purplecatty

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Catty

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purplecatty

1 ft long, 4 in diameter w/ caps PCV pipe as a Hydrogen Reaction Chamber sitting upright position. But be careful with pressure. It must be between 20psi to 60psi with relief valve preset to 75psi maximum. Also use flameback preventer used on welding equiptment to prevent flame going back into chamber and also use 1 way valve too for safety measure. Hose connect to Fuel Injector or inlet of carbeuator.

PCV pipes are safe to use cuz it's rated up to 300 psi. It'll cracks open or pops off caps if overpressurized. It would be filled 1/2 water with stainless steel plates and 1/2 of Hydrogen gas produced by eletrocsys. No need tanks. Can have either more stainless steel plates or another reaction chambers to produce plenty hydrogen instantly.

Catty

VamPyroX

That's a good point...

Mix nuclear power with automobiles and you've got a nuclear bomb that could go off any time.

Know how they say that those airbags are safe? Yet, there are a lot of airbags out there that prematurely go off for unknown reasons or from the slightest touch?

Well, what if that happens if automobiles were nuclear-powered?

I can see sometimes in the future... a runaway grocery cart accidentally hits a car.

KABOOM!

No more Wal-Mart.

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purplecatty

Agreed! anthing can go wrong. Manufacturer defect too. I would be leery over nuclear powered car.

I don't mind having tiny nuclear power plant in my backyard to power my home and make utility pay for my electricity (watch my meter spins backward like crazy and utility will pay me for providing electricty. I pockets money from them LOL. It's legal!! as long as you sell extra power to feed back to utility line, Utility would be HaPpY)

Airbag can go off any time even if a biggest bug or little animals hit the bumper while driving on highway or anyone zapped certain parts related to airbag w/ static electricty. defective ignition switch too.

catty

HorseRace

no more walmart LOl i laughed when you say it here! vampyro

HorseRace

catty, oh oh that one! lol! nimby good one! i didnt think of that..

sequoias

Yep, basically they want space than density.

schweisshund

I can definitely see you put some thought in this ... I don't know you ... but I really like the way you think ....

schweisshund

Catty - could you just use the 12V current from the battery for electrolysis?

sequoias

I heard Honda is working on a solar powered electrosysis for hydrogen powered Hondas. They're doing it in research lab at the moment.

purplecatty

The instruction already called for 12vdc electrosis. It's a pulse electrosis powered by high amperage pulse generator (pulsewave generator).

I have read instructions from "Car run on water". I bought some electronics but didn't have some specific capacitors. Electronic stores locally no longer carry them. I have to order through Online electronics. Problem is that they're ripping me off. Like Digitkey, I only wanted just couple or 3 electronics parts. They'll charge $25 Sh/h!!! I already ordered $18 worth of parts and they added $25 Sh/h. Package arrived and It was bundled with whole bunches of cardboard and bubble wrap just for cute parts. Stupid. It's a big rip off. I would never order parts from Digikey. Same goes for another Online electronics parts. I only need just few and have it mail through simple package without needing all those protections with reasonable cost!! Sheesh. I don't have 100% parts yet. But once I get everything, I would be able to move on and build project and try on my old mower

If you want a copy, PM me and I'll send you an attchment.

Catty

HorseRace

catty, schweisshund i wonder ..is able change engine for my truck to run on water or what.. can my truck able to run on water ?? my truck is toyota tacoma 98 4x2 and it 4 cylc.. let me know..

purplecatty

Stainless steel mainifold, stainless steel exhaust pipe and muffler (all customized by welding shop). Ceramic treatment on top of pistons, ceramic treatment on fuel injector tips (I think because instruction doesn't say where exactly). Basically you'll have to tear engine apart to million pieces and modify then put it all back together.

This modification can cost you over $2,000 so that give you idea how much it cost to modify engine. Plus... The timing of engine, I don't know if you can adjust the timing through handheld computer. So We have no idea because we don't have anything on us and not even started with project.

So Best try any old junk cars that runs. If it works then it'll works on ur truck. Maybe find wrecked Tacoma with good running engine and test em.
I don't know if it's worth it

Win a million dollar lottery and build ur own lab and hundreds of cars and truck to experiments.

Catty

HorseRace

catty LOL! yea true! alot of work..

true about win lottory.. rme! lol!

schweisshund

I heard someone say you do not need to ceramitize your piston rings or change out your exhaust if you get a gas splitter that sends the oxygen through your exhaust.

Anyways, the guy who says he is doing this said he is going to start on this project this weekend.

purplecatty

Ok. I was following the instruction "Car run on water". Who "someone" you are talking about. Was it found in website or through grapevine (rumors). I would be interested in trying out with small modification. As for Gas Splitter to send oxygen thru the exhuast would be interesting to note. Question, would that mean compressed air going thru the splitter? Need a Diagram or Schematic what it would look like and what would it requires.

If you have those information in website. send me a link so I can read about it.

