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Unread 06-21-2012, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Is it true that ADA made movie theaters to have CC a law?

I met a deaf brother and sister in disney, watching a show called Fanatasmic with the rear captioned window. I have to say, Disney does a better job providing closed captioning for the deaf than my school or any other movie theaters.

Anyways, I was talking to the deaf brother and sister (I didn't get their names..woops!) and they told me that ADA recently made a law that movie theaters must have CC, and if they say that they have CC available in the newspaper for a specific movie and then say no when you request them for it, you can complain to ADA and that they will give you free tickets to the movie along with the available captioning. I don't know if this is entirely true, because I haven't heard about this.

My friend who's deaf said he already know about this, but i was curious of why i am not informed about this. This is something i really was looking for because as everybody here on all deaf, we want to be able to go to movie theaters with CC. I just hate waiting for the DVD. I really want to see Breaking dawn part 2 with my mom and i just know for a fact that it will not have closed captioning because movie theaters refuses to buy the rear view captioning because of losing money. But they wouldn't be losing money since a ton of people goes to theaters to watch a movie. I don't know what they're worried about.
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Unread 06-21-2012, 10:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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no, then maybe yes, but then again there's alway loopholes for those film makers....
obligations and under what condition, big budget? small budget , who makes the subs, who verify the subs as 'fit' for the SDH crowd??
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Unread 06-22-2012, 09:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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each film cost about $200k to add closed caption. Now, I assume, probably cost bit more. However, someone mention, it's depend on how much film is make, to meet their required. If the film earn much lower, may not required to add CC.
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Unread 06-22-2012, 06:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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each film cost about $200k to add closed caption. Now, I assume, probably cost bit more. However, someone mention, it's depend on how much film is make, to meet their required. If the film earn much lower, may not required to add CC.
They can use it as a tax write-off, can't they? If they can, I don't see the point why they worry about losing money.

For example, a doctor provides an interpreter for his/her deaf clients. It can be a tax write-off as a medical expense but I am not definitely sure.
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They can use it as a tax write-off, can't they? If they can, I don't see the point why they worry about losing money.

For example, a doctor provides an interpreter for his/her deaf clients. It can be a tax write-off as a medical expense but I am not definitely sure.
Probably! The only thing i have heard from movie theaters about not using CC is that they don't want to waste a ton of money using CC in movie theaters, and that its not really worth it since deaf people don't always come to cinemas.
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each film cost about $200k to add closed caption. Now, I assume, probably cost bit more. However, someone mention, it's depend on how much film is make, to meet their required. If the film earn much lower, may not required to add CC.
I have another question for you if you don't mind. Which one is the cheapest? OC, CV or RWC?
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Probably! The only thing i have heard from movie theaters about not using CC is that they don't want to waste a ton of money using CC in movie theaters, and that its not really worth it since deaf people don't always come to cinemas.
I have no problem with local theaters in LA area. Do you know about Captionfish?

My guess is that if a local theater such as AMC, United Artists, Edwards, etc shows a captioned movie, they are required to show at least three different captioned movies during the same week.

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I'm glad there are more ways to have CC in theaters now what with the new cc glasses and the cupholder individual display. Maybe now theaters won't be just scheduling on low attendance nights like Tuesdays, LOL! We gave up on our local theaters because that's what they would do. And we couldn't go to matinees as my husband didn't get off work until later afternoon, so we'd have to pay full price for a later show. This was in the days of only open captioning being an option and not all movies produced for theaters had that captioning, and not all theaters had the special projectors to display the open captioning. I gave up going to theaters at that time, and we just wait for the dvd to come out. Saves a lot of $$$ plus we can sit with our feet up & make our own popcorn.
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I have no problem with local theaters in LA area. Do you know about Captionfish?

My guess is that if a local theater such as AMC, United Artists, Edwards, etc shows a captioned movie, they are required to show at least three different captioned movies during the same week.
I had captionfish, and i looked for movie theaters that had CC available. There were none in my area. I live in the dayton area. and Captionfish said that there was a CC movie theater available in the Xenia area.. too far!!
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I'm glad there are more ways to have CC in theaters now what with the new cc glasses and the cupholder individual display. Maybe now theaters won't be just scheduling on low attendance nights like Tuesdays, LOL! We gave up on our local theaters because that's what they would do. And we couldn't go to matinees as my husband didn't get off work until later afternoon, so we'd have to pay full price for a later show. This was in the days of only open captioning being an option and not all movies produced for theaters had that captioning, and not all theaters had the special projectors to display the open captioning. I gave up going to theaters at that time, and we just wait for the dvd to come out. Saves a lot of $$$ plus we can sit with our feet up & make our own popcorn.
I think SONY access glasses is better - An infrared emitter broadcasts closed caption text into an auditorium which can be picked up by special eyewear.

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I think SONY access glasses is better - An infrared emitter broadcasts closed caption text into an auditorium which can be picked up by special eyewear.

New Subtitle Glasses For Movie Goers - YouTube
I found a captioned video regarding to those glasses. It shows the actual demo. Notice that when the glasses are shaken, the subtitles are shaken as well. In other words, you have to keep your head still so the subs will not get shaken.

