RonJaxon

I hope this is the right section to post this.

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CareyJay

And here I thought my spirits would be lifted by this...I am trying to join the Navy, and very frustrated about my hearing disqualifying me.

Evo Dragon

Well, when i was teenager who never vote any who's running for president. They called me. They tried to draft me for be an army recruiter but, my parent told them i'm deaf/hoh and then, they disqualified me for join army. what a waste.

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eggyman

Let hope military changed their politics
I've been asked to join the army and i told them i cannot do that ,He reply to me why not ? I said that i am deaf .he said it is no problem oh well u know what i reply to him "If i join the army and can u imagine some ambush running behind me while i am struggling to hear where is it coming from then i would get shot up my ass He was laughing well i was being serious face :L .
POLICY ,Health & safety and insurances is full bull shit .

sabilamalik

nice video, its really interesting,

Reba

More Keith Nolan threads and posts:

Deaf in the Military

Deaf Americans: Fighting for the chance to serve in the military

deaf and Military service

'I want to serve my country': Deaf man locked in ongoing battle to join the Army

Keith Nolan pushes boundaries by challenging military on deaf soldiers

http://www.alldeaf.com/pictures-vide...-military.html

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596007

I support deaf/hoh in service but, personally I'm what some call a hippie.

Persephone M

Very interesting! I was just wondering about this earlier today. He brings up several good points. If injured veterans have been successfully accommodated, why not admit deaf/HoH people into the military? I am curious where all the non-combat positions are. Are they all in combat zones, or are some here in the US?

MushyCookies

I had a deaf friend who use hearing aids, Jimmy. He got into marine with no problems. They didn't know he was deaf until they found him in the shower with the hearing aids on the bench. haha. I also had a little bit of fun messing with a recuiter over emails. I asked him for opinions on the deaf and why it was not ok to hire them. He replied with a lot of faults in his answers and I PINNED him down on all of them. In one of the emails i asked "So what will the hearing soliders do when they can't hear each other over the sound of multiple things?" He said "they do hand signals" I said "and what do Deaf people do?" "wouldn't they be a bit more safer since they don't have to speak. No enemies would hear us coming" lol. He stopped talking to me after that.

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deafwelder

I talked to a recruiter in high school. I wore hearing aids then. They told me several times to sign up and go to Oakland CA for a physical and hearing test. Let the military decide on my eligibility. By my HS graduation my hearing had gone downhill to the point that I couldn't communicate much without the aids. As I understand it, at the time, new recruits couldn't use the aids to qualify on a heaing test. Officers could sign or re-enlist if they had prescription glasses and their vision was corrected. I guess the armed forces were worried about dead batteries or just unwilling to accomodate. I knew they wouldn't take me. I didn't bother signing up. I do not know what the story is now and am too old and have a kid to take care of.

Moose

[/QUOTE]I had a deaf friend who use hearing aids, Jimmy. He got into marine with no problems. They didn't know he was deaf until they found him in the shower with the hearing aids on the bench. haha. I also had a little bit of fun messing with a recuiter over emails. I asked him for opinions on the deaf and why it was not ok to hire them. He replied with a lot of faults in his answers and I PINNED him down on all of them. In one of the emails i asked "So what will the hearing soliders do when they can't hear each other over the sound of multiple things?" He said "they do hand signals" I said "and what do Deaf people do?" "wouldn't they be a bit more safer since they don't have to speak. No enemies would hear us coming" lol. He stopped talking to me after that.What happened after they found him with the hearing aids and the discovery of his hearing impairment? did he get kicked out?

Moose

What happened after they discovered his hearing impairment? Did he get kicked out??

Reba

When was this? He didn't get a physical exam? They didn't noticed him wearing hearing aids? Did he wear the aids when he was swimming? How long was he in before they noticed his hearing aids? What happened to him?

Moose

Can you please answer the question. I have contacted the Canadian military and plan on sending in the application requirements as soon as possible, but obviously wanted to get some insight. Thanks

MotionInSilver

I agree, its our time as deaf people to enlist as soon the policy changes. Its silly as an American to find out that other countries enlist deaf people and not us.

