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AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

More what?

What "broad range" of topics must I understand?

**Reba** · 03-19-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

What "broad range" of topics must I understand?

Everything on the planet, and then some.

History

Literature

Science

Art

Current events

Medicine

Geography

Technology

Pop culture

How's that for starters?

Anij · 03-19-2008, 10:31 AM

^ because these topics will be what your interpreting.

it's much easier to spell, describe, interpret topics which you know the "lingo" to.

AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 11:05 AM

Oh yes...that's common sense. Everyone should (must) know a little about everything. I welcome such a requirement. I love to expand my horizons.

AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 11:06 AM

Question: Is it a rule that only the Deaf can issue a name sign to a new signer (h)?

Anij · 03-19-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

Question: Is it a rule that only the Deaf can issue a name sign to a new signer (h)?

The short answer - Yes,(for both Hearing and hh/D who don't have an existing name sign, or have one which needs to be modified) and only once you're involved in the community and the Deaf community knows you. Even then, there are people who have been involved in the Deaf community for a VERY long time (hearing or Deaf) who do not have name signs. So they aren't "issued" to new signers ... they sort of 'happen' to some people that have been in the Deaf Community. (General Rule)

I don't have one ( my name is so easy to fingerspell there's not really a lot of point)

AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anij

The short answer - Yes,(for both Hearing and hh/D who don't have an existing name sign, or have one which needs to be modified) and only once you're involved in the community and the Deaf community knows you. Even then, there are people who have been involved in the Deaf community for a VERY long time (hearing or Deaf) who do not have name signs. So they aren't "issued" to new signers ... they sort of 'happen' to some people that have been in the Deaf Community. (General Rule)

I don't have one ( my name is so easy to fingerspell there's not really a lot of point)

Interesting.

**Reba** · 03-19-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Anij

^ because these topics will be what your interpreting.

it's much easier to spell, describe, interpret topics which you know the "lingo" to.

Right-o!

Add to that, proper pronunciation when voicing.

Examples:

Wagner

Spokane

Thames River (England) (Tems)

Thames River (Connecticut) (Thames)

zoology (not "zoo")

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

bas relief

Anij · 03-19-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

Interesting.

If you haven't read it , you might be interested looking at the introduction to "The Book of Name Signs" which gives some background on Name Signs.

**Reba** · 03-19-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Anij

If you haven't read it , you might be interested looking at the introduction to "The Book of Name Signs" which gives some background on Name Signs.

I second that suggestion. It's a very good book.

For AB, the author of the book is Samuel J. Supalla, and the publisher is DawnSignPress (ISBN:0-915035-30-8).

AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 12:18 PM

AquaBlue · 03-19-2008, 12:21 PM

I found the book on my library website; I requested it.

Anij · 03-19-2008, 02:30 PM

Thanks Reba - I was looking for it ( I have it ) but it was under a pile of textbooks ....

I actually use it to assign ( and keep track of ) the arbitrary name signs we assign (temporarily, for in class use only) for all my theologians and authors who aren't given one. Martin Luther is one of the few who has a NS

**Reba** · 03-19-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anij

Thanks Reba - I was looking for it ( I have it ) but it was under a pile of textbooks ....

I actually use it to assign ( and keep track of ) the arbitrary name signs we assign (temporarily, for in class use only) for all my theologians and authors who aren't given one. Martin Luther is one of the few who has a NS

That book does come in handy.

Thanks to Hubby's construction skills, I have enough shelving to keep my books organized now.

Anij · 03-19-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That book does come in handy.

Thanks to Hubby's construction skills, I have enough shelving to keep my books organized now.

Yep ! I stick mini post-it notes by the ANS

There's never enough room for books ... I have a wall of books ... and it's just not enough space even then ...

jillio · 03-19-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That book does come in handy.

Thanks to Hubby's construction skills, I have enough shelving to keep my books organized now.

I need to borrow your husband....my books are EVERYWHERE!

My study looks like a tornado hit it most of the time! I tell everyone it is organized disorganization.

Sorry....back on topic now!

RDC_girl · 03-19-2008, 11:23 PM

A name sign is an amazing gift from someone in the Deaf Community, atleast it was for me... There is a story behind it, which makes it more personal... I never use it, I always fingerspell my name, its 5 letters and easy to spell

Its nice to have though...

AquaBlue · 03-20-2008, 04:27 AM

I learn about 420 sign words per month. That's 14 or 15 sign words a day, everyday.

Not too shabby.

Etoile · 03-20-2008, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

I learn about 420 sign words per month. That's 14 or 15 sign words a day, everyday.

Not too shabby.

What is your definition of "learn" here? Could you have a conversation using these words? Could you remember these words on a test? Do you remember what the 27th word you learned was? Honestly I'm not sure that you're "learning" anything if all you are learning is words. Just because I know the words desayuno, gato, trabajo, tener, parque, calle, marque, playa, meses, etc. does not mean I have "learned" Spanish...I can't recognize those words in context, I can't use them in sentences, I can't have a conversation with a Spanish speaker, I can't use them colloquially. You have taught yourself more ASL signs than I have taught myself Spanish words, but the result is the same: can you really talk to anybody with what you know? Memorizing words is not nearly as useful as learning a language. In fact, if you don't know how to use the words, what good are they?

I'm not trying to discourage you. I'm just trying to point out that you really need to take a class and interact with deaf people before you will have "learned" anything that will help you with becoming an interpreter. I know your class got canceled, but you should look for other places that might offer classes, like a local parks-and-rec center, a local community center, etc.

