purplecatty

Hey Ya all...

Every morning, your Car or Truck sitting outside of driveway or parking lot overnight and when it's cool out with dew on Windshield in the dawning of the day.....

When engine is cold and is running, have you ever wonder why your Front Windshield won't clear out quickly when using wiper no matter if you already replaced it with new wiper. Every wipe that Wiper does, the windshield quickly "fogs" in seconds.

IF any of you have Rear Wiper... Using Rear Wiper did clears out quickly and leave no "fogs" on Rear Windshield.

What I know is that the 'film' depost on Front Windshield is causing problem. 'Films' on Windshield usually came from oil, dust, chemical, bugs splats goo, ect.. that are hard to remove.

Does anyone have solution to the problems with Front Windshield. The only thing is when engine is warm enough and run defrost and it'll clear out "fogs" outside of Front Windshield (heat through the glass to outside dissipates the "fogs"). Not everyone have patience to wait before going to Work or drop kids off to School ect..

Catty

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Jiro

I know that feeling. It's annoying!

I dunno why it does that!

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sequoias

Yeah, I have the same issue too...I couldn't see a thing out there when it fogs up really quickly when I leave the place...I had to stop and wait until it clears up...ugh. It's the film inside the car and outside the car...causing the fog to form...kinda like the way the natural fog forms.

Christer

I know it's annoying but when I see windshield fog, I usually walk to car and turn engine on then come back home and wait for 15 mins or til fog out then come out and goes to work. One thing I found out why I have two remote keys once my fiancee bought car Taurus; one for unlock and trunk open and other one remote for turn on engine, cool so that's mean I can turn engine on by using remote and leave engine on til fog out, lol.

purplecatty

I have Remote Start system for my Durango but I haven't fully install it It's the tach wire (ignition sensing wire) issue that was designed for older car with sparkplug coil to distributor. Instruction say that you must wrap the wire around the sparkplug wire 5 times and tape it. My Durango have modern built-in sparkplug coil on top of plugs and I tried to wrap the wire on tube and plug it but doesn't work. Its main purpose is for telling the Remote Start computer that engine is up and running. Without it, it'll keep cranking when Engine already running after few cranks. I wish I should not have had bought it the first place. It was past 30 days money back. I'm going to figure out the way around anyway..

Catty

The Highlander

I am not sure what do you mean by "sparkplug coil to distrbutor?"

I make a list which one you talk about.

Coil-on-plug
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distributor without coil
http://z.about.com/d/autorepair/1/0/...tor-amazon.jpg

distributor with coil
http://content.mamotorworks.com/img300/fr8721.jpg

Coil pack.
http://markhere.net/images/Saturn%20Coil%20Pack.jpg




I helped my friend to install the remote start system on his Dodge RAM 2003 (not sure what year it was) and his engine use COP (coil-on-plug) so just connection to coil-on plug's hot wire. Everything work great. It take around 3 hours to done.

If engine keep cranks without start by remote then you need double check around wires under your dashboard that where connection to start system device to make sure they correct. Sometime wires are color confused. You see wire "red/orange" but real is "red/yellow". I hate that happen.

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The Highlander

That's what garage for.

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Reba

Can't do that in South Carolina. It's against the law to leave a running car unattended.

Reba

Heh, heh, I wish I could squeeze my Jeep into the garage with Hubby's van and Jeep.

My Jeep doesn't have rear window or mirror defrosters, so on foggy or frosty days I have to use a squeegee or towel to wipe down all my windows and mirrors before driving off. I keep a towel handy in the front seat for "touch ups."

Jiro

oh my.. ghetto style

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sallylou

There's a product that you put on the inside of the window that is supposed to help. I don't know if it will work in all climates. Seems to help me but I live in a mild climate.

Here's a recipe for a DIY anti-fog solution:

How to Make Your Own Anti-Fog Glass and Windshield Spray | eHow.com

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Milwaukee

that nothing.

Everyday in morning 6 a.m. I must scrap frost off window before I drive it.

I rather have dew than frost.


You need set temperature control to defrost that will help melt fog faster.


Don't use heater until engine is warm up enough or it will keep fog longer.


use cold turn on HI at window it will gone fast.

I deal this almost everyday in Fall to Spring.

Reba

Thanks, I might try that.

Mr. Averythest

um... move to a dry place like colorado.

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deafsmogtech

Install aftermarketed Remote Start systems on any OBD-II vehicles is no no no. They can cause no start or driveability problems even no OBD-II communication with scan tool.

purplecatty

Ah Yes Coil On Plug! That's what it called. I didn't check to find out what it called.

