caption crisis

terminatorfan1 · 06-01-2009, 09:30 PM

Hey does anybody know what the hell is going on with the caption in netflix? why r they not puting any captions on the instant screening? its not fair that the normal people gets to watch the movie while we deaf and h&h people can't watch it cuz there is no captions for us to understand the movie. we have an equal rights to have captions on the netfelix screening! i use the instant one alot and its hard for me to read lips when the camra is moving alot! i just wish that they support the cc for the deaf and HOH community. For once in their life it won't hurt them. We just need to get our voice out there and b heard. im tired of fighting people who don't support cc. im having hard time enjoying movies without cc. what you guys think?
-Terminatorfan1

Bottesini · 06-01-2009, 09:34 PM

Rent a DVD and get CC.

You don't actually have a right to CC on Netflix streamed movies.

I don't even know if you are deaf, as actors don't face front all the time and it isn't possible to lipread a show .

Plus there was another new member a little earlier with the exact same complaint.

terminatorfan1 · 06-01-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Rent a DVD and get CC.

You don't actually have a right to CC on Netflix streamed movies.

I don't even know if you are deaf, as actors don't face front all the time and it isn't possible to lipread a show .

Plus there was another new member a little earlier with the exact same complaint.

yes im deaf and i read lips very well dude. i just don't like it when they don't support us when we are sitting around trying to enjoy a movie that doesn't have caption. its just plain stupid. and when the actors or actress are sometimes on front i catch pretty good but i try to keep up the chit chat and it just makes me sooo mad that we are just being injored. r u deaf Bottesini?

Bottesini · 06-01-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by terminatorfan1

yes im deaf and i read lips very well dude. i just don't like it when they don't support us when we are sitting around trying to enjoy a movie that doesn't have caption. its just plain stupid. and when the actors or actress are sometimes on front i catch pretty good but i try to keep up the chit chat and it just makes me sooo mad that we are just being injored. r u deaf Bottesini?

If you don't like it, why go out of your way to watch something that has captioning in a form where it is missing?

That is what is stupid. Just get the DVD and it has captions.

Yes, I am Deaf.

AlleyCat · 06-01-2009, 09:56 PM

And apparently you are a dude as well, Botts

I am the same way - get a DVD or watch cable movies ...

Bottesini · 06-01-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

And apparently you are a dude as well, Botts

I am the same way - get a DVD or watch cable movies ...

I didn't think I would correct that. I didn't want to give the OP too much to take in at once.

LuciaDisturbed · 06-02-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

If you don't like it, why go out of your way to watch something that has captioning in a form where it is missing?

That is what is stupid. Just get the DVD and it has captions.

Yes, I am Deaf.

I think he should be able to get CC on streamed movies on netflix, he ought to be entitled to them just the same as hearing people are. You're telling him to just get a DVD, I don't think it's fair for him to have to send away to rent DVDs when he could just watch the movies right away on his PC if they were captioned. If he has to have his netflix DVDs sent to his home because of the captioning issues he is not being treated equal as hearing people who get to watch the streamed movies on their computers right away because they can hear and understand the movies. He and the rest of us Deaf people should be treated as equal as hearing people by having captions provided to us on streamed movies. You seem to be OK with the fact that the Deaf people are being denied the right to watch STREAMED MOVIES with CAPTIONS on NETFLIX and that we should just make do with DVDs being sent to our homes or just have to watch the streamed movies with NO CAPTIONS. If hearing people get to watch and understand STREAMED MOVIES then we as Deaf people should have the same rights to the STREAMED movies by being provided captions on them so we can watch and understand the movies, regardless of the fact that they are available on DVDs. We should be able to watch streamed movies on our PCs with captions instead of having to have DVDs sent to our homes which would take a couple of days to get, because we would have equal rights as the hearing people if we can watch streamed movies with captions. Come on! I, too, would like to watch streamed netflix movies online immediately instead of having to wait for a couple of days for the movies to arrive at my home.

