All about electric cars!

**sequoias** · 11-16-2011, 11:09 PM

Discuss here.....

**Jiro** · 11-16-2011, 11:21 PM

nah. I'll stick with this

Cummins Diesel vs Bicyclist - YouTube

authentic · 11-16-2011, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

nah. I'll stick with this

Cummins Diesel vs Bicyclist - YouTube

That diesel truck driver must bring to justice.

dereksbicycles · 11-17-2011, 12:05 AM

Rams are cool!! I have a Ram, but that is pretty rude what they're doing there.

As for electric cars, the whole world will change once electric cars come in production.

Think about it. All gas stations will go out of business. Electric stations will have to be built.

People cannot get rich quickly on oil and gas. Electrical fields will become a more demanding field.

I would go on and on. I am sure you can add to this.

authentic · 11-17-2011, 12:08 AM

I would rather to wait for electric car to be able to drive more than 500 miles without recharging, maybe nuclear fuel cell work better ? Soviet submarine use nuclear fuel cell, and one nuclear fuel cell ball would be able to run submarine for twenty years.

authentic · 11-17-2011, 12:11 AM

Here is the worst electric car design I ever seen;

*VOMITS*

dereksbicycles · 11-17-2011, 12:13 AM

Just imagine what happen if the battery die and someone drove an electric car with turbocharged engine. Just imagine going from 150 mph to zero!!!! that is why many people dislike the idea of electric car.

**Jiro** · 11-17-2011, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

I would rather to wait for electric car to be able to drive more than 500 miles without recharging, maybe nuclear fuel cell work better ? Soviet submarine use nuclear fuel cell, and one nuclear fuel cell ball would be able to run submarine for twenty years.

nuclear fuel cell means massive cooling system. that's why submarine has several nuclear engineers to keep it humming and cool for 20+ years.

electric car that goes on for 500+ miles without recharging won't ever come into existence on practical scale for probably next 25 years until some genius made a life-changing breakthrough in chemical engineering for battery.

Hybrid Car makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if an affordable hybrid car can go more than 800 miles per refuel by 2020.

**Jiro** · 11-17-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

Here is the worst electric car design I ever seen;

*VOMITS*

I think Chevrolet Volt kinda looks cool

**Jiro** · 11-17-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Rams are cool!! I have a Ram, but that is pretty rude what they're doing there.

As for electric cars, the whole world will change once electric cars come in production.

Think about it. All gas stations will go out of business. Electric stations will have to be built.

People cannot get rich quickly on oil and gas. Electrical fields will become a more demanding field.

I would go on and on. I am sure you can add to this.

here's a problem. if the world changes to electric cars and electric stations... that will means we need to build more nuclear power plants... which means it's not an environmentally-friendly approach. It's gonna get hotter.

authentic · 11-17-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nuclear fuel cell means massive cooling system. that's why submarine has several nuclear engineers to keep it humming and cool for 20+ years.

electric car that goes on for 500+ miles without recharging won't ever come into existence on practical scale for probably next 25 years until some genius made a life-changing breakthrough in chemical engineering for battery.

Hybrid Car makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if an affordable hybrid car can go more than 800 miles per refuel by 2020.

Here in California have approx 200 days of sun, solar powered vehicles would be the best fit in here.

dereksbicycles · 11-17-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

here's a problem. if the world changes to electric cars and electric stations... that will means we need to build more nuclear power plants... which means it's not an environmentally-friendly approach. It's gonna get hotter.

and probably more polluted which is sad because I would like to think goal of electric cars was to lessen negative environmental impact.

**Chevy57** · 11-17-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

Here in California have approx 200 days of sun, solar powered vehicles would be the best fit in here.

You can trade this van.

Evo Dragon · 11-17-2011, 05:09 AM

Electric sportcar
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**sequoias** · 11-17-2011, 06:49 AM

There would be about 15 models of electric vehicles by 2013 and over a million electric cars produced a year by 2015. There should be a electric version of Toyota RAV4 by next year. I dunno about the others, we'll see.

I still wonder why there are only one speed transmissions in most electric cars. Why not just put in 2 or 3 speed transmission and that might help extend the battery range. The electric motors would spin at lower speeds. They have 100% torque at zero to redline. The Nissan Leaf has 107 hp and 208 torque. The zero to 60 times is 9.9 secs, not bad for a 3,375 lb car (the battery pack alone weighs 600 lbs). The torque does help a lot.

**sequoias** · 11-17-2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

Here in California have approx 200 days of sun, solar powered vehicles would be the best fit in here.

Solar powered cars are not feasible yet. The solar cells would be very large to have good power demand for average american.

**sequoias** · 11-17-2011, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Evo Dragon

Electric sportcar
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That Telsa Roadster has pretty good range for a electric car, 245 miles per charge even though it has one speed direct drive transmission and its electric motor can spin up to 13,500 rpm. Too bad it's not a great family car.

**Chevy57** · 11-17-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sequoias

That Telsa Roadster has pretty good range for a electric car, 245 miles per charge even though it has one speed direct drive transmission and its electric motor can spin up to 13,500 rpm. Too bad it's not a great family car.

Yes, other vehicle as sedan

Car and Driver Blog » Tesla: Model X Crossover On Sale in Late 2013, Model S Moving Along, $30K Vehicle Planned for 2015/2016

diehardbiker · 11-17-2011, 08:45 AM

Not going to happen, Electric cars were once popular before 1906.

Why did the electric car become unpopular in the early 1900s? - Curiosity

Read on.

deafsmogtech · 11-17-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nah. I'll stick with this

Cummins Diesel vs Bicyclist - YouTube

Lol, bad heath for bicyclists. Bust a gross polluted truck driver.

diehardbiker · 11-17-2011, 09:19 AM

It might be sounding sense BUT don't you realize the true cost of replacing the batteries?

