A Motorcycle Thread About Absolutely Nothing! - Page 16

**Jiro** · 06-25-2010, 03:05 PM

White House Initiative Needs Motorized Recreation Input

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Attend a listening session or share your comments with the administration
On April 16th, the White House administration launched an initiative to promote America's Great Outdoors. The program was announced during an invite-only event at the Department of the Interior (DOI) attended by the President, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar and representatives of conservation and recreation interest groups.

The program will continue with public listening sessions, to be held around the country, that are intended to connect local interests with senior administration officials. Topics to be discussed are the programs and projects that will play key roles in developing a modern conservation and recreation agenda.

Participation from motorized recreation enthusiasts and stakeholders is of the utmost importance at each proposed listening session. The America's Great Outdoors program was kicked-off with words from Governor Bill Richardson (NM) that encouraged the administration to move ahead with exclusionary measures that would block motorized use on public lands without public input. To read the AMA background on that issue, click here.

The White House and administration officials must know that encouraging the use of America's Great Outdoors must include all forms of responsible recreation.

There are two confirmed meetings to be held next week and the AMA is calling on anyone interested in representing responsible motorized recreation to attend:

Charleston, SC
When: Monday, June 28th, 1:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Where: Founders Hall
Charles Towne Landing State Historic Site
1500 Old Towne Road
Charleston, SC
Register: No registration is required

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If you cannot attend a meeting, or one is not being offered in your area, DOI has created an official website for the President's initiative where you can leave your comments on the importance and benefits of responsible motorized recreation. AMA encourages you to visit the America's Great Outdoors website by clicking here.

As always, continue to look to the AMA for more information as the program develops or if more meetings are announced. You can also find out about more off-highway issues at www.AmericanMotorcyclist.com/Rights.

ncff07 · 06-25-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Most stock motorcycle horns are wimpy weak anyway. If someone can't hear your rumble they probably won't hear your horn either.

Theres always the Stebel bike air horn its really loud.

**Reba** · 06-25-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

White House Initiative Needs Motorized Recreation Input

I want to attend that but I'm not sure we can because that's during the work day. I wish the meeting was held in the evening. Apparently they don't want working class people to attend.

Endemic · 06-26-2010, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I wish the horn button is the very top (grey button) because it's easier to reach. That button right now is to flash high-beam light.... utterly useless. The horn button is at my thumb area - red button. Very hard to press it if you're in "oh-shit" moment. Latest model has horn at top. That's why I couldn't honk at that dumb jaywalker when I was doing hard stop.

Pay very close attention to my 5 cents cruise control (the yellow O-ring)

Cruise Control OFF

Cruise Control ON

LoL. Bummer.

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I wish the horn button is the very top (grey button) because it's easier to reach. That button right now is to flash high-beam light.... utterly useless. The horn button is at my thumb area - red button. Very hard to press it if you're in "oh-shit" moment. Latest model has horn at top. That's why I couldn't honk at that dumb jaywalker when I was doing hard stop.

I have the same problem with my Jeep Cherokee horn. It has two buttons, one on each side of the steering wheel. I can't reach them from the driving position. If I want to honk the horn I have to let go my hand from the wheel to reach the horn. That's not good for quick response. Also, the buttons aren't very sensitive, so I have to hit them with the right amount of pressure and angle. Not convenient at all, so I rarely use them.

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ncff07

Theres always the Stebel bike air horn its really loud.

Those are cool. We might do that.

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Pay very close attention to my 5 cents cruise control (the yellow O-ring)

TCS's throttle rocker:

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 11:58 AM

My horn buttons that are positioned below my hands when steering:

**Jiro** · 06-26-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I have the same problem with my Jeep Cherokee horn. It has two buttons, one on each side of the steering wheel. I can't reach them from the driving position. If I want to honk the horn I have to let go my hand from the wheel to reach the horn. That's not good for quick response. Also, the buttons aren't very sensitive, so I have to hit them with the right amount of pressure and angle. Not convenient at all, so I rarely use them.

yep. i hate it when there is a button horn. the original design (the center) was simple and best. too bad the design changed since introduction of airbag. it's unfortunate that the design gets more and more complicated.

**Jiro** · 06-26-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

TCS's throttle rocker:

ah yes - that one.... yea it's commonly called as "Cramp Buster". the $5-10 solution.

Throttle Rocker.... I would be surprised if people confused it with Kaoko Throttle Lock. It's pretty expensive but so dang clever. It's about $600 for my bike.

YouTube - Kaoko Cruise Control

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

ah yes - that one.... yea it's commonly called as "Cramp Buster". the $5-10 solution.

It made long-distance riding much more comfortable for TCS's hand. Cheap fix for maximum results.

