Closed captioning on newer TV's

AlleyCat · 10-03-2007, 10:50 AM

I'm well aware of the law that was passed some years ago requiring all new TV's be equipped with closed captioning. However, my friend who I visit often - he has a Magnavox TV that he purchased brand-new last year. For the life of us we cannot find the closed captioning on the menu options ANYWHERE. It is not even explained in the manual. We've spent hours trying to figure out where the captioning is and have looked at all the "options" on the menu and NOTHING !! Anyone else out there with a Magnavox TV that's had this problem?

farmerjoe · 10-03-2007, 12:11 PM

can you give us the exact model of the TV?

AlleyCat · 10-03-2007, 12:29 PM

I don't have that information on me but I will get it.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I'm well aware of the law that was passed some years ago requiring all new TV's be equipped with closed captioning. However, my friend who I visit often - he has a Magnavox TV that he purchased brand-new last year. For the life of us we cannot find the closed captioning on the menu options ANYWHERE. It is not even explained in the manual. We've spent hours trying to figure out where the captioning is and have looked at all the "options" on the menu and NOTHING !! Anyone else out there with a Magnavox TV that's had this problem?

If this is a High Definition tv, that could be problematic but let's wait for farmerjoe.

Foxrac · 10-03-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I'm well aware of the law that was passed some years ago requiring all new TV's be equipped with closed captioning. However, my friend who I visit often - he has a Magnavox TV that he purchased brand-new last year. For the life of us we cannot find the closed captioning on the menu options ANYWHERE. It is not even explained in the manual. We've spent hours trying to figure out where the captioning is and have looked at all the "options" on the menu and NOTHING !! Anyone else out there with a Magnavox TV that's had this problem?

It won't cover on digital source, such as component or HDMI because not all HDTV will support CC on video out from component or HDMI, this law is just old and still cover on analog.

You need get Sony HDTV, that's friendly for deaf people because CC will support on digital source like component or HDMI but I know that Sony HDTV is expensive, compared to other brand but more worth, I will switch to Sony HDTV in near future, as added on my list.

Other thought, try use BD or HD-DVD movies instead of DVD movies because you will get SDH if your HDTV don't support CC via component or HDMI.

sequoias · 10-03-2007, 02:16 PM

^^ let's not jump conclusions. He/she only wants to FIND where the closed captions control panel is. they couldn't find in the TV's control panel.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 02:27 PM

We have a Sony 55 incher that is less than a year old. Hmmm, I wonder if it is Hi-Def?

Foxrac · 10-03-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

We have a Sony 55 incher that is less than a year old. Hmmm, I wonder if it is Hi-Def?

If Sony Bravia then that's right, it's HDTV.

Same thing, if you notice about many different video out on back or side (composite to HDMI) then it's part of HDTV.

Foxrac · 10-03-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I'm well aware of the law that was passed some years ago requiring all new TV's be equipped with closed captioning. However, my friend who I visit often - he has a Magnavox TV that he purchased brand-new last year. For the life of us we cannot find the closed captioning on the menu options ANYWHERE. It is not even explained in the manual. We've spent hours trying to figure out where the captioning is and have looked at all the "options" on the menu and NOTHING !! Anyone else out there with a Magnavox TV that's had this problem?

Oh, forgot about one more to say...

Did you check on remote control? It must be CC button on remote control to make CC to displayed on screen, enable on CC1.

All TV in USA are required to have CC decode, when made in after 1993.

Jacob · 10-03-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Oh, forgot about one more to say...

Did you check on remote control? It must be CC button on remote control to make CC to displayed on screen, enable on CC1.

All TV in USA are required to have CC decode, when made in after 1993.

If this ugly-name-new-television doesn't have CC, will they be in BIG trouble, I believe?

By the way, Pacman, I have Sony Bravia, and it's awesome.

Foxrac · 10-03-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jclarke

If this ugly-name-new-television doesn't have CC, will they be in BIG trouble, I believe?

By the way, Pacman, I have Sony Bravia, and it's awesome.

Yup, they would be charge with FCC, I think so.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Oh, forgot about one more to say...

Did you check on remote control? It must be CC button on remote control to make CC to displayed on screen, enable on CC1.

All TV in USA are required to have CC decode, when made in after 1993.

I thought the CC was/is a problem with HD tv's? What you speak of is for analog tv's.

Jacob · 10-03-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

Yup, they would be charge with FCC, I think so.

Thought so - it is the breach of the american law.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jclarke

Thought so - it is the breach of the american law.

Are you a barrister?

Jacob · 10-03-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Are you a barrister?

Uh - oh.....

...Nope, I wish.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jclarke

Uh - oh.....

