friends and family watch them online but I couldn't because of the lack of Subtitles. So I started researching to see what's already out there and what might be possible. I can now watch just about any online video with subtitles.

So I started a new site that's specifically about subtitles and closed captioning for Internet video. It's far from finished. I don't even have the domain name picked out for it just yet. But here's what it'll contains.
  • Subtitle creating methods.
  • Subtitle Editing methods.
  • Subtitle searching methods and links to subtitle sites
  • Various methods to using subtitles with internet video
  • Resources and services that can create subtitles for you
  • Links to subtitled Movies and TV shows

Basically just about anything that has to do with subtitle and internet video.

What I'm asking is if any of you want to take a look and have any suggestions I'd love to hear them. I'm just trying to do my part on the issue of closed captioning of internet video and pass on what I've discovered.

Like I said. I'm still working on the design and all that. But it's up and running now. Let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions.

Click here to check it out.


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Old 09-14-2009, 01:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you've read some of my posts in this section of AD you'll see that over the past year or so I've put a lot of effort into finding solutions to the problem we deaf face with watching videos on your computer with Subtitles. I just got tired of seeing my friends and family watch them online but I couldn't because of the lack of Subtitles. So I started researching to see what's already out there and what might be possible. I can now watch just about any online video with subtitles.

So I started a new site that's specifically about subtitles and closed captioning for Internet video. It's far from finished. I don't even have the domain name picked out for it just yet. But here's what it'll contains.
  • Subtitle creating methods.
  • Subtitle Editing methods.
  • Subtitle searching methods and links to subtitle sites
  • Various methods to using subtitles with internet video
  • Resources and services that can create subtitles for you
  • Links to subtitled Movies and TV shows

Basically just about anything that has to do with subtitle and internet video.

What I'm asking is if any of you want to take a look and have any suggestions I'd love to hear them. I'm just trying to do my part on the issue of closed captioning of internet video and pass on what I've discovered.

Like I said. I'm still working on the design and all that. But it's up and running now. Let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions.

Click here to check it out.


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Here's a suggestion. You can save the captioning files and add description in between as transcription for the deafblind.

I would be happy to help you with any sort of editing and deleting.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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LOL.

That is an interesting thought though. Forgive me because I didn't think about deaf/blind. I know we've participated in a couple of discussions here too.

I'm ashamed that I didn't put much thought into how much of an issue this would be for you. I know there's "dubbing" for the blind and obviously subtitles for us deaf. I've never read about any solutions to this for online video. Are there any?

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Old 09-14-2009, 02:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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LOL.

That is an interesting thought though. Forgive me because I didn't think about deaf/blind. I know we've participated in a couple of discussions here too.

I'm ashamed that I didn't put much thought into how much of an issue this would be for you. I know there's "dubbing" for the blind and obviously subtitles for us deaf. I've never read about any solutions to this for online video. Are there any?

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Transcripts. A lot of threads with videos embedded on here have transcripts for the Deafblind members of AD which you should be able to find if you do a search of KarissaMann05 and souggy's posts. (I'm sure other people have transcribed but those two have done the majority of transcribing since I joined.)

I imagine Deaf/low vision people might benefit from videos with large print captions but I'm not sure. I know as blind/HOH I can enjoy videos with description that havve good sound clarity and don't have too much auditory overlap, and where I can turn the volume up high enough.

I really appreciate your website idea and am willing to help in any way I can.
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It depends on the nature of the clips and pictures.

If it's a slide-show or a bunch of clips stringed together with no audio, it's wise to explain what they are visually. Unfortunately I didn't see anyone do this for the video about a premature boy who grew up to learn baby signs.

If it is a music video, the lyrics and audio descriptions are sufficient. The same applies to dialogues.

If it's a visual ad, political cartoon or something that may contain of significant cultural importance, then you would need to include the transcript for the voice, describe the audio and describe visually what is going as well.

The best one for the deafblinds on AllDeaf I have seen is "Signing with Smurfs" by mandydax and "Re-defining DEAF" by buffalo. No one else paid close attention to details. Yes, KrisssaMan, Jiro, deafskeptic, jilio, kokonut have done transcript for the deafblinds, but buffalo and mandydax did top-notch quality and paid attention to details that we would not include in our own transcripts.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:48 AM   #6 (permalink)
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buffalo and mandydax did top-notch quality and paid attention to details that we would not include in our own transcripts.
I'll have to check these out!

Can you provide some links?
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Mandydax:
http://www.alldeaf.com/movies-books-...ml#post1392423

buffalo:
http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our...ml#post1368932
http://www.alldeaf.com/our-world-our...ml#post1368934

No one else paid such close attention to details like those two. I try to when I can, but no one else on the forum can compare to what buffalo and mandydax did.

Adding on about visual ads, political cartoons and important cultural pieces-- DESCRIBE EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE COLOUR. They ALL have an important role. If Obama is shown to have large elephant-like ears, include it! If there is something on the wall that is 3 letters long, INCLUDE IT! People who are trained to interpret what imagery and codexes means will be the types will describe every details of a political cartoon or drawing in their thesis papers.
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No one else paid such close attention to details like those two. I try to when I can, but no one else on the forum can compare to what buffalo and mandydax did.

Adding on about visual ads, political cartoons and important cultural pieces-- DESCRIBE EVERYTHING INCLUDING THE COLOUR. They ALL have an important role. If Obama is shown to have large elephant-like ears, include it! If there is something on the wall that is 3 letters long, INCLUDE IT! People who are trained to interpret what imagery and codexes means will be the types will describe every details of a political cartoon or drawing in their thesis papers.
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I have to agree. Mandydax and Buffalo are model transcribers.

I definitely agree on the colors. Especially in political ads where colors have semantic meaning, such as Blue = Democrat, and Red = Republican.
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I definitely agree on the colors. Especially in political ads where colors have semantic meaning, such as Blue = Democrat, and Red = Republican.
You can thank my anal-retentive professor who wanted us to describe every little details in the Aztec codexes... as well as a picture of the Virgin of Guadalupe...

That and you can thank my American history teacher, in high school, who wanted us to describe every little detail in a Soviet political cartoon of Hitler.

Broad interpretation or explanation wasn't enough for them. We had to justify everything from their haircut, to the shape of their nose, and whatever "unimportant" details that may actually be a lot more profound that people would subconsciously pick up, but would not notice.
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You can thank my anal professor who wanted us to describe every little details in the Aztec codexes... as well as a picture of the Virgin of Guadalupe...

That and you can thank my American professor who wanted us to describe every little detail in a Soviet political cartoon of Hitler.

Broad interpretation or explanation wasn't enough for them. We had to justify everything from their haircut, to the shape of their nose, and whatever "unimportant" details that may actually be a lot more profound that people would subconsciously pick up, but would not notice.
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