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Old 04-01-2007, 06:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interpreter VS Real-time interpreter (CART)

Which do you prefer and why?

I myself prefer sign language interpreters, but I sometimes feel like I don't get all the information. I feel like I get more information using a real-time interpreter (CART).

Just curious about other deaf folks here and what they prefer.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd also like to know the answer to this. I'm a hearing person with a father who is HOH from the war.
I went to school to become a court reporter. While going to school, I had several jobs as a CART provider. I loved my job because I was helping people and also learning new things. This job really peaked my interest in ASL. Later, my school closed and I moved to a different city. I'm now taking ASL classes - I'm in ASL 3. But I'm looking for a job in my small city. I was thinking of applying as an ASL interperter for our local college. But I was also thinking of providing my CART skills. I'd also ike to know which you prefer and why. I think I'm more comfortable with CART, but I'd like to learn more ASL. The advantage with CART is that I go home and edit my notes then email them to you by the next class. This way, if you miss anything while the lesson is going on, you can reference my notes later.
Thank you.
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Old 09-19-2007, 03:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd also like to know the answer to this. I'm a hearing person with a father who is HOH from the war.
I went to school to become a court reporter. While going to school, I had several jobs as a CART provider. I loved my job because I was helping people and also learning new things. This job really peaked my interest in ASL. Later, my school closed and I moved to a different city. I'm now taking ASL classes - I'm in ASL 3. But I'm looking for a job in my small city. I was thinking of applying as an ASL interperter for our local college. But I was also thinking of providing my CART skills. I'd also ike to know which you prefer and why. I think I'm more comfortable with CART, but I'd like to learn more ASL. The advantage with CART is that I go home and edit my notes then email them to you by the next class. This way, if you miss anything while the lesson is going on, you can reference my notes later.
Thank you.
Just a note - if you want to work as an interpreter, you would need to complete your school's full ASL curriculum and then also attend an Interpreter Training Program (ITP) to become skilled as an interpreter. Just knowing sign language is not enough - there are specialized skills involved with interpreting, too.
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Of course. I meant that I'd like to have a job that I could have before, and if, I wanted to get certified. I'd like to get my foot in the door, maybe as an aide...
I started taking ASL classes because I thought it was interesting. I'm not currently taking any other classes - I'm trying to focus on my court reporting state test. But many of my classmates who have, or have not, taken classes other than ASL, are doing interpreting work at our local college. I'm sure everyone's skill level is different and I'm not perfect, but would like to learn more.
What I'd like to know is what are the pro's and con's of having and interpreter or a CART provider? I've been reading other threads and it seems like everyone has their own opinions. I know that there are no CART providers at our local college. I was wondering if deaf/HOH would be interested in this? I'll be going to class later to talk to my teacher about this. I know that there is a shortage - it seems like everywhere - so I hope that I can provide CART services in my community.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I would imagine that deaf people who are confident in their English skills are the ones who are comfortable using CART. I know some deaf people who are not at all confident about their English skills and they have told me they prefer interpreters over CART because it puts the information into their native language.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Some are CART for closed captioned on tv or movies. That does types follow from people who speak or made noises. I been aware how to use the CART but I am DEAF.

I used to have an interpreter all of my life. I have learned that....when you are in classes in college and professional will ask someone to do the "notetaking" but they can use the CART so we can read from it.

Other than that is matter to me. Which is right for me to use. Frustration will be CART so prefer interpreter so I have some question to answer instead of CART. That is what I been thinking.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Which do you prefer and why?

I myself prefer sign language interpreters, but I sometimes feel like I don't get all the information. I feel like I get more information using a real-time interpreter (CART).

Just curious about other deaf folks here and what they prefer.
I would also perfer CART in college since the sign language interpreters at the time were vaiable and some things can get confusing in the translation from English to signs.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I would imagine that deaf people who are confident in their English skills are the ones who are comfortable using CART. I know some deaf people who are not at all confident about their English skills and they have told me they prefer interpreters over CART because it puts the information into their native language.
Exactly. CART only provides for transcription, but interpretation allows for language differences.
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:20 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I rather interpreter over CART. I hate to read every dang word to word!! It makes me sleepy!!
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Old 09-30-2007, 07:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I rather interpreter over CART. I hate to read every dang word to word!! It makes me sleepy!!
I am with u on that one. I tried oral terps...missed out on too much info, tried CART but I had to constantly read fast and if I wanted to participate in the class discussion, I would have to look away from the CART and end up missing what others have said so I tried an ASL terp...was the best cuz I felt fully involved with the class and really didnt miss out anything cuz the concept of the lecture was being signed to me. I could always read the books for the class for new terminology required by the class. Not a big deal.