Thanks

Catty

schweisshund

The guy who I am discussing this with is going to do this project this weekend. He promised me schematics and step by step instructions with photos once the project is done.

It is on an antique motorcycle forum, plenty of people are putting their heads together on this project.

He said that the reason why people are told to get stainless steel exhaust is that it makes it rust proof. But that you can put a rust proof additive in the water (gasoline also has a rust proof additive). I am not 100% clear what he means. Hopefully his photos will explain.

I understand the concept - but I need the schematics too. I mean, it makes sense in theory.

I think he meant you have to have a way to seperate oxygen from hydrogen (hydrogen is lighter than oxygen) and the oxygen gets pushed out through your exhaust. Again, he said he will post pics of his project (and another person is paying a mechanic to do this to his car and will also distribute the plans once it is completed).

Believe me, all the forum members are holding these guys to it.

schweisshund

You gotta admit ..... this is not technology that is "made up dream" it exists. It is only a matter of time before we get the puzzle solved

purplecatty

Ok that's fine. No big hurry. I can always look around for info anyway. Yes, Hydrogen is lighter than Oxygen. Remember Hindenburg Blimp in 1940's that caught on fire, It use Hydrogen gas to make it float.

I am well aware that gasoline or any additive treated the pipe with coating. BUT over the time, water deposit may wear out coating and rust through. Stainless steel would be nice but cost money unless you know how to weld stainless steel together as a manifold.

Catty

purplecatty

Yup it's a made up dream but becoming reality. We are getting closer to solving problems producing Hydrogen. Soon enough that it won't be needing electrosys. Aluminuim and Galluim metal in canister and pour water in. It'll produce instant Hydrogen. One guy who work for Electronic company had an "accident" discovery. He was cleaning the parts and pour water in. Water "broiled" and turned brown. Realizing that it's a chemical reaction to produce Hydrogen and Oxygen. The problem is that metal become coated with gunk and must be cleaned frequently. One day will have a Hydrogen producing "pills" that you can drop handful of it and produce hydrogen in tank of water and run car as long until "pills" become dirty and taken out to clean it. So who know soon enough that we won't be relying on Imported oil!!

Catty

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schweisshund

You and I are on the same page my friend

purplecatty

Yup!

crankshaft

dont mind me asking about (schweisshund ).. wanted to check his progress. but noticed that he's was considered guest?.... what happenend?..

inquiring minds wants to know... Thanx

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HorseRace

yea i wonder.. now i waited... what was the result..

purplecatty

He probably look for someone who are wonk on Hydrogen and other alternative fuel. We all can learn and help even make suggestions. Being a team would help to get some of us motivated.

My friend recently AIM'd me that he was thinking about building electric car. I replied that it would cost him nearly $3000 if he can obtain parts from his work (he's a welder for garbage co.). I explained him that Hydrogen is cheaper to build than electric or cheap or free power source for car.

To build electric car, you'll need 6 or 8 banks of 12vdc deep cycle battieres, inverter (converts from DC to AC), Electric or Electronic speed control (can be obtain from forklift or PIE (powered industrial equiptment) manufacturer, thick cabled wires, ammeters, and high amperage fuse.

Electric motor can be around 25 to 100 hp depending on torque and voltage requirment to run the car even it's size (u don't want to drop in Elevator motor in car lol). Can be DC or AC. BUT there are ways to reduce weight by using Planetary gear which commonly in cordless drills (also corded too). Electric motor typically spins about 10,000 rpm or more, if using Plantetary gear, it'll reduce to 4,000 to 6,000 rpm but produces high torque rating that would be enough to run a car on highway speed even pass other cars. Also lighter weight too. For voltage to run electric motor, A/C is better than DC cuz it uses thinner wires on higher voltage than DC which use thicker wires.

I would guess building Hydrogen reactor and pulsewave generator would cost less than $500. Pulsewave generator will produce high amperage pulse for electrosys. Depending on number of plating and it's spacing. It depend if anyone have parts locally or online.

I have read about air powered car. But it requires big air tank and compressor to run a car. I have diagram on V8 air powered engine lol. It require lot modification on engine. Anyone who have machine shop and experience in welding would be lucky.

Hope that one of us would start the projects. I would want to start Hydrogen project but don't have enuf $$ to cover. I already bought 1/2 of electronics parts but need to find and order specific parts before I put it togther for Hydrogen experiment.

Catty

Chevy57

Gasoline price may be up to $5.00 on Independence Day (Fouth of July).

HorseRace

catty, wow you are knowedge thing engine! coool! i learn something..

purplecatty

This is a murder!! No fun on 4th w/ high gas price.

I heard that someone predict it would be $6 gallon this fall. Sheesh

purplecatty

I fixed alot of small engine in the past and also worked at Machine shop for 1 year. My friend taught me alot.

Jiro

Catty - how small of this engine would be? I imagine it's small enough for go-kart size. good luck and I envy you!