Obama signs 21st Century Comm & Video Access Act

**Chevy57** · 10-08-2010, 03:35 PM

www.youtube.com/whitehouse#p/u/0/uNmTyVG2xd4
President Obama signs the Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010. In the spirit of the act, the White House provided live captioning.

21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act | National Association of the Deaf

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 03:40 PM

In the spirit of the act, lol; let's see if they can always do this.....

At any rate, there's still at least one issue with this Act but it is a happy day nevertheless....

**Beowulf** · 10-08-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

In the spirit of the act, lol; let's see if they can always do this.....

At any rate, there's still at least one issue with this Act but it is a happy day nevertheless....

Can you elaborate, Tousi?

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Can you elaborate, Tousi?

Ok, Beo; I think I did elsewhere here. To give you an idea of how resistant these guys at every legal turn they are. This Act basically states that any TV shows that are captioned (which pretty much all are) must also be CCed on the Web. HOWEVER, if a Web-based series of "shows" develops, they, legally, don't have to CC just because they haven't yet been told they have to.

wavedancer · 10-08-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Ok, Beo; I think I did elsewhere here. To give you an idea of how resistant these guys at every legal turn they are. This Act basically states that any TV shows that are captioned (which pretty much all are) must also be CCed on the Web. HOWEVER, if a Web-based series of "shows" develops, they, legally, don't have to CC just because they haven't yet been told they have to.

*whoot whoot *

It's a happy day ! We still got to fight for that last bit though

Let's hope it's a quick fight to get that ! *crosses Fingers against all odds*

**Beowulf** · 10-08-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Ok, Beo; I think I did elsewhere here. To give you an idea of how resistant these guys at every legal turn they are. This Act basically states that any TV shows that are captioned (which pretty much all are) must also be CCed on the Web. HOWEVER, if a Web-based series of "shows" develops, they, legally, don't have to CC just because they haven't yet been told they have to.

Oh, okay, I get it. I sadly shake my head at how few web-based series are captioned and throw up my hands at the quality of Audio Transcriptions. To think that I took part in a street protest against CBS when captioning first came out makes me realize we all are at still the same place, which means it is still up to US to make changes, you know? I don't see the deaf rising up en masse for this, though.
Of course I could be wrong.

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wavedancer

*whoot whoot *

It's a happy day ! We still got to fight for that last bit though

Let's hope it's a quick fight to get that ! *crosses Fingers against all odds*

Sorry to be pessimistic but there's no such thing as a "last bit" as the deaf world has always been behind in many aspects of life and have always had to struggle/fight for that even playing field that seems to be just a few years out of reach.....

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Oh, okay, I get it. I sadly shake my head at how few web-based series are captioned and throw up my hands at the quality of Audio Transcriptions. To think that I took part in a street protest against CBS when captioning first came out makes me realize we all are at still the same place, which means it is still up to US to make changes, you know? I don't see the deaf rising up en masse for this, though.
Of course I could be wrong.

Yeah, there are deaf people/orgs that do, bless them.

wavedancer · 10-08-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Sorry to be pessimistic but there's no such thing as a "last bit" as the deaf world has always been behind in many aspects of life and have always had to struggle/fight for that even playing field that seems to be just a few years out of reach.....

Good Point. I ment "last bit you said" my bad for not being clear :S

Your right. It always seems another day, another fight, or ten struggles But we keep Doing it and hopefully it gets a bit better, day by day, person by person.

Hopefully.

**shel90** · 10-08-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Sorry to be pessimistic but there's no such thing as a "last bit" as the deaf world has always been behind in many aspects of life and have always had to struggle/fight for that even playing field that seems to be just a few years out of reach.....

Speaking of being behind....I noticed the same for automakers installing the voice controlled devices. I dont know what they are called but you can "talk" to your car or when you are in an accident, your car "talks" to you and calls 911 for you. Again, deaf people werent considered when these designs were created. Will that be another fight for us to fight?

deafgal001 · 10-08-2010, 04:40 PM

do you suppose they will put less shows on the web result of this.

I wonder about netflix.

**TWA** · 10-08-2010, 04:43 PM

I've read parts of the bill and seen a lot of hoopla about this, but can someone explain to me what it means?