Its embarrassing to find out that 80% of military positions are noncombatant able to be served by deaf people.

Hope this changes sooner than later for Keith Nolan and the cadet at Citadel to be able to serve before they're too old.

This video made my day as a deaf person that felt like crap for not being able to do a certain simple thing and to see the video just put me on a good mojo to keep on going and continue fighting for my rights as a human being that just happens to be deaf.

sonocativo

I was turned away because I couldnt pass the hearing test, maybe I should throw this in their faces or sue for discrimination?

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Lukin

I always dream of joining military.

If I was hearing, I'd probably kill a million enemies off the face of earth. Also, it would help me with sobriety.

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Reba

Umm, if those are your reasons for wanting to join the military, then you're not suited for service, regardless of hearing status.

The last thing most normal military members want to do is to kill people. They will do it as necessary but it certainly isn't a desire. Also, if you have a problem with sobriety, there's a good chance it will get worse in the military. Drug and alcohol abuse is a problem in the military even though they have programs set up to combat the problem.

Lukin

Actually. This is a pale low in statistics in comparison to most alcoholics who are civilians.

It's even mentioned in the Alcoholic Anonymous bible, which mentioned that soldiers tend to have some degree of tolerance and discipleship.

But of course, I don't expect you to know, since you are not alcoholic yourself...

Just saying.

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Reba

No, I'm not an alcoholic, but I'm the daughter of one, and have other family members who are, including one who is a member of AA.

However, I and my husband are retired members of the military, so I do know what I'm talking about in regards to the military environment.

But of course, I don't expect you to know, since you are not military yourself....

Just saying.

Lukin

I would love to meet them at Alcoholic Anonymous meetings :-)

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...sober day 1 (May 16)

Reba

Meet who?

Lukin

Your family members. Of course, we know that won't happen. I live in Prague anyways.

Na shledanou, dívka!

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...sober day 1 (May 16)

Reba

My dad is deceased; liver disease from drinking.

According to AA rules you wouldn't know them anyway.

You never know where some of my family members might show up.

Frisky Feline

huh? i thought you lived in VA?

Lukin

I was born here in Europe, but my parents decided to go it all out in DC metropolis area. Good jobs there.

The reason I posted this "Northern Virginia" status was because I was afraid that you deaf Americans would reject us deaf Europeans. I wasn't sure at first so thus I experimented. So I really didn't know, since you all seem to be friendly.

I was raised near DC throughout high school years. But after college at RIT, GMU... I was fed up and left back to my homeland because I couldn't handle the American culture. I lived only 20-25 miles away from Washington D.C. and i was tired of the spiral crap.

So yeah there you go. But soon I discovered that it isn't so much different from DC, haha...Such an irony, but I would rather live and die here though.

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...sober day 1 (May 16)

Frisky Feline

cool. so you were born in czech? not sloviaka?

Lukin

Actually. I was born in Vienna. But then we moved to Prague for a while. And so we departed to Washington DC where my dad ended up in Navy Militarism during the golden age of Reagan years (He permitted glasses wearing code, so...)

I'm surprised that you would know this geographical quiz. Most people don't know Czech apart from Slovakia.

Most Americans are geographically idiots (no offense to those, sorry...), as I have noticed. So I am surprised that you asked. I praise your skills! :-)

Now I have more respect for you than ever. Heh!

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...sober day 1 (May 16)

Frisky Feline

LOL. no no I am cheating.. why? I am part of slovakian. my grandma was born there. Until 1993, people asked me, i have to tell the specific is slovakia. Sad, i do not know much about it.

Lukin

I will probably die from liver disease. Here in Prague, there are too many temptations. I have been diagnosed by Czech doctor, which confirmed that I have fatty liver disease. I am sure that you are familiar with that medical condition. It is a pre-cirrhosis stage. I am pretty sure that saywhatkid wanted me dead badly haha.

But I'm not worried at all. I am happy and contained. Just live your life to the fullest.

"According to AA rules you wouldn't know them anyway."? How do you mean by that? I know every step by heart. Have you ever attended to a meeting...?

Ummm... Okayyyy... So you say. :-)

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