...Nope, I wish.

Then how are you so sure it is a violation of American law?

Jacob · 10-03-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Then how are you so sure it is a violation of American law?

well, in america, I can see that the law is ALL Tv's must have captioning decoder, but I believe that ugly brand name TV doesn't have the captions fitted by law.

CCfan · 10-03-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

It won't cover on digital source, such as component or HDMI because not all HDTV will support CC on video out from component or HDMI, this law is just old and still cover on analog.

You need get Sony HDTV, that's friendly for deaf people because CC will support on digital source like component or HDMI but I know that Sony HDTV is expensive, compared to other brand but more worth, I will switch to Sony HDTV in near future, as added on my list.

I know every HDTV via Component and HDMI doesn't support closed-captioning...

but I don't see Sony HDTV support closed-captioning via component (in digital), and HDMI. Please let us know if you see or believe that.

Tousi · 10-03-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jclarke

well, in america, I can see that the law is ALL Tv's must have captioning decoder, but I believe that ugly brand name TV doesn't have the captions fitted by law.

That's right but what I know is that some manufacturers will do anything to cut costs, including CC chips. Some are using technical language like, "Well, we comply with the law for analog tv's but there is no law saying that we have to install the CC chip in the HD/digital tv's." Or language to that effect which is why the NAD (National Association of the Deaf), our watchdog organization is working with the appropriate Federal people in Washington to make sure this includes HD/Dititals, too. And I believe there is a deadline...2009 when all tv's will be High Def...So there you have it, Mr. Clarke...G'day, mate!

P.S It doesn't matter what brand, nice or ugly-fugly, all TV's over 13 inches will have the CC chip installed (decoders went out the window years ago, lol).

Jacob · 10-04-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

That's right but what I know is that some manufacturers will do anything to cut costs, including CC chips. Some are using technical language like, "Well, we comply with the law for analog tv's but there is no law saying that we have to install the CC chip in the HD/digital tv's." Or language to that effect which is why the NAD (National Association of the Deaf), our watchdog organization is working with the appropriate Federal people in Washington to make sure this includes HD/Dititals, too. And I believe there is a deadline...2009 when all tv's will be High Def...So there you have it, Mr. Clarke...G'day, mate!

P.S It doesn't matter what brand, nice or ugly-fugly, all TV's over 13 inches will have the CC chip installed (decoders went out the window years ago, lol).

Thanks for the specific information, tousi!

Tousi · 10-04-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jclarke

Thanks for the specific information, tousi!

Not a problem, mate; maybe you can buy me a roo steak and a beer, lol.

Jacob · 10-04-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Not a problem, mate; maybe you can buy me a roo steak and a beer, lol.

haha, got something for me too?

Foxrac · 10-04-2007, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CCfan

I know every HDTV via Component and HDMI doesn't support closed-captioning...

but I don't see Sony HDTV support closed-captioning via component (in digital), and HDMI. Please let us know if you see or believe that.

No, there's some HDTV that support CC via component and possibly HDMI, such as Sony.

It won't work on Sanyo, Westinghouse, Samsung and Philips, 3 of them has been tested before.

You have to ask defmatrixense because he did watch DVD movies and CC is shown on screen via component cable, he have Sony HDTV.
http://www.alldeaf.com/captioning-si...ld-know-4.html

DefMATRIXense · 10-04-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CCfan

I know every HDTV via Component and HDMI doesn't support closed-captioning...

but I don't see Sony HDTV support closed-captioning via component (in digital), and HDMI. Please let us know if you see or believe that.

It does because I am seeing it. Not only that I have a Sony HDTV but also digital cable box does support CC on Dell ultrashrap widescreen HDTV (dell 2407 model) via component

PowerON · 10-04-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

I don't have that information on me but I will get it.

if it's less than 13" display, it wouldn't have CC features.

BelleSorrisa · 10-04-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman

No, there's some HDTV that support CC via component and possibly HDMI, such as Sony.

It won't work on Sanyo, Westinghouse, Samsung and Philips, 3 of them has been tested before.

You have to ask defmatrixense because he did watch DVD movies and CC is shown on screen via component cable, he have Sony HDTV.
http://www.alldeaf.com/captioning-si...ld-know-4.html

I have a Vizio HDTV and I hooked up my HD cable box (comcast) through DVI to HDMI - the closed captions work. I also hooked up my upconverting DVD player (Phillips) using HDMI cables - the cc didn't work but I switched cables from HDMI to Compenent and the cc showed up.

Jacob · 10-04-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BelleSorrisa

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,543	We have a Sony 55 incher that is less than a year old. Hmmm, I wonder if it is Hi-Def?