**Reba** · 06-26-2010, 04:29 PM

TCS bought a lift for his bike to make maintenance easier. He did his 1,000-mile oil and filter change.

**Jiro** · 06-28-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

TCS bought a lift for his bike to make maintenance easier. He did his 1,000-mile oil and filter change.

interesting lift! Never saw this before.... particularly because I wasn't looking for one since I don't have my own garage

**Jiro** · 06-28-2010, 02:03 AM

Reba and TCS - I don't know if you know this for sure but I just asked my mom about pronouncing "Hyosung".

It's pronounced like this - "H-yo Sung (with strong, quick emphasis)"

**Reba** · 06-28-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

Reba and TCS - I don't know if you know this for sure but I just asked my mom about pronouncing "Hyosung".

It's pronounced like this - "H-yo Sung (with strong, quick emphasis)"

We have a Korean friend at church, and TCS asked her how to pronounce it when he first bought it. Even still, many bikers say, "huh?'

(Technically, TCS's bike has the UM emblem on it, which means United Motors but it's the same company.)

authentic · 06-28-2010, 04:30 PM

Soviet Bike > Endemic's bike

0-60: .03 nanoseconds

**Jiro** · 06-29-2010, 10:47 PM

I just had a pants-shitting moment just a few hours ago... I was on the way home from Brooklyn along FDR. The temperature was great. The traffic was minimal. The traffic speed was around 60mph. All of sudden - I saw a van swerving something and then a quick second later... I was swerving too...... because of biker trying to start his disabled superbike

people need to get off the highway if their vehicles are in questionable shape

**TinCanSailor** · 06-29-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I just had a pants-shitting moment just a few hours ago... I was on the way home from Brooklyn along FDR. The temperature was great. The traffic was minimal. The traffic speed was around 60mph. All of sudden - I saw a van swerving something and then a quick second later... I was swerving too...... because of biker trying to start his disabled superbike

people need to get off the highway if their vehicles are in questionable shape

Sounds like you need to expand your 2-second rule to about 6 or 8.

I agree that guy needs to get off the road to work on his bike.

**JClarke** · 06-30-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I just had a pants-shitting moment just a few hours ago... I was on the way home from Brooklyn along FDR. The temperature was great. The traffic was minimal. The traffic speed was around 60mph. All of sudden - I saw a van swerving something and then a quick second later... I was swerving too...... because of biker trying to start his disabled superbike

people need to get off the highway if their vehicles are in questionable shape

Just a little off-topic but it is to your post - I keep at least 6- 8 second rule in between cars because they can sudden stop at anytime - thats why I am afraid to crash my car again. (Yes, I crashed my car twice in my life)

The Highlander · 06-30-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Just a little off-topic but it is to your post - I keep at least 6- 8 second rule in between cars because they can sudden stop at anytime - thats why I am afraid to crash my car again. (Yes, I crashed my car twice in my life)

Depend weight of vehicles and technology of vehicles (ESC,ABS,etc.). I have no problem with two seconds rules for over 11 years.

Two seconds rules for sport cars and 6 seconds rules for trucks and classic vehicles.

The Highlander · 06-30-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I just had a pants-shitting moment just a few hours ago... I was on the way home from Brooklyn along FDR. The temperature was great. The traffic was minimal. The traffic speed was around 60mph. All of sudden - I saw a van swerving something and then a quick second later... I was swerving too...... because of biker trying to start his disabled superbike

people need to get off the highway if their vehicles are in questionable shape

Good thing you are okay.

**JClarke** · 06-30-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Depend weight of vehicles and technology of vehicles (ESC,ABS,etc.). I have no problem with two seconds rules for over 11 years.

Two seconds rules for sport cars and 6 seconds rules for trucks and classic vehicles.

No wonder I used the 2 second rule against my old shitty car

yes, I crashed that car ..5 years ago.

The Highlander · 06-30-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

No wonder I used the 2 second rule against my old shitty car

yes, I crashed that car ..5 years ago.

Good thing you are safe.

I am sure you feel big different between your old car and Ford Fiesta for brake system.

**JClarke** · 06-30-2010, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Good thing you are safe.

I am sure you feel big different between your old car and Ford Fiesta for brake system.

Oh, my 2009 fiesta is much better than my commodore!

I think I have successfully derailed this thread

I think I should move this to the car thread, should I?

**Jiro** · 06-30-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

Oh, my 2009 fiesta is much better than my commodore!

I think I have successfully derailed this thread

I think I should move this to the car thread, should I?

lol I don't care

**Jiro** · 06-30-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TinCanSailor

Sounds like you need to expand your 2-second rule to about 6 or 8.

that's what I always do but it's tough in NYC cuz the drivers always cut in. ALWAYS!!! So it's usually 3-seconds rule for me in NYC. NYC drivers.... the worst.... they don't know how to drive safely

We Joisey hate them Yankees driving in Joisey.