The sales of Hybrid cars has decline a bit already and may go down.

Comparing to regular car and hybrid car when it comes to major and expensive components.

Regular cars, has only two major components Engine and transmission. The rest is not expensive to replace.

Hybrid cars has 4 major components Engine, Transmission, energy reclaiming (Brake), and batteries.

Just think this way, all of the components will fail at some point and need to replace. Just think this way, Hybrid cars may save say 3 or 4 thousands dollars on gas over 8 years, and the replacement of batteries usually around 8 years and it cost easily $5,000 dollars. How is it possible a sensible to get Hybrid Oh wait! there is three other major components that could go wrong. There is no real savings in Hybrid cars anyway.

The only exception for electric cars is that I supported fuel cell, why? Simple, it got two major components. That is Motor and Fuel cell, and Hydrogen is renewable and plenty in the world.

Read on this one http://www.hybridcars.com/economics/hidden-costs.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

Hybrid Car makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if an affordable hybrid car can go more than 800 miles per refuel by 2020.

PowerON · 11-17-2011, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by authentic

I would rather to wait for electric car to be able to drive more than 500 miles without recharging, maybe nuclear fuel cell work better ? Soviet submarine use nuclear fuel cell, and one nuclear fuel cell ball would be able to run submarine for twenty years.

lol, I have been told that early . However, it will nuke once it been in accident. Plus, it give bad radiator to body while driving.

The Highlander · 11-17-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

I would rather to wait for electric car to be able to drive more than 500 miles without recharging, maybe nuclear fuel cell work better ? Soviet submarine use nuclear fuel cell, and one nuclear fuel cell ball would be able to run submarine for twenty years.

Once nuclear fuel cell got leak then you got short life like probably few hours to few hours.

diehardbiker · 11-17-2011, 11:11 AM

Yup, we are not in accident free society. One accident, anyone in that area.... Well you know what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Once nuclear fuel cell got leak then you got short life like probably few hours to few hours.

**sequoias** · 11-17-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Yes, other vehicle as sedan

Car and Driver Blog » Tesla: Model X Crossover On Sale in Late 2013, Model S Moving Along, $30K Vehicle Planned for 2015/2016

Model S Features | Tesla Motors

Already have a 4 door sedan but it's not cheap. It's about $50,000-60,000.

deafsmogtech · 11-17-2011, 12:36 PM

Hey, How about EMF (Electromagnetic Fields)? Health Risks? What do you guys think?

diehardbiker · 11-17-2011, 12:46 PM

Really don't know, we are living in the world full of magnet. Earth has huge magnet of its own, and we live right on it.

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Originally Posted by deafsmogtech

Hey, How about EMF (Electromagnetic Fields)? Health Risks? What do you guys think?

Evo Dragon · 11-17-2011, 03:43 PM

First electric car was 1996 Saturn EVI only 1,117 cars.
1997 only 660 cars,
1998 only 457 until no longer build Saturn EVI.

Chevy Volt reborn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

Evo Dragon · 11-17-2011, 03:54 PM

Louder and Funnier: Electric Cars of the 1800's

1800's

**Jiro** · 11-17-2011, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

It might be sounding sense BUT don't you realize the true cost of replacing the batteries?

The sales of Hybrid cars has decline a bit already and may go down.

Comparing to regular car and hybrid car when it comes to major and expensive components.

Regular cars, has only two major components Engine and transmission. The rest is not expensive to replace.

Hybrid cars has 4 major components Engine, Transmission, energy reclaiming (Brake), and batteries.

Just think this way, all of the components will fail at some point and need to replace. Just think this way, Hybrid cars may save say 3 or 4 thousands dollars on gas over 8 years, and the replacement of batteries usually around 8 years and it cost easily $5,000 dollars. How is it possible a sensible to get Hybrid Oh wait! there is three other major components that could go wrong. There is no real savings in Hybrid cars anyway.

The only exception for electric cars is that I supported fuel cell, why? Simple, it got two major components. That is Motor and Fuel cell, and Hydrogen is renewable and plenty in the world.

Read on this one Behind the Hidden Costs of Hybrids | Hybrid Cars

it's $5,000 now and probably cheaper in 8 years.

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dereksbicycles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 60202 Posts: 3,799	Rams are cool!! I have a Ram, but that is pretty rude what they're doing there. As for electric cars, the whole world will change once electric cars come in production. Think about it. All gas stations will go out of business. Electric stations will have to be built. People cannot get rich quickly on oil and gas. Electrical fields will become a more demanding field. I would go on and on. I am sure you can add to this.

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dereksbicycles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 60202 Posts: 3,799	Just imagine what happen if the battery die and someone drove an electric car with turbocharged engine. Just imagine going from 150 mph to zero!!!! that is why many people dislike the idea of electric car.

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sequoias Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Iowa, the land of the cornfields and pigs Posts: 21,865	There would be about 15 models of electric vehicles by 2013 and over a million electric cars produced a year by 2015. There should be a electric version of Toyota RAV4 by next year. I dunno about the others, we'll see. I still wonder why there are only one speed transmissions in most electric cars. Why not just put in 2 or 3 speed transmission and that might help extend the battery range. The electric motors would spin at lower speeds. They have 100% torque at zero to redline. The Nissan Leaf has 107 hp and 208 torque. The zero to 60 times is 9.9 secs, not bad for a 3,375 lb car (the battery pack alone weighs 600 lbs). The torque does help a lot.

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Evo Dragon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,471	First electric car was 1996 Saturn EVI only 1,117 cars. 1997 only 660 cars, 1998 only 457 until no longer build Saturn EVI. Chevy Volt reborn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1 __________________ http://www.alldeaf.com/creative-writ...animation.html

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