BBC News - Cinema subtitle glasses give promise to deaf film fans
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I found a captioned video regarding to those glasses. It shows the actual demo. Notice that when the glasses are shaken, the subtitles are shaken as well. In other words, you have to keep your head still so the subs will not get shaken.

BBC News - Cinema subtitle glasses give promise to deaf film fans
I wonder if my movie theater have those. Probably not, but how much is it?
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I wonder if my movie theater have those. Probably not, but how much is it?
Sony subtitle glasses are deployed by Q1 2013 at Regal theaters. It s so expensive. Sony subtitle glasses costs $1,400 to $1,500.
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^Thats what they say, I put $20 on it that there isnt more than $250 in each pair (this price is solely on materials and labor and doesnt include a bogus mark up that they claim to the IRS and other gov't agencies).

I've used the subtitle glasses at a local Regal theater...they didnt seem that well made really and there was a lot of captioning missing (probably about 5% of The Avengers had no CC)
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^Thats what they say, I put $20 on it that there isnt more than $250 in each pair (this price is solely on materials and labor and doesnt include a bogus mark up that they claim to the IRS and other gov't agencies).

I've used the subtitle glasses at a local Regal theater...they didnt seem that well made really and there was a lot of captioning missing (probably about 5% of The Avengers had no CC)
That sucks!
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I checked with Captionfish for my local theaters. Alot of them have those glasses. I am disappointed since I prefer OC. Oh, ****!
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^Thats what they say, I put $20 on it that there isnt more than $250 in each pair (this price is solely on materials and labor and doesnt include a bogus mark up that they claim to the IRS and other gov't agencies).

I've used the subtitle glasses at a local Regal theater...they didnt seem that well made really and there was a lot of captioning missing (probably about 5% of The Avengers had no CC)
SONY Access Glasses? Poor vision? should be Google’s Goggles/Glasses!
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Go to website Captionfish: A captioned movies search engine to check which will have near you.
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SONY Access Glasses? Poor vision? should be Google’s Goggles/Glasses!
They were definitely Sony Glasses. These to be exact
Sony, Regal roll out closed caption movie glasses | Electronista

They are completely clear and show neon green words on the bottom (not the easiest color to see)..coupled with missing words and the fact that the first set didnt even work...Im not too thrilled about it.

On screen OC > Sony personal CC glasses
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On screen OC > Sony personal CC glasses
Of course, OC is the best of all.
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Go to website Captionfish: A captioned movies search engine to check which will have near you.
You are reposting the link that I already posted in #7. Oh, well...
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http://www.deaftechnews.com/2012/06/...glasses-video/

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To those in BC - I tried to go see Hunger Games in CC or RWC, whatever,
but despite what it said online, in the actual movie theater they said the movie has no captions.
so I went

In the end I haven't seen the movie. why would they do that?
advertise one thing in their online listings, and then tell another in the theater??

I haven't seen any CC movie in the theater yet in my life

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Once my hearing dropped beyond using the ear phone set up for amplified sound in theaters (most have had those all along), I gave up going to theaters. I just wait for the DVD of the movie I want to see to come out, either at my library or through Netflix, and watch it then. In recent years, most DVDs of movies made have either subtitles, SDH, or CC for the movie. Special features usually are NOT captioned, , but at least the movie is. I have become rather fond of watching at home, feet up, making our own popcorn. Not have to put up with rude people using cell phones or jabbering aloud or getting up & down all through the movie is rather a nice benefit of watching movies at home, too.
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i normally wait for dvd come out for certain movies i love to watch. Lately Movie theaters been neglecting to put cc on movie theater. Yes Law stated that closed caption put on to help deaf people understand. I went watch movie theater just couple hours ago i requested CC on movie Breaking Dawn Saga part 2 they gave me headphone i told them no how that help me or my boyfriend to understand movie. They told me they don't have CC, i just feel like i want to exploded. I know Rave Theaters usually have CC if deaf requested it. But lately, They think deaf can hear or what not. How headphone can be loud enough for deaf person. i prefer CC period. if they don't put it on, i aint watching it, and This point on for me, if they don't put on CC for me, they just lost their customer. There is 2000 deaf people here in Pensacola Rave Movie theater need to advertise better not on radio when CC available for movies. I think ADA need to be more force to help us. Not when they feel like it. Interpreters is normally provided when we need it for DR or whatever appt. Movie Theaters is no different than other places. They need help us best as they can if they want deaf people to pay for movie tickets to watch movies. Then they won't be able complain about money bout CC on each movie
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Tax write off and tax credit is totally different math formula. Tax write off does NOT mean that you write it off in return as if its free. You STILL pay, but just save small percentage of taxes that is all.

Here is example A service that cost 100 dollars, and it is tax write off so you write off 100 dollars off from your income, and your tax bracket say 33% would mean you save 33 dollars on taxable income and STILL pay the difference which is 67 dollars. It is pretty much like you have to pay but with a small tax discount that is all. As opposed as tax credit, which means if you pay 100 dollars, you get full 100 dollars in tax refund with tax credit, comparing getting only 33 dollars back with tax write off.

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For example, a doctor provides an interpreter for his/her deaf clients. It can be a tax write-off as a medical expense but I am not definitely sure.
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