This isn't stupid. This is an important issue for us Deaf people. It IS important to ME, at least, as well as the OP.

Bottesini · 06-02-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LuciaDisturbed

I think he should be able to get CC on streamed movies on netflix, he ought to be entitled to them just the same as hearing people are. You're telling him to just get a DVD, I don't think it's fair for him to have to send away to rent DVDs when he could just watch the movies right away on his PC if they were captioned. If he has to have his netflix DVDs sent to his home because of the captioning issues he is not being treated equal as hearing people who get to watch the streamed movies on their computers right away because they can hear and understand the movies. He and the rest of us Deaf people should be treated as equal as hearing people by having captions provided to us on streamed movies. You seem to be OK with the fact that the Deaf people are being denied the right to watch STREAMED MOVIES with CAPTIONS and that we should just make do with DVDs being sent to our homes or just have to watch the streamed movies with NO CAPTIONS. If hearing people get to watch and understand STREAMED MOVIES then we as Deaf people should have the same rights to the STREAMED movies by being provided captions on them so we can watch and understand the movies, regardless of the fact that they are available on DVDs. We should be able to watch streamed movies on our PCs with captions instead of having to have DVDs sent to our homes which would take a couple of days to get, because we would have equal rights as the hearing people if we can watch streamed movies with captions. Come on! I, too, would like to watch streamed netflix movies online immediately instead of having to wait for a couple of days for the movies to arrive at my home.

This isn't stupid. This is an important issue for us Deaf people. It IS important to ME, at least, as well as the OP.

No, my point was it is not a right . I am sure it would be nice to have, but it is not a right.

I am not that interested in watching movies as I read more that watch movies. It just seemed a little weird for a new person to come in an urge everyone to a hostile action.

If someone wanted to wage a polite campaign, it would be a different matter.

Plus when a new poster comes on asking people to jump on some cause, I usually wonder if they have some ulterior motive. In other words I wonder if they have some vested interest.

I am not against captioning on streamed movies.

LuciaDisturbed · 06-02-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

No, my point was it is not a right . I am sure it would be nice to have, but it is not a right.

I know, but it ought to be a right.

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I am not that interested in watching movies as I read more that watch movies. It just seemed a little weird for a new person to come in an urge everyone to a hostile action.

If someone wanted to wage a polite campaign, it would be a different matter.

I don't advocate hostile action but I do advocate action to push for netflix to caption their streamed movies.

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Plus when a new poster comes on asking people to jump on some cause, I usually wonder if they have some ulterior motive. In other words I wonder if they have some vested interest.

Maybe he's just new to AD and was just looking for a Deaf-related forum and found this one so he could talk about this issue. He's entitled to that much.

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I am not against captioning on streamed movies.

Yeah, but you're not supportive of us having the right to watch Netflix's streamed movies WITH captions.

Bottesini · 06-02-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LuciaDisturbed

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Yeah, but you're not supportive of us having the right to watch Netflix's streamed movies WITH captions.

If you want it to be a right you are going to need to make it a law, and that does not mean lobbying Netflix.

That needs to go through the government.

LuciaDisturbed · 06-02-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

If you want it to be a right you are going to need to make it a law, and that does not mean lobbying Netflix.

That needs to go through the government.

I agree. The OP probably did not know or realize this. When I said we should be pushing Netflix I don't mean lobbying but we should be (all of us Deafies) asking Netflix for it, they should be getting a very high demand of CC'd streamed videos from us, if they got a very high demand of CC'd streamed movies from us they might feel the pressure to CC them and they might do that. High demand does produce results. I mean, I have read about other things where there is a demand for equal access of some kind and I have seen it produce good results. That can happen here too.

But, yes, if we want to make it a law we should go through the government.

