Cheri

That's how some of you see it, but that's not how I see it. Sorry; we see things differently.

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Cheri

There are many times I've seen you say that hearing people don't understand your experience, or how they do not understand the deafs needs.

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shel90

your point is?

also, it is true that they dont understand but I dont play the deaf card.

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jillio

Let me ask you this, Cheri. A while back, there was a thread about Al Sharpton being arrested in protest of an unarmed black man being shot by police. You and many others ridiculed him for "playing the race card." You, in particular, believed that Al Sharpton was making it all about the fact that the shooting victim was black, and the officer was not black.

How is it any different when someone says, "It's because I'm deaf and you are hearing? You couldn't possibly understand! You haven't lived my life. You don't know because you aren't deaf. Hearing terps are liars and thieves because they take advantage of deaf people. Hearing people don't know anything about disability services or the ADA. Hearing people suck. Hearing people have no business learning ASL." That, my dear, is playing the deaf card, and to say that it's all right for a deaf individual to engage in this behavior, but a black man, who is the member of a minority group that has experienced every bit as much oppression historically as any deaf person has, is wrong to to so, is one of the most self absorbed and hypocritical attitudes anyone can have.

jillio

Shel has never said "ALL hearing peole." And she is very appreciative of thos hearing people who seek to understand, seek to address the needs of the deaf from the deaf's perspective, and seek to advocate for educational and social equality. That is the major difference between shel's position and jasin's position.

Shel makes her assessments based on reality, not ridiculous stereotypes that don't apply.

Cheri

I don't think Justin was either.

And Jillio, We all very much appreciative how some hearing people go out their way to understand. Shel isn't the only one.

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shel90

Who is Justin?

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shel90

No, I never said all...just those who refuse to understand a deaf person's perspective or ridicule the deaf person's perspectives of what it is like to be deaf.

Those people frustrate me cuz that would mean I would see more deaf children with language delays but that is a whole another topic itself.

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Cheri

I mean "jasin".

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jillio

No, shel isn't the only one. But you were comparing her to jasin. So, I stuck to the same comparison.

And, no, Cheri, it is not all that are appreciative. The majority of the posts made by justin are very derogatory of the efforts of hearing people.

shel90

I disagree...there are so many comments that he makes that makes him appear to have a hatred of hearing people. There was one thread made to hearing people and why they are here on AD and one of his post showed his disain of hearing people clear as a bell.

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jillio

Exactly. And you know what is funny? When I called jasin on his attitude when he was complaining about the rudeness of all deaf people, he said that my post was evidence of the fact that all deaf people were rude. When I told him I wasn't deaf, all of a sudden I was a nasty hearie that didn't have a clue what I was talking about in any situation.

Cheri

I rather to ask than making assumption on what jasin had meant by what he says on his posts. Sometimes I would say "hearing people" but it doesn't mean I'm speaking of all hearing people. It's best to ask then assuming.

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jillio

Several people have asked him for claification. His meaning is clear. And you are giving jasin a consideration that he refuses to give to others. Its great that you don't make assumptions without asking what he means. However, he constantly makes assumtptions about others that are, more often than not, completely incorrect.

Secretblend

Crystal clear!

Byrdie714

Deaf card?

:::checking my wallet:::

Wait a minute! I don't have a deaf card and I'm deaf! Where do I apply for one?

Secretblend

Sorry gave mine away a long time ago!

jillio

You don't need one, dude! You have sufficient confidence to bypass the victim identification procedure.

shel90

at Byrdie and Secretblend!

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jillio

Wait!! I think I know who you gave it to!!

Secretblend

Ohh? who so I can go get it back!?

jillio

You don't want it! Turns you into a hostile person!

Secretblend

AAAhhh you got a point there.

However we are getting off topic here.

Byrdie714

I do?

jillio

From what I've seen, the answer would be a definate yes. And YW.

Grummer

Using a card as a metaphor to deny how bad it can be really is for deaf people, and making a joke out of it, your getting too close to mixing ridicule and denial. i believe there are some truth in how some d/Deaf plays the hollywood, but i don't buy all of it becuase there is as much truth in being ****ed over

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Etoile

I have a question. Do you really think there are hearing people who are deviously out to get deaf people? I know there are cunning con artists out there, but do you think it is because the victim cannot hear, or just because the con artist is a con artist and they will trick anybody they can? This is a serious question, I'm trying to understand why you believe evil hearing people are out to get deaf people.

Grummer

i dont know where you got 'evil' or 'con artist' from, and sorry, i will not answer to this stupid question.

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Jiro

don't mind me at all!

Debbieaslpr

Same procedures are done here in Ed. system only one thing is diffrent the goverment DOSENOT pay well and on time an interpreter in Puerto Rico CAN NOT live on 6.91 hrs and work with more than one student especialy if their in different grades. Sorry for buting in.

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