I prefer an ASL terp over CART.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am with u on that one. I tried oral terps...missed out on too much info, tried CART but I had to constantly read fast and if I wanted to participate in the class discussion, I would have to look away from the CART and end up missing what others have said so I tried an ASL terp...was the best cuz I felt fully involved with the class and really didnt miss out anything cuz the concept of the lecture was being signed to me. I could always read the books for the class for new terminology required by the class. Not a big deal.

I prefer an ASL terp over CART.
Yeah, the students I work with prefer the terp, too. CART is handy if the professor covers material in the lecture that isn't in the text book, and they can get a printed transcript to use outside of class. But then, a good notetaker can take care of that, too.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
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what does CART stand for?? Is this like signed english interpreting every word? also, qualified interpreters, do they use sign language or this CART?

Im from NZ so bit limited in knowledge at the mo. I realy wana learn ASL so, tryin to get all the info as I can
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
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what does CART stand for?? Is this like signed english interpreting every word? also, qualified interpreters, do they use sign language or this CART?

Im from NZ so bit limited in knowledge at the mo. I realy wana learn ASL so, tryin to get all the info as I can
CART is Computer Assisted Real-time Transcription. It is basically very similar to captions on your TV, except it is done on laptops. The captioner has one laptop and transcribes everything that is said, and the audience member has the other laptop and reads what the captioner has written. Like with captions on TV, this is usually done by someone who is trained with court reporting, using phonetics and syllables rather than typing out every word completely.

All interpreters, whether qualified or not, use sign language. CART specialists are usually called a CART specialist, CART provider, or captioner.

It is also possible to have CART shown on a large screen or even over the internet. The captioner does not have to be in the room, if the speakers are wearing microphones the captioner can listen over headset.

I believe that is all correct...if I am wrong about any of it I hope somebody will correct me!
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Old 10-01-2007, 05:33 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I prefer terps over CART.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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CART is Computer Assisted Real-time Transcription. It is basically very similar to captions on your TV, except it is done on laptops. The captioner has one laptop and transcribes everything that is said, and the audience member has the other laptop and reads what the captioner has written. Like with captions on TV, this is usually done by someone who is trained with court reporting, using phonetics and syllables rather than typing out every word completely.

All interpreters, whether qualified or not, use sign language. CART specialists are usually called a CART specialist, CART provider, or captioner.

It is also possible to have CART shown on a large screen or even over the internet. The captioner does not have to be in the room, if the speakers are wearing microphones the captioner can listen over headset.

I believe that is all correct...if I am wrong about any of it I hope somebody will correct me!

Actually, that was a wonderful explanation!
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Joshy: I know you're from NZ and not the UK, but NZ-English tens to be closer to UK-English than US-English - the British call it "palantype", so perhaps it goes by the same name in New Zealand.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Joshy: I know you're from NZ and not the UK, but NZ-English tens to be closer to UK-English than US-English - the British call it "palantype", so perhaps it goes by the same name in New Zealand.
I never heard that word before, thanks for mentioning it!
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I never heard that word before, thanks for mentioning it!
I saw a blog by a deafblind guy (with Usher's, I think) a few months ago who had somehow taught himself to recognise palantype directly - that is, he had the provider do their typing thing right on his hand(s). As you might imagine, the word has stuck in my mind ever since. I can certainly see how that'd make it simpler to use CART - no waiting for the provider to set up their laptop - but that's an incredible skill.
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I saw a blog by a deafblind guy (with Usher's, I think) a few months ago who had somehow taught himself to recognise palantype directly - that is, he had the provider do their typing thing right on his hand(s). As you might imagine, the word has stuck in my mind ever since. I can certainly see how that'd make it simpler to use CART - no waiting for the provider to set up their laptop - but that's an incredible skill.
Kinesthetic transcription......cool!
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I saw a blog by a deafblind guy (with Usher's, I think) a few months ago who had somehow taught himself to recognise palantype directly - that is, he had the provider do their typing thing right on his hand(s). As you might imagine, the word has stuck in my mind ever since. I can certainly see how that'd make it simpler to use CART - no waiting for the provider to set up their laptop - but that's an incredible skill.
Wow...that is AMAZING.
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