Bottesini · 06-02-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LuciaDisturbed

I agree. The OP probably did not know or realize this. When I said we should be pushing Netflix I don't mean lobbying but we should be (all of us Deafies) asking Netflix for it, they should be getting a very high demand of CC'd streamed videos from us, if they got a very high demand of CC'd streamed movies from us they might feel the pressure to CC them and they might do that. High demand does produce results. I mean, I have read about other things where there is a demand for equal access of some kind and I have seen it produce good results. That can happen here too.

But, yes, if we want to make it a law we should go through the government.

I am old and cynical, but I feel there are not enough of us as a percentage of their consumers, to make them take us seriously.

Writing to your congressman would probably help more.

I grew up before CC, so to me what we have now is pretty fantastic.

And I also learned growing up, that protesting anything can get you hurt.

There are more rights for people now under the ADA, so my leftover attitude of fear of making waves is kind of outmoded.

We only have one captioned movie theater in my town. Requiring all theaters to have every movie with a showing in OC would be more a cause I would like to get behind.

sara1981 · 06-02-2009, 11:14 AM

my vote says yes!!

im raise deaf when i was baby at 10 month old but i have rightsful for CC to watch movie or tv if no CC for movies i will setups subtitle for CC as english its so simples!!

my family never know how to setup CC but i can doit!! my parents knew it.

Etoile · 06-02-2009, 11:15 AM

Yes, I definitely want captions on Netflix! It is not a "right" but it would be nice if they allowed it. Or maybe some kind of account where we don't get to have streaming movies, but it costs less. (After all, why pay for something you cannot use?)

The real answer, though, is to have captions put in. I read somewhere about it being a technical issue, that they can't put it into the digital programming, but I don't see why it would be hard...you can download a movie and then apply the SRT file to it. They just need to incorporate an SRT processor into their player somehow.

terminatorfan1 · 06-08-2009, 09:46 PM

I totally agree with Lucia Disturbed. we need to fight for whats right and we should all have equal rights as everyone else. We both hate to wait for movies to come to our house while there is instant screening that normal people use alot to see the movie right away because they don't have a problem with hearing the movie...but we do. Not alot of movies have CC. there are alot of movies i know that don't provide CC at all. This is another reason why we should fight for CC on screening. we don't have alot of choices like the hearing people do, what we have is limited. we either watch the damn movie with CC or without CC or not watch the movie at all becuase of CC. This what bugs me the most. I hate having to have to choose based on what we have or don't have.
We have to figure out a way to get through a goverment or the head of neflix or something to get our rights to have cc anywhere and on sceening. We have the right to fight or do something that makes us feel discrimiated or left out. Just becuase i'm new here mr. bottesini, doesn't mean i am trying to get in a hostle action im just simply trying to whats right for us. our kind need something more to satify our needs. im just trying to point out what the problem and try to solve it with any means neccesary. just to let you know dude, im one hell of a fighter.

terminatorfan1 · 06-08-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sara1981

my vote says yes!!

im raise deaf when i was baby at 10 month old but i have rightsful for CC to watch movie or tv if no CC for movies i will setups subtitle for CC as english its so simples!!

my family never know how to setup CC but i can doit!! my parents knew it.

I know you can put CC on tv and movies with subtiltes sara1981, but there are some tv and movies that won't allow you to do that. I have been there. some good shows or movies on tv won't support CC even if you try to put subtiltes on. But thats why im here to figure out what the problem is and try to prevent this from happing. We should all have subtiltes/CC anywhere and anytime on any channel. Old movies or tv from like the year 91 or something, subtiltes/CC won't work on them. Trust me, i tried. But if you figure it out Sara1981 than good for you, maybe you can help us.

-Terminatorfan1

terminatorfan1 · 06-08-2009, 10:21 PM

what do you guys think? i need more ideas...How do we get attention to our cause about CC on instant screening? Lucia Disturbed..got any? anybody else? Let me know cuz this is driving me insane! Thanks for talking about this with me. i think im getting better but not there yet. So...come on what's on ur minds. lol

chuck2975 · 06-09-2009, 06:43 AM

I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to!

