SSI Is a Joke - Page 2

Mr. Averythest · 11-02-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

Isn't there an income cutoff for eligibility?

Yes. of course. But I was trying to display that the blind people as in whole can have very successful careers while they still choose to be on the system, and I butchered it. my apologies.

I was talking about three people, one being the "Testing Standard", a worker for IBM that makes 90k.

The other two draws SSDI, and are very capable of working in any field they desire.

Hope that clarifies.

Mr. Averythest · 11-02-2009, 07:37 PM

To be honest, when I was towards the end of being on the system I actually thought about really pushing it and buying a BMW.

Then write a book about the experience and see how many pissed off people there are. But it wasn't worth it. What I have now is much better.

dogmom · 11-02-2009, 07:46 PM

posts from hell, for clarifying the "Jewish" phrasing in one of your posts.
I do agree that there is generally large collective assistance in Jewish community, at least as far as I have seen where I am <and am Jewish>, which tends to stem from earlier needs to group together and make own help due to Anti-Semitism. I will say, though that there is also division in Jewish community which "outsiders" might not see; that is, as is anywhere there is racism; there other divisions.

Doug5 · 11-02-2009, 07:48 PM

pfh I dont believe you. You sound like a troll

dogmom · 11-02-2009, 07:49 PM

I imagine that peoples' experiences w/SSI also affected by locality-

Mr. Averythest · 11-02-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug5

pfh I dont believe you. You sound like a troll

Fine with me.

There are other people that already confirmed what I said. *hint: check your other thread.*

So I am not lying.

Reba · 11-02-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

Yes. of course. But I was trying to display that the blind people as in whole can have very successful careers while they still choose to be on the system, and I butchered it. my apologies.

I was talking about three people, one being the "Testing Standard", a worker for IBM that makes 90k.

The other two draws SSDI, and are very capable of working in any field they desire.

Hope that clarifies.

Cowpuppy · 11-02-2009, 11:03 PM

No I think the max is about $860-$890...I quit it two years ago in California...California and Florida have the highest .SSI. The lower is about 640 I think...depending on your situation...if you rent.
At 890 it's about same as minimum wage in calif. It's not meant to live well off of...it's called supplemental income.
Everytime ssi went up in california the prices for everything went up with it....landlors etc read it and boom. bs.
but there are medical and dental and eyewear benefits which add up.
just doesn't quite cut the mustard though.

KristinaB · 11-02-2009, 11:28 PM

I started getting SSI about 2 years ago. I was living in Missouri