Both of my 05' Jeep and Durango have them. That was my issue with remote start system. I am having second thought. I may plan to buy another remote start system that is suited for modern car.

Catty

purplecatty

I never had problem with OBDII system. I did hotwired my Durango and got it up and running without key hee hee hee. I found out that it use "AND" logic system to enable the vehicle. But the issue is that I have to have pair of electromagnet relays for cutoff in case if there are break-in. Most of the wiring from Remote/Security system are just sensing. One of the wire is for lock/unlock the power lock. Chrystler use one wire to unlock/lock the power door by using 100 ohm and 330 ohm resistor paired up to one wire.

The only problem is that the remote/security system uses ignition sensing wire that require wrapping 4 or 5 times on ignition coil spark wire. The technician told me to do same thing on Coil on plug. It doesn't work. I rather direct connected to tach wire under the dash. I am trying to find a friend who have older ignition system and wanted to measure voltage in order to find out if I can directly connect to tachometer wire under the dash.

I am having second thought. Because I wanted two ways system telling me the truck is up and running. My current remote/security system is two ways. It is a fancy LCD screen with three different warning backscreen colors.. But I realized that what they have was for older car or modern car with older system.. I couldn't get it refund anyway cuz I waited past 30 days. The weather was too cold for me to install it. I got it for Christmas last year that's why.

There are remote start specially made for modern car and it is easy to install. This should not harm OBDII system.

Catty

The Highlander

It is not true! My Subaru 2001 is OBD-II and it have remote start system. It's work fine for over 6 years. It must be depend of brand or human error.

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The Highlander

It should be work. I am going check on my friend what brand of remote start system on his Dodge.

Also technician installed aftermarketed remote start system on my brother's Honda Civic 2007 and it's work great and no problem; it is OBD-II and coil-on-plug.

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The Highlander

What brand of system you use?

My Subaru use Python.
Python - Vehicle Security | Remote Start | GPS Tracking

My brother's Honda use valet.


My friend own Dodge RAM 2001 (I asked him for what year is). He use "ready remote" but he don't have anti-theif system and power window.

Without anti-theif system is very easy job to install the remote start system. His wife own Ford explorer with anti-theif system. I just like forget it.
Ready Remote™ Commitment

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purplecatty

Python Remote/Security system is nice. 1 mile radius with two way remote. Way cool!!.

Mine is a "Spy" Remote/Security system that have "microwave" motion sensing, shock sensing system, can roll up power windows if left attended, voltage indicator on remote to tell you how much volts in car battery, interior temperature of car, ect.. (pretty fancy huh). It's a cheap system but with 2 fancy two way remotes cuz I thought I am not planning on keeping Durango that long when gas price was $4 a gallon years ago... It can go up to 1,000 ft with two way remote. But the actual use when I was testing the system without remote start system, just unlock and lock doors, enable and disable alarm. It works fine when I'm outside about 100 feet from my truck and remote show full bars. BUT when I get into the building, just 10 feet after entering inside of door. Signal went to none. Because the building have foot thick of cement wall around it except dock doors, windows and few doors.

The first system somehow got glitched and died. I was thinking it was freezing outside with humidly that kills it when I left the door opened and played with remote. The black box isn't insulated. Luckily, the seller was willing to make an exchange and I got 2nd box and I'm leery about that (I am thinking about seal it with insulation and install it under the truck dashboard.). I was planning to install it during summer but I got too busy to do it and also was trying to figure out if I can directly connect Ignition sensing wire to Tachometer wire or not (that's one thing that stopped me whole time). Because instruction isn't detailed and Seller was unable get to the source of information about Ignition sensing wire. To be honest, the instruction book and wiring diagrams are not in perfect english (seriously!!). The way how foreign person tried to describe how to use the system was like trying to sign SEE to ASL deaf person.

Maybe I can sell it for $75 bucks to anyone who have automotive with older ignition system and get hell with it.

Catty

The Highlander

My Python have two-ways and it's 1,000 ft. Remember it's 6 years old, if someone kick or break my car then my remote will vibrate to alarm me. I can open the windows by remote during hot summer. Cool?

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rockdrummer

yeah, Wash your front windshield once and a while. There is also special windshield washer fluids that can help too but they are expensive.

Here are a couple of links that show you how to make your own.