~*Kaelei*~ · 06-09-2009, 04:42 PM

I totally hate it when DVDs don't provide subtitles or Captions.... it really irks me. That's why I don't go to Movie Theaters often and I only rent DVD's that only have Closed Caption or subtitles.

MoonDrifter · 06-09-2009, 05:18 PM

It gets frustrating when my bro rents foreign movies that don't have subtitles. Most of them had good storylines and we were put off by not being able to understand some/most of the dialogue in the movies. I don't go to theaters cause they charge too much per person and rarely offer CC in the films that I want to watch. So I just wait for the DVDs to come out. Usually by then I forget about the movie, therefore the reason why I don't watch a lot.

LDNanna · 06-10-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck2975

I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to!

AMEN! Me too! It isn't a right, but if you want the business of a certain clientel (SP?) you must cater to that client. As a deaf client, I would like more CC items. How many D/d eaf people would love to have a fully captioned dvd rental base? I know I would. Netflix has movies in other languages, but not CC'd. I asked them about this months ago and got no reply. After waiting a very long time, I just cancelled with a good, long explanation of why. I guess this isn't the only forum to be discussing this issue. I was recently "using the phone" my i711 relay, and there is a new article on this subject there.

i711.com - Relay & Beyond

There is also an article on hearinginformed.org, Jamie Berke's about.com blog, and many others. I think this is now officially a Deaf topic. Ha, I think deaf network.com was by far the worst in the treatment of Netflix, calling a CEO an "Insensitive Bastard" after attending a share holder's meeting.

This is my favorite quote from the article "I then mentioned Netflix’s failure to add captions/subtitles to its online streaming videos. Netflix’s "instant play" option doesn’t include captions, making its online video option unusable for many users. As a result of not offering captions, Netflix is alienating its hearing-impaired, deaf, and senior citizen customers. According to some estimates, there are 34 million hearing-impaired persons in the United States. One would think Netflix would think better than to alienate such a large customer base."

A coworker rightly pointed out that Netflix caters to many demographics of marketing, glbt/trans, hispanic, foreign, so why shouldn't they want our money too? Pretty good point for a Hearie.

Moon-child · 06-12-2009, 07:23 PM

I love documentaries, but many are not cc or subtitled. Go ahead and rant newbie, we all need to once in awhile.

terminatorfan1 · 06-15-2009, 09:38 PM

Hell Yeah! i don't like it either chuck2975, i don't know whats wrong with the captions that happends to screw up alot but it ticks me off too man. I totally agree with you every movie and tv should have captions wither or not we want to watch it you know what i mean? But not all dvd have CC or subtiles. If we have a favorite movie or movie we wanted to see sooo bad happends to not have CC or subtiles at all. That would suck! This is why we should talk about this. It just bugs me when a great movie comes by and we will never understand it becuase there is no CC for support. We should enjoy the movie like everyone else with CC or subtiles. Right guys?
Nan Matthew im happy you tried to talk to the neflix guys about this problem but do you have any idea why they haven't respond to you yet? and i totally agree with the article you have written here as well. I wounder why they don't listen to our complains and don't do anything about it. they are a "Insensitive Bastards" all right. But i think a little ranting will do us all good. i think we need to rant a little bit right moon-child?

terminatorfan1 · 06-15-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck2975

I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to!

Hell Yeah! I totally agree with you Chuck2975. I don't know how this happend everytime i watch a tv or movie the captions screws up and i get lost in the conversation and it really ticks me off too man. I really don't know why this happens but it does and i don't know who to complain to either. i also agree with you about having every tv and movie to have CC'd. this is why we should talk about this. Every movie and Tv should have CC. i couldn't agree with you more man.

