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Old 06-01-2008, 01:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Howsabout that $4.00 gas ? woo hoo

Any chemical engineers amongst us? How about mechanical engineers?

How can I extract hydrogen from water using electrolysis at a rate fast enough to be burned as fuel?

Thinking ..... conversion of pre-existing internal combustion engine to be run on hydrogen.

Can it be done? Will I need to buy stainless steel exhaust, catalytic converter? How do I seperate oxygen from the hydrogen?

All I need is an explosive vapor to get those pistons moving in the combustion chamber.
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Not sure ... but I think we might just have a bit more water (H20) than all the OPEC nations combined.

Water is 2 parts hydrogen, one part oxygen. Hydrogen is very explosive - possibly emits no pollution when burned, and probably makes an engine run cooler.

I am thinking/guessing that out of one gallon of water a full sized SUV could travel 300 miles off of the hydrogen content.

But only if it can be extracted via electrolysis at a rate fast enough to be used as fuel.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Even with Hybrid cars can run without gas, but if not for oil, the hybrid car's engine is dead.
Can you create a car, which is able to run the engine without oil, and fuel?
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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How about running a car with magnets? The permanent magnets without electricity could drive a generator for the electronics, battery and accessories and of course to propel the car forward.
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have a solution... Someone should invent teleportation..
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Any chemical engineers amongst us? How about mechanical engineers?

How can I extract hydrogen from water using electrolysis at a rate fast enough to be burned as fuel?

Thinking ..... conversion of pre-existing internal combustion engine to be run on hydrogen.

Can it be done? Will I need to buy stainless steel exhaust, catalytic converter? How do I seperate oxygen from the hydrogen?

All I need is an explosive vapor to get those pistons moving in the combustion chamber.
You will need the best chemistry set that ToysRUs sells.
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Back to the Future I - Doc took waste food from garbage.
I like that part to re-use our garbage.
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I heard a story about an older gentleman who made a dune buggy to run on hydrogen. He made his own hydrogen via an elctrolysis device that was hooked up to a 12v battery.

He refused to sell the patent to oil companies and he was assassinated in 1998. Its not a rumor.

The space shuttle uses hydrogen for fuel. They extract the hydrogen from tap water.........TAP WATER!!!!

The hindenburg blew up because they used hydrogen instead of helium. I am going to be doing my own experimentation with this. I have some mechanical skills because I restore antique motorcycles and have rebuilt motors. I know how engines, carburetors etc. Work. I know hydrogen can be used as fuel. I do not know how to make a device that will rapidly extract hydrogen but I know how to extract using electrolysis using a simple 12v ac adapter and alligator clips.

Once I finally figure it out, all those arab opec nations can just kiss my a$$
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Old 06-01-2008, 02:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah there's major company working on it now.. (honda ) and (toyota) I remember reading one article that they succeed running on H2O but they cannot extract it fast enough for the engine...so they were saying that u'll need a size of semi trailer of equipment to extract all the gases to be able to feed the engine of ford focus continously. that was their setbacks.. I'm sure someone will find a way to extract better and faster.. Hope you'll be the first one to invent it... ; )

I've seen someone mentioned on other message board that the car can successfully run on compressed air. they've succeed it up to 150 miles with one tank that's capable of holding 5k PSI. which makes sense to me.. since they dont use fuel. or wait 4 to 8 hours for cars to be charged.. just plug the car from special compressed air and fill'er up a round 10 min. and u're off to go... and what's cool about it? is the engine design is as same as steam engine back at 1900's but only much better and much lighter compare to our modern engine..... ain't it cool?....
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Old 06-01-2008, 05:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I looked your subject title "woo hoo".
Sound like you are excite $4 per gallon.
I prefer to say YUCK!!! better than woohoo
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I looked your subject title "woo hoo".
Sound like you are excite $4 per gallon.
I prefer to say YUCK!!! better than woohoo

I can see sarcasm is lost on you maybe?

Of course its YUCK!!!

Will it be just a plain 'ol "Yuck" when gas gets to 6, 7, 8 dollars a gallon? Or are people going to actually explore alternative sources of fuel so we can collectively tell OPEC to choke on their own fumes?

Of course, there are so many brilliant patents out there on using alternative fuel, but guess who owns them ...... oil companies. THEY want YOU to be dependent on THEM.

THEY want to gouge your wallet, your livelihood and starve the economy - after all, the majority of Muslims now hate the free western world and OPEC is ... guess what? Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries

OPEC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, are you going to make your wife wear a Burqa now so they will lower gas prices? Will be force women into submission? take away their driving privileges?

What about stoning homosexuals in public? Wait, even better, if your caught stealing perhaps we should just cut off your hands.

That is what they do in Muslim countries where Islam is the law of the land.

No thanks - I would rather take away the item that gives them any power at all. Oil.

They are abusing the privilege to trade with us.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Will Someone Please Caption or provide transcript for this video?

So we can all watch and understand, please any interpreters or captioners i would appreciate your help with this one:

Hydrogen homemade car that runs on tap water - AOL Video
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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All those bubbles you see in that glass cylinder is Hydrogen - he is using electrolysis
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Two years ago, I read some story about air car.
This time you can watch some video with captioning
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
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was this thread moved? hmmmmm censorship?
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I get it ...... It just like ... disappeared ... poof
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I get it ...... It just like ... disappeared ... poof
No, It didn't disappear. I moved it from the General Chat forum to Auto Talk Forum.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:52 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Two years ago, I read some story about air car.
This time you can watch some video with captioning
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thanks for that link - that is pretty cool.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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No, It didn't disappear. I moved it from the General Chat forum to Auto Talk Forum.

Yes - I see why - makes sense to be here.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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!! Good idea >>Very Easy and clean?~ Better than>> oil, smog, gas and other !
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!! Good idea and Very Easy and clean?~ Better than>> oil, smog, gas and other !

Nah, then you's have people teleporting inside bank vaults .....
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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OK guys ... I have some GREAT news !!!!

Two associates of mine have placed a wager with an association of mechanics.

They will be installing a system in their EFI cars that burns hydrogen known as HHO.

They will be recording any increase in MPG and if it works - will be distributing plans FOR FREE !!!!

They are installing these on CURRENT cars - so no, if it works - you will not have to shell out a couple grand and make monthly payments on a new hybrid. You can install on the car you drive right now.

Keeping fingers crossed.

if it doesn't work - we are just gonna try again.
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:13 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Would you hire me to be your bodyguard, because I don't want you to be assassinated.
thanks for the offer lol - I don't want to be assassinated either.
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:29 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Schweisshund, there have been some scams on stuff like that. Why are you telling us about it and that experiment should be kept top secret until it is really successful.
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Schweisshund, there have been some scams on stuff like that. Why are you telling us about it and that experiment should be kept top secret until it is really successful.

Because it should be public knowledge. It will not do any good id its kept private.

Only a handful of people would benefit and this will not change our dependency on foreign oil. If EVERYONE knows how to do this ....... then we would see some major change.


Like I said, if it does not work, I will let you know. If it does, I will distribute free schematics and plans.
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Doesn't the plans which tells you what parts you need would run you a lot of money? I don't believe converting to hydrogen is free to do.
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