Does it mean that Netflix will now have to caption all their streaming content? Does it mean that all television shows on the internet must be captioned if they were first aired on TV, and does that cover short clips, or does it only apply to full episodes?

wavedancer · 10-08-2010, 04:48 PM

From what I read if it was captioned on the television, it's got to be captioned on the web. I hope that's correct !

**Chevy57** · 10-08-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

I've read parts of the bill and seen a lot of hoopla about this, but can someone explain to me what it means?

Does it mean that Netflix will now have to caption all their streaming content? Does it mean that all television shows on the internet must be captioned if they were first aired on TV, and does that cover short clips, or does it only apply to full episodes?

Good question. I wonder that all Hollywood movies online like Netflix, Apple TV iTunes, YouTube movies, etc. should be captioned. I won't buy Apple TV and Google TV without closed captioning support.

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Speaking of being behind....I noticed the same for automakers installing the voice controlled devices. I dont know what they are called but you can "talk" to your car or when you are in an accident, your car "talks" to you and calls 911 for you. Again, deaf people werent considered when these designs were created. Will that be another fight for us to fight?

I suppose so, Shel. I have this image in my mind of fingerspelling to my car!!

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wavedancer

From what I read if it was captioned on the television, it's got to be captioned on the web. I hope that's correct !

That's correct, wave; I was speaking about the situation being the other way around. Some day there will be a lot of programming on the Web that might not be on the TV and it won't be captioned unless these folks are mandated to. It just goes on and on.

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 10:35 PM

Ok, folks, here's the thing: This Act will not go into effect for quite a while because the FCC now has to draw up a whole new set of regulations surrounding this.

In the meantime, keep in touch with your legislators or deaf leaders who advocate in this area to make them aware of these gaps.....

**TWA** · 10-08-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Ok, folks, here's the thing: This Act will not go into effect for quite a while because the FCC now has to draw up a whole new set of regulations surrounding this.

In the meantime, keep in touch with your legislators or deaf leaders who advocate in this area to make them aware of these gaps.....

How long as we talking?

**Chevy57** · 10-08-2010, 10:58 PM

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The law sets federal guidelines that require the telecommunications industry to:

_Make getting to the Internet easier by improving the user interfaces on smart phones.

_Provide audible descriptions of on-screen action to help the blind more fully enjoy television.

_Add captions to online TV programming to help the deaf.

_Make the equipment used for Internet telephone calls compatible with hearing aids.

_Add a button or other switch to television remote controls for simpler access to closed captioning on television.

Obama signs technology access bill for disabled - Yahoo! News

TV programs only? Hollywood movie programs on Hulu, Netflix, Apple TV, Google tv, and others online are nothing to support captioning???

**JClarke** · 10-08-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Obama signs technology access bill for disabled - Yahoo! News

TV programs only? Hollywood movie programs on Hulu, Netflix, Apple TV, Google tv, and others online are nothing to support captioning???

I am sure TV programming includes online movie programs.

**Chevy57** · 10-08-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JClarke

I am sure TV programming includes online movie programs.

Act: S. 3304:
-Providing Americans who are deaf the ability to watch new TV programs online with the captions included

See NAD blog:
NAD Applauds Congress for Increasing Access to Technology and the Internet | National Association of the Deaf

Tousi · 10-08-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

How long as we talking?

Danged if I know. But I know you just don't rush State and Federal governments. Their gears are interminably slowwwwwww.

Tousi · 10-14-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWriteAlex

How long as we talking?

Just found this: Caption Action 2: Internet Closed Captioning: Dateline: 2012

**JClarke** · 10-17-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Just found this: Caption Action 2: Internet Closed Captioning: Dateline: 2012

That might give them time to get everything together, right?

**Smithtr** · 10-24-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Just found this: Caption Action 2: Internet Closed Captioning: Dateline: 2012

Really where is found??

navyman · 11-08-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Just found this: Caption Action 2: Internet Closed Captioning: Dateline: 2012

The link below, in the "summary" section, says:

"• By April 2012, the phase-in of the requirement that broadcast television programming containing closed captions include those captions when being delivered via Internet Protocol (including on stations' websites) will commence."

What's disheartening is that it refers to the beginning point of "phase-in" of the requirement will be April 2012, not that it's the deadline for 100% captioning of IP-delivered programming.

