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Old 07-10-2008, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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captioning vs signing

I am a video producer that is working with others on a product that would allow a sign language interpreters to be seen at the bottom of the screen for video.

We are curious if this is an application that we should continue to develop or is it superfluous technology. My question is simple... Would the deaf community rather read captions or watch a sign language interpreter for their video needs? (i.e. news, video classes, television programming)

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Personally I prefer captions because frequently the "interpreter in a bubble" is too small. I can't read fingerspelling when they are so small. If they were bigger on the screen that would be okay.
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There are non signing deaf. Lots of late deafened people. Captioning is more equitable.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Captioning and interpreting serve 2 different purposes. Captioning is a transcript of the language being spoken. Signing is interpreting the spoken language into another language. They really aren't interchangeable.
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Captioning and interpreting serve 2 different purposes. Captioning is a transcript of the language being spoken. Signing is interpreting the spoken language into another language. They really aren't interchangeable.
I understand that they are not interchangeable, however what we are evaluating is if there is a need for sign language interpreters. We have spoken to people that have a preference for one over another. Though this is hardly what you would call a representative example.

Our target audience is the sign language using population. Captioning is certainly one way to present language, however it is not the only way. We are simply curious if sign language is something that users would welcome.

The size of the interpreter is certainly a concern. We would present an interpreter that can be understood.

Are there any applications or genres signers would prefer an interpreter to captioning?
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I prefer caption.
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I prefer captioning, toddsouth, providing the captioner can spell correctly and not do it phonetically.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey toddsouth....it depends who you ask. High Visual Deaf would most times prefer the interpreter bc their English is at the level of K-2 grade. There are plenty of Deaf with good English, but there are also many with such bad English skills that they don't really understand captioning....therefore the interpreter box would serve them better.
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Hey toddsouth....it depends who you ask. High Visual Deaf would most times prefer the interpreter bc their English is at the level of K-2 grade. There are plenty of Deaf with good English, but there are also many with such bad English skills that they don't really understand captioning....therefore the interpreter box would serve them better.
Very true.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I love captioning. I won't miss it at all unlike signing. I went to
post-grad school, sometimes I missed what they are saying by my deaf friends; also sometimes an interpreter forget to tell me that who are saying. however,
an interpreter with face head like left and right that next person speaker.
In real-time captioning does have ">>" is better than ASL interpreter.
I have sensitive attention on deaf culture that how quality looks on those captioning/interpreting.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I rather watch captioning. The vocabulary for signing is very limited while the vocabulary for captioning is the same as what's being spoken.

You see everything that's being said too.
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I rather watch captioning. The vocabulary for signing is very limited while the vocabulary for captioning is the same as what's being spoken.

You see everything that's being said too.
Exactly!
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I can only speak for me. I have lost most of my hearing in less than two years and do not sign. Although I have thought about learning, in reality, my workplace and family/friends do not sign. So, I would be talking to myself.
For me, I love CC (if done correctly). I will even settle for close to correct as long as I can understand what is going on.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Captioning is a godsend!! Captioning in Tvs and captioned phones like Captel/WebCaptel really makes the day!!

Yes, there are times live captioning has mistakes involved, usually because of similarities in the sounds of words (hear/here), but I can forgive it as long as most is correct. I can usually piece the rest together or ask for clarification (captioned phones)
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I actually have captioning to thank for my increase in speed-reading skills.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I actually have captioning to thank for my increase in speed-reading skills.
Absolutely. I have used captioning consistently since my son was 5 years old. It has helped tremendously with his reading skills from the 1st grade on. Even just the recognition of one or two words at that age helps reading proficiency.
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I am a video producer that is working with others on a product that would allow a sign language interpreters to be seen at the bottom of the screen for video.

We are curious if this is an application that we should continue to develop or is it superfluous technology. My question is simple... Would the deaf community rather read captions or watch a sign language interpreter for their video needs? (i.e. news, video classes, television programming)

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
I prefer Captioning myself. If its more like you got on a dvd it will be excellent. The interpreter in the bottom is annoying and hard to see. Maybe you can have an option for both and just let the users choose?
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:04 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Captioning and interpreting serve 2 different purposes. Captioning is a transcript of the language being spoken. Signing is interpreting the spoken language into another language. They really aren't interchangeable.
PERFECT ANSWER!

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Old 07-20-2008, 03:06 PM   #19 (permalink)
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As usual, Jillo knows her stuff.
She always does. Have a drink?

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I do wish to see more interpreters in the 'bubbles'. I remember as a child I used to watch live court (local) because they had an intepreter (who I later would meet as she would be my high school teacher). Imagine that. A child watching live local court rather than cartoons.
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I second what Jillio said. They really serve two purposes and in an ideal world we would have both.

Also, consider your audience. One of my pet peeves is all the captioning on the children's shows. Even the hearing kids can't read well enough and fast enough to catch it all. We need to see signers on Blue's Clues and Sesame Street. Adding the captioning as well, does support literacy development, but still allows the children access to the language through the signer.
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I don't know sign, even though I have been hoh since I was 5. I live in a hearing community and have never been around other hoh or deaf people so sign is not really helpful to me. That being said, I love captions! I love reading everything! I am a super fast reader so I can follow along with almost anything. I understand that it would be a tough decision to make though.
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I don't know sign, even though I have been hoh since I was 5. I live in a hearing community and have never been around other hoh or deaf people so sign is not really helpful to me. That being said, I love captions! I love reading everything! I am a super fast reader so I can follow along with almost anything. I understand that it would be a tough decision to make though.
What you just said makes me curious about the reason for your foray onto this site.
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What you just said makes me curious about the reason for your foray onto this site.
I have seen quite a few oral deaf around here...I don't have a problem with it. I think of AD as a "deaf" forum with a mostly "Deaf" population discussing largely "Deaf" issues but certainly with "deaf" members and content as well.
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I have seen quite a few oral deaf around here...I don't have a problem with it. I think of AD as a "deaf" forum with a mostly "Deaf" population discussing largely "Deaf" issues but certainly with "deaf" members and content as well.
I don't have a problem with it, either; just because I asked doesn't mean I'm zeroing in on anything negative. Everyone is different so I simply asked out of curiosity. I also do not like the D/d stuff unless its technical for a purpose limited in scope because, by and large, it doesn't get us anywhere in terms of us being "one big happy family".
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As usual, Jillo knows her stuff.
Aww...thanks, deafbajagal. I try. But I am not above mistakes.
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I don't have a problem with it, either; just because I asked doesn't mean I'm zeroing in on anything negative. Everyone is different so I simply asked out of curiosity. I also do not like the D/d stuff unless its technical for a purpose limited in scope because, by and large, it doesn't get us anywhere in terms of us being "one big happy family".
Agreed. Sometimes the distinctions are necessary for technical purposes, but for social purposes, they really aren't.