LDNanna · 06-16-2009, 12:27 AM

No, I have no idea why they did not respond. I finally cancelled. If they don't need my money, I am happy to keep it. ha - or spend it somewhere else.
I am glad that you enjoyed the post. It's nice to have a "a voice".

whatdidyousay! · 06-16-2009, 08:46 PM

We could tell netflix we're going to boycott them till they get CC! That may get netflix attention!

whatdidyousay! · 06-16-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by terminatorfan1

Hell Yeah! I totally agree with you Chuck2975. I don't know how this happend everytime i watch a tv or movie the captions screws up and i get lost in the conversation and it really ticks me off too man. I really don't know why this happens but it does and i don't know who to complain to either. i also agree with you about having every tv and movie to have CC'd. this is why we should talk about this. Every movie and Tv should have CC. i couldn't agree with you more man.

Yeah , I just realize I could watch a station , but they do not have CC! It channel 20 on Comcast in Ma. I did email one station as their CC was not working and I got an email back saying they were sorry and wanted to what I was watching. I guess eveyone know if there is an emergency in your town and it come on TV is has to in be CC !

coolgirlspyer90 · 07-10-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ~*Kaelei*~

I totally hate it when DVDs don't provide subtitles or Captions.... it really irks me. That's why I don't go to Movie Theaters often and I only rent DVD's that only have Closed Caption or subtitles.

aye aye! same here. especially with movie theaters. They dont have captionings. and that movie theaters rarely have any CC or subtitles for us deafies to understand. I just wait for the DVDs. My family always urges me to go to the movie theater with them to watch a movie. But most of the time i don't really want to go because to me its not even worth watching a movie without any closed captioning or subtitles. Movie theaters are just another advantage against us.

But anywhoo... My family never had rented a movie or DVD from netflix. But I do think they need to have closed captioning or subtitles on. Even though it is not a RIGHT for nexflix to have closed captioning avaliable for us. I just rather get a DVD from the libary or buy one from target or wal-mart.

We do need to actually give this some thought about it. I mean, I was born hearing but now i lost my hearing when i was 3 years old due to auto immune hearing loss. And I do believe in deaf and hearing culture. The little things that bugs me about the advantage of being deaf if its wether its captionings, interpreters, hearing aids or cochlear implant problems, or discriminations against us from hearing people or from businesses. But we should be lucky to even have these rights from the NAD (national association of the deaf) and the ADA (Association Disability Act) that they gave us. Sometimes we should move on and forget about it and sometimes we can fight against whatever problems we will have in the future. These little changes that we can do can maybe change the views in hearing people. Trust me, I have.

sorry if i am off-topic

coolgirlspyer90 · 07-10-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

We could tell netflix we're going to boycott them till they get CC! That may get netflix attention!

But they have hearing consumers. That will not stop them for not getting CC for us. I think that we should give them an reasonable explanation why they need to have CC for us deaf because it is not fair and that it is an advantagement.

By the way I did a little researching from the NAD,

The FCC (Federal Communications Commiissions) also applied a requirement to computers equipped with television circuitry sold together with monitors that have a viewable pictures at least 13 inches in diameter. Digital televisions (dtv) tuners, and set top boxes (used to provied satalites, cable and other subscriptions( regardless of screen size. WIth these are marketed or sold. The Telivision Decoder Circuitry Act also requires the FCC to ensure that Closed Captions services are continued to be avaliable to consumers as New technology developed.

More than 1,600 comments about closed captioning were filed with the FCC, mostly by indiviual consumers.

The FCC also sought comments on the following areas:
Non- technological quality standards,
techical quality standards for CC,
monoitoring of captioning,
complaint proceders,
accesibility of contact information,
standardized FCC form complaint form for consumers,
fines and penalities for failures to captions,
requirements for compliments reports by broadcasters,
avalibility of captioners to provide live and pre-broadcast captions.