Anij · 03-20-2008, 10:11 AM

YUP !!!
I'd much rather know, learn , live, breathe and be able to fully use only 500 signs, than hypothetically have"learned" 2000 out of a book without understanding how they are integrated into the language !

(I know about 100 Greek and Latin words which I can 'insert' into English sentences in the correct way - meaning I can use the greek diaconos etc, in fact I can even identify words randomly in latin and greek and hebrew texts ... but I'm certainly not even slightly fluent in Greek, latin or Hebrew - there's a pile of difference)

interpreter · 03-20-2008, 02:04 PM

I have been waiting for someone to ask this!

You have "learned" signs, but do you know ASL?

jillio · 03-20-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by interpreter

I have been waiting for someone to ask this!

You have "learned" signs, but do you know ASL?

The million dollar question!

Schermy · 03-20-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by interpreter

I have been waiting for someone to ask this!

You have "learned" signs, but do you know ASL?

Wellllllllllll.............that's like saying that you read a book about making pottery and now you know how to do it!

AquaBlue · 03-20-2008, 03:27 PM

In all fairness I could only find ONE Deaf gathering so far; and it's on the 28th. I can't bring that date closer to now, nor can I find more gatherings in this city.

The ONLY way to "learn" ASL is via the Deaf culture. But what am I going to do in the meanwhile? I only have books and videos to teach me. Nothing else. I am not going to sit on my hands and do nothing. I will gain some benefit from my current study on sign vocabulary. It may not be the best way to learn ASL but it is all I have now.

I don"t know where the deaf people gather around here. If I did I would join their party and start learning about ASL. Don't you all think I would jump at the chance?? My hands are tied so I must learn via books until I can finally join in a gatering. Be fair with me please.

***VamPyroX*** · 03-20-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

I learn about 420 sign words per month. That's 14 or 15 sign words a day, everyday.

Not too shabby.

Are you actually learning or memorizing?

AquaBlue · 03-20-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Are you actually learning or memorizing?

Good question. Answer: Both!

AquaBlue · 03-20-2008, 04:14 PM

Familiarity (overview) = memory (association) = learning (knowledge) = application (wisdom) = command (mastery).

***VamPyroX*** · 03-20-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaBlue

Good question. Answer: Both!

Equally or are you memorizing more than learning?

AquaBlue · 03-20-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Equally or are you memorizing more than learning?

When you truly remember something you automatically learn it, or begin to learn it- engrave it into your mind.

But that is only the start.

Once you have gained that knowledge, you start applying it (Deaf gathering participation); and in time (more association/involvement) you begin to take command of the subject.

**Reba** · 03-20-2008, 04:48 PM

AB, which colleges are within commuting distance to you?

Which public school district do you live in?

03-19-2008, 11:05 AM	#454 (permalink)
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03-19-2008, 10:31 AM	#453 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	^ because these topics will be what your interpreting. it's much easier to spell, describe, interpret topics which you know the "lingo" to.

03-19-2008, 02:30 PM	#463 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	Thanks Reba - I was looking for it ( I have it ) but it was under a pile of textbooks .... I actually use it to assign ( and keep track of ) the arbitrary name signs we assign (temporarily, for in class use only) for all my theologians and authors who aren't given one. Martin Luther is one of the few who has a NS

03-19-2008, 11:23 PM	#467 (permalink)
RDC_girl Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 489	A name sign is an amazing gift from someone in the Deaf Community, atleast it was for me... There is a story behind it, which makes it more personal... I never use it, I always fingerspell my name, its 5 letters and easy to spell Its nice to have though...

03-20-2008, 10:11 AM	#470 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	YUP !!! I'd much rather know, learn , live, breathe and be able to fully use only 500 signs, than hypothetically have"learned" 2000 out of a book without understanding how they are integrated into the language ! (I know about 100 Greek and Latin words which I can 'insert' into English sentences in the correct way - meaning I can use the greek diaconos etc, in fact I can even identify words randomly in latin and greek and hebrew texts ... but I'm certainly not even slightly fluent in Greek, latin or Hebrew - there's a pile of difference)

03-20-2008, 02:04 PM	#471 (permalink)
interpreter Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 33	I have been waiting for someone to ask this! You have "learned" signs, but do you know ASL?

03-20-2008, 03:27 PM	#474 (permalink)
AquaBlue Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 2,031	In all fairness I could only find ONE Deaf gathering so far; and it's on the 28th. I can't bring that date closer to now, nor can I find more gatherings in this city. The ONLY way to "learn" ASL is via the Deaf culture. But what am I going to do in the meanwhile? I only have books and videos to teach me. Nothing else. I am not going to sit on my hands and do nothing. I will gain some benefit from my current study on sign vocabulary. It may not be the best way to learn ASL but it is all I have now. I don"t know where the deaf people gather around here. If I did I would join their party and start learning about ASL. Don't you all think I would jump at the chance?? My hands are tied so I must learn via books until I can finally join in a gatering. Be fair with me please. __________________ __

03-20-2008, 04:14 PM	#477 (permalink)
AquaBlue Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 2,031	Familiarity (overview) = memory (association) = learning (knowledge) = application (wisdom) = command (mastery). __________________ __

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Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,161	AB, which colleges are within commuting distance to you? Which public school district do you live in? __________________ Tell us the truth about Benghazi!

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