Why is it going to take a year and a half for the regulations to be sorted out??? What if the Mayan prophecy is true that the world will end in December 2012? We'll hardly have time to enjoy any kind of extensive programming online!

Client Alert: President Signs the 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act, Creating Wide-Ranging Video Programming Accessibility Requirements Intended to Assist Those with Disabilities - CommLawCenter

**JClarke** · 11-08-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by navyman

The link below, in the "summary" section, says:

"• By April 2012, the phase-in of the requirement that broadcast television programming containing closed captions include those captions when being delivered via Internet Protocol (including on stations' websites) will commence."

What's disheartening is that it refers to the beginning point of "phase-in" of the requirement will be April 2012, not that it's the deadline for 100% captioning of IP-delivered programming.

Why is it going to take a year and a half for the regulations to be sorted out??? What if the Mayan prophecy is true that the world will end in December 2012? We'll hardly have time to enjoy any kind of extensive programming online!

Client Alert: President Signs the 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act, Creating Wide-Ranging Video Programming Accessibility Requirements Intended to Assist Those with Disabilities - CommLawCenter

the end of the world 2012 is absolutely rubbish! No one cares about it. regarding to the 'phrase in' is to give them time to construct an captioning feature to implement to all internet videos across the world wide web - do you expect them to do it by the end of the year?

web730 · 11-09-2010, 05:26 AM

Maybe it will help forcing some to c.c. but ought to assume that some others wouldn't bother to c.c. them like usual.

Let's look back especially recent times that so many DVD movies and TV shows do not show with c.c. on... looks like almost half of them don't have c.c. on!

It has been 30 years since the c.c. was invented for TV. And DVD movies began probably 20 years ago or bit less. Now look where we are with those cc and what-nots.

Why should we believe that all of them will obey the new law demanding c.c. on? Some of them out there will not bother to do it like always that we ought to expect at least.

Though it certainly helps more in this Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act once it's in effect. Wait n see how effect it does.

Only one thing I'm pleased that it demands all TV companies to have the cc button right on front of the TV remotes for the sakes- yeah!

PowerON · 11-09-2010, 09:12 AM

It's good thing that HTML5 has finally support CC on youtube

Mani 420 · 12-11-2010, 04:20 PM

lol at navyman, who believe 2012 is end of world!

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Chevy57 Sherlock Hound Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: O..HI..O! Posts: 10,347	Obama signs 21st Century Comm & Video Access Act www.youtube.com/whitehouse#p/u/0/uNmTyVG2xd4 President Obama signs the Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010. In the spirit of the act, the White House provided live captioning. 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act \| National Association of the Deaf Last edited by Chevy57; 10-08-2010 at 10:30 PM.

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web730 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 2,271	Maybe it will help forcing some to c.c. but ought to assume that some others wouldn't bother to c.c. them like usual. Let's look back especially recent times that so many DVD movies and TV shows do not show with c.c. on... looks like almost half of them don't have c.c. on! It has been 30 years since the c.c. was invented for TV. And DVD movies began probably 20 years ago or bit less. Now look where we are with those cc and what-nots. Why should we believe that all of them will obey the new law demanding c.c. on? Some of them out there will not bother to do it like always that we ought to expect at least. Though it certainly helps more in this Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act once it's in effect. Wait n see how effect it does. Only one thing I'm pleased that it demands all TV companies to have the cc button right on front of the TV remotes for the sakes- yeah! __________________

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,798	In the spirit of the act, lol; let's see if they can always do this..... At any rate, there's still at least one issue with this Act but it is a happy day nevertheless....

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TWA Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,374	I've read parts of the bill and seen a lot of hoopla about this, but can someone explain to me what it means? Does it mean that Netflix will now have to caption all their streaming content? Does it mean that all television shows on the internet must be captioned if they were first aired on TV, and does that cover short clips, or does it only apply to full episodes?

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wavedancer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54	From what I read if it was captioned on the television, it's got to be captioned on the web. I hope that's correct !

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,798	Ok, folks, here's the thing: This Act will not go into effect for quite a while because the FCC now has to draw up a whole new set of regulations surrounding this. In the meantime, keep in touch with your legislators or deaf leaders who advocate in this area to make them aware of these gaps.....

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Mani 420 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 11	lol at navyman, who believe 2012 is end of world!