The TDCA in 1990 and the mandate for closed caption of television viewing illustrate the growing tend torward equal access to television for deaf and HOH

hope some of this helped. I'm just really intrested in these kind of stuff with the ADA laws..

terminatorfan1 · 08-05-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nan_Mathews

No, I have no idea why they did not respond. I finally cancelled. If they don't need my money, I am happy to keep it. ha - or spend it somewhere else.
I am glad that you enjoyed the post. It's nice to have a "a voice".

Hey Nan im glad that you are trying your hardest to talk to the neflix company. i know you tried and you had to cancelled but im glad you did it because so we can figure out how to movate them to change their damn minds about CC on neflix screening and dvds. At least you get to keep your money dude. lol. Yeah i know you like to have "a voice." and i feel you to man thats why im here.

It still pisses me off thought but in know in my gut that one day our time will come and we will get what we were fighting for.
I tried emailing them and they didn't respond to my message. Makes me want to kick their asses! I just wish someone normal can pay attention and listen to what we have to say. Anyway, thanks for cheering me up and the rest of us for trying to get them to talk...but it doesn't mean we should stop what we are doing but we should just keep doing what we can about this situation.

View Poll Results: Do you think we should fight just to have cc on netflix once and for all?
yes! We should indefinitely!	13	92.86%
Maybe we should fight for it?	0	0%
IDK i just don't care	1	7.14%
Hell NO! we are just fine where we are.	0	0%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

06-01-2009, 09:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
terminatorfan1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 14	caption crisis Hey does anybody know what the hell is going on with the caption in netflix? why r they not puting any captions on the instant screening? its not fair that the normal people gets to watch the movie while we deaf and h&h people can't watch it cuz there is no captions for us to understand the movie. we have an equal rights to have captions on the netfelix screening! i use the instant one alot and its hard for me to read lips when the camra is moving alot! i just wish that they support the cc for the deaf and HOH community. For once in their life it won't hurt them. We just need to get our voice out there and b heard. im tired of fighting people who don't support cc. im having hard time enjoying movies without cc. what you guys think? -Terminatorfan1

06-01-2009, 09:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bottesini Bodhar agus leath dall Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of dog pack Posts: 16,083	Rent a DVD and get CC. You don't actually have a right to CC on Netflix streamed movies. I don't even know if you are deaf, as actors don't face front all the time and it isn't possible to lipread a show . Plus there was another new member a little earlier with the exact same complaint. __________________ It's a joke Nathan!

06-02-2009, 11:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
sara1981 Pandy the Beagle Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 4,834	my vote says yes!! im raise deaf when i was baby at 10 month old but i have rightsful for CC to watch movie or tv if no CC for movies i will setups subtitle for CC as english its so simples!! my family never know how to setup CC but i can doit!! my parents knew it. __________________ WWE Dave Batista

06-02-2009, 11:15 AM	#14 (permalink)
Etoile legally married :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts: 1,091	Yes, I definitely want captions on Netflix! It is not a "right" but it would be nice if they allowed it. Or maybe some kind of account where we don't get to have streaming movies, but it costs less. (After all, why pay for something you cannot use?) The real answer, though, is to have captions put in. I read somewhere about it being a technical issue, that they can't put it into the digital programming, but I don't see why it would be hard...you can download a movie and then apply the SRT file to it. They just need to incorporate an SRT processor into their player somehow. __________________ "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." -Gandhi

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06-01-2009, 09:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
AlleyCat Chicken in a Cat Suit Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,736	And apparently you are a dude as well, Botts I am the same way - get a DVD or watch cable movies ...

06-08-2009, 09:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
terminatorfan1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 14	I totally agree with Lucia Disturbed. we need to fight for whats right and we should all have equal rights as everyone else. We both hate to wait for movies to come to our house while there is instant screening that normal people use alot to see the movie right away because they don't have a problem with hearing the movie...but we do. Not alot of movies have CC. there are alot of movies i know that don't provide CC at all. This is another reason why we should fight for CC on screening. we don't have alot of choices like the hearing people do, what we have is limited. we either watch the damn movie with CC or without CC or not watch the movie at all becuase of CC. This what bugs me the most. I hate having to have to choose based on what we have or don't have. We have to figure out a way to get through a goverment or the head of neflix or something to get our rights to have cc anywhere and on sceening. We have the right to fight or do something that makes us feel discrimiated or left out. Just becuase i'm new here mr. bottesini, doesn't mean i am trying to get in a hostle action im just simply trying to whats right for us. our kind need something more to satify our needs. im just trying to point out what the problem and try to solve it with any means neccesary. just to let you know dude, im one hell of a fighter.

06-08-2009, 10:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
terminatorfan1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 14	what do you guys think? i need more ideas...How do we get attention to our cause about CC on instant screening? Lucia Disturbed..got any? anybody else? Let me know cuz this is driving me insane! Thanks for talking about this with me. i think im getting better but not there yet. So...come on what's on ur minds. lol

06-09-2009, 06:43 AM	#18 (permalink)
chuck2975 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 46	I won't rent a movie unless it has CC on it. My TV is set up for Closed captioning. I wouldnt have it any other way. I stopped netflix because they weren't cc. My personal opinion is that every movie and tv show should be CC'd. What ticks me off is when sometimes Im watching TV and the CC is garbled and only a few correct letters appear. I never understood why that happens. Worse - I don't know who to complain to! __________________ Fate chooses your relations, you choose your friends.

06-09-2009, 04:42 PM	#19 (permalink)
~Kaelei~ Wishing Upon A Star Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, Washington Posts: 1,354	I totally hate it when DVDs don't provide subtitles or Captions.... it really irks me. That's why I don't go to Movie Theaters often and I only rent DVD's that only have Closed Caption or subtitles. __________________

06-09-2009, 05:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
MoonDrifter Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Hillsboro Posts: 1,140 Blog Entries: 1	It gets frustrating when my bro rents foreign movies that don't have subtitles. Most of them had good storylines and we were put off by not being able to understand some/most of the dialogue in the movies. I don't go to theaters cause they charge too much per person and rarely offer CC in the films that I want to watch. So I just wait for the DVDs to come out. Usually by then I forget about the movie, therefore the reason why I don't watch a lot.

06-12-2009, 07:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Moon-child Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 536	I love documentaries, but many are not cc or subtitled. Go ahead and rant newbie, we all need to once in awhile.

06-15-2009, 09:38 PM	#23 (permalink)
terminatorfan1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: AZ Posts: 14	Hell Yeah! i don't like it either chuck2975, i don't know whats wrong with the captions that happends to screw up alot but it ticks me off too man. I totally agree with you every movie and tv should have captions wither or not we want to watch it you know what i mean? But not all dvd have CC or subtiles. If we have a favorite movie or movie we wanted to see sooo bad happends to not have CC or subtiles at all. That would suck! This is why we should talk about this. It just bugs me when a great movie comes by and we will never understand it becuase there is no CC for support. We should enjoy the movie like everyone else with CC or subtiles. Right guys? Nan Matthew im happy you tried to talk to the neflix guys about this problem but do you have any idea why they haven't respond to you yet? and i totally agree with the article you have written here as well. I wounder why they don't listen to our complains and don't do anything about it. they are a "Insensitive Bastards" all right. But i think a little ranting will do us all good. i think we need to rant a little bit right moon-child?

06-16-2009, 12:27 AM	#25 (permalink)
LDNanna Everything purple is mine Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 891	No, I have no idea why they did not respond. I finally cancelled. If they don't need my money, I am happy to keep it. ha - or spend it somewhere else. I am glad that you enjoyed the post. It's nice to have a "a voice".

06-16-2009, 08:46 PM	#26 (permalink)
whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 751	We could tell netflix we're going to boycott them till they get CC! That may get netflix attention!

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