How to Make Your Own Anti-Fog Glass and Windshield Spray | eHow.com

How to make your own Anti-Fog Window Treatment

purplecatty

Yeah, I recalled there are a bottle that strips stubborn film off the windshield. It's expensive tho.

catty

deafsmogtech

I'm back, I agree w/ you and catty over the brands of alarm systems that may come with or without remote starts and human errors. I had been seen on some vehicles that exhabited no start, driveablitiy problem. On a customer's car(Honda), I restored the cranking signal wires away from the aftermarketed alarm box that was where the wires were cutted, routing to the alarm box and ignition switch. Suspected defective alarm box but it works with power lock doors. I know nothing about the aftermarketed alarm boxes cuz of no electrical diagrams.
Then the customer came back and complaint no remote start on a same car. My service writer told a customer that the alarm box defected. That was about 5 years ago. I guess the newer systems are better than older systems. I could be wrong?

purplecatty

Yup, It happened to me. The first "black box" I had got defective, it died on its own. So I got an exchanged "black box" and haven't installed it.

Security/Remote system sometime don't last long after many uses or up to 5 to 10 years. Because electronics in "black box" are exposed to extreme temperature changes frequently that make its life short. Unless they're using Military Grade electronic components. (There are three grades of electronic components such as Customer, Industrial, and Military). Eg.. Cochlear Implant uses Military grade components that last 20+ years. I asked Dr about it). There are extra fuses rigged from blackbox for protection. You might want to trace the wire from blackbox to find extra fuse hidden under dash that might have been blown.

Alot of time, Aftermarket Remote/Security system are wired by either customer, friend or installer. Sometime they cut up wire and hook it up. I don't cut wires, I just split the wire insulation and wrap the wire on bare spot and solder it. Except for ignition cut-off relay that require cutting ignition wire and re wire it to relay. You can always find wiring diagrams from Remote/security's brand website or some website provides "general" wiring diagrams. Every vehicles are basically the same except certain models that require extra device to "fool" the OBD II computer into thinking the key/transponder are already in. Or some vehicle use positive grounding. I know it's a hassle to figure it out but you can always trace it back from out to in under dash and write down each connection setup according to Automotive wiring diagram from Mechanic book or print out from Online wiring setup for Remote/security system. Sometime they wired it wrong that can damage or screw up in car wiring system due to that either they're color blinded or second guessing that's the wire without using voltmeter or test lamp. That's the negative part of installing Remote/Security system. It took me 2-3 hours per days (3 days total) to figure out and hook up wiring (I was taking it slow and one at a time). I'm 3/4 done with wiring and it's still hanging out under dash without black box for 6 months cuz I was too busy with other thing and ignition sensing issue that stopped me proceeding my project.

I am planning on going over my friend's house to use the voltmeter and measure the average voltage of "ignition sensing" wire (22 guage insulated wire that wraps 5 or 6 times on ignition spark wire) to see how much voltage go thru. If I find out it's less than 15v, I would plan on directly connect "Ignition sensing" wire to tachometer wire under the dash so that I wouldn't have to go through hassle with Coil on Plug issue. I was making sure I'm not going to damage the "black box" over it. I'm aware that "black box" "ignition sensing" connector have capacitor across it cuz I took the box apart and inspected its board.

I need to get thing going before Mother Nature snowed down on me. I wanted to fire up Durango remotely while I am at work cleaning up mail ect before I head out. So I can have a warm truck with seat heated for my butt to sit on (I have built-in "butt warmer" front seats.). I didn't care about the City law that fobid anyone to leave car running unattended. It's just only for 5 to 10 min. I have done that many time and no one ever notice it cuz too many cars on parking lot. I had extra key so I locked the vehicle. Now with Remote/security system, I wouldn't have to worry about carrying extra key.

Catty

The Highlander

It make sense to me.
I use wire jump clip to connect to wires. It's better than electrical tape for three way wires due engine vibrate and make wires loose. So the wire jump clip is good for vibration-proof.

This is wire jump clip look like.



No one perfect.

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purplecatty

I've used clip on some part of the wiring that I don't want to cut. The problem is that some wires which are 12 guage and sensing wire are 22 guage, the clip don't have that so I had to split the insulation of 12 guage and wrap 22 guage wire around and solder it then tape around it. That's the exception. It depends on how good you tape it with electrical tape (I wrap around wire 4 to 5 times and secure it).

Catty

The Highlander

Good thing I use my friend's clip packs. The pack has all size. Soldering is better than twist the wires. Smart move.

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Jtm

You cant really avoid water condensation. You can reduce it, by cleaning film off window, add rainx compound to your windshield, roll down side windows to let fresh air in to balance water condensation between inside and outside. After condensation problem is solved, roll up window and adjust window heater.