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Originally Posted by TinCanSailor

I agree that guy needs to get off the road to work on his bike.

it's incredibly unfortunate that it happened to him especially in FDR because there's mostly no emergency lane. He pulled as far as he can to the right. He should not have ridden it on highway if his bike was in questionable condition.

**Jiro** · 06-30-2010, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Highlander

Depend weight of vehicles and technology of vehicles (ESC,ABS,etc.). I have no problem with two seconds rules for over 11 years.

Two seconds rules for sport cars and 6 seconds rules for trucks and classic vehicles.

it doesn't matter. you must always do "3-6 seconds rule" because it's simply safe. It doesn't matter if you have a modern car with state-of-art technology equipped with sensors and chips. It doesn't matter you're driving Porsche, BMW, Bugatti, etc. It's the human that can't be upgraded with state-of-art technology.

I'm not telling you how to drive but I simply don't agree with your reasoning with 2-seconds rule. It's great that you haven't had problem with 2-seconds rule for over 11 years but it only takes just 1 mistake that will make your 11 years meaningless.

Endemic · 06-30-2010, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by authentic

Soviet Bike > Endemic's bike
0-60: .03 nanoseconds

hahah

**Jiro** · 06-30-2010, 05:51 AM

oh - for clarification purpose... FDR is the East-side highway of NYC and WSH (West Side Highway) is, of course, the west side of NYC. WSH is pretty safe and easy to ride on but FDR is quite hair-raising. I'm sure Jake can attest to that

WSH and FDR are drastically different. WSH is easy to ride on and it's safe because the first half has traffic lights and then the rest is just 3-lanes straightaway. WSH is open view and the road is good. It has emergency lanes/parking area all over.

But FDR.... it's definitely not for weak stomach or beginners. The road condition can change rapidly in just matter of seconds and it has several scenarios - semi-tunnel (under the building), under-pass, construction sites, flood area, dark area with no light, etc. The road condition is highly unpredictable and there is hardly any place to pull over for emergency. But..... the major advantage about FDR is a very quick drive. It has no traffic lights and it's a fast-paced highway.

Despite of these road hazards on FDR.... the biggest safety concern is the slow driver (or beginner).

**JClarke** · 06-30-2010, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

oh - for clarification purpose... FDR is the East-side highway of NYC and WSH (West Side Highway) is, of course, the west side of NYC. WSH is pretty safe and easy to ride on but FDR is quite hair-raising. I'm sure Jake can attest to that

I definitely remember that!

06-28-2010, 02:03 AM	#464 (permalink)
Jiro Aparecium Deletrius Legil Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Soprano State Posts: 60,512	Reba and TCS - I don't know if you know this for sure but I just asked my mom about pronouncing "Hyosung". It's pronounced like this - "H-yo Sung (with strong, quick emphasis)" __________________ - Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95

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06-29-2010, 10:47 PM	#467 (permalink)
Jiro Aparecium Deletrius Legil Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Soprano State Posts: 60,512	I just had a pants-shitting moment just a few hours ago... I was on the way home from Brooklyn along FDR. The temperature was great. The traffic was minimal. The traffic speed was around 60mph. All of sudden - I saw a van swerving something and then a quick second later... I was swerving too...... because of biker trying to start his disabled superbike people need to get off the highway if their vehicles are in questionable shape __________________ - Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95

06-30-2010, 05:51 AM	#479 (permalink)
Jiro Aparecium Deletrius Legil Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Soprano State Posts: 60,512	oh - for clarification purpose... FDR is the East-side highway of NYC and WSH (West Side Highway) is, of course, the west side of NYC. WSH is pretty safe and easy to ride on but FDR is quite hair-raising. I'm sure Jake can attest to that WSH and FDR are drastically different. WSH is easy to ride on and it's safe because the first half has traffic lights and then the rest is just 3-lanes straightaway. WSH is open view and the road is good. It has emergency lanes/parking area all over. But FDR.... it's definitely not for weak stomach or beginners. The road condition can change rapidly in just matter of seconds and it has several scenarios - semi-tunnel (under the building), under-pass, construction sites, flood area, dark area with no light, etc. The road condition is highly unpredictable and there is hardly any place to pull over for emergency. But..... the major advantage about FDR is a very quick drive. It has no traffic lights and it's a fast-paced highway. Despite of these road hazards on FDR.... the biggest safety concern is the slow driver (or beginner). __________________ - Don't forget to buy Jiro's Special Edition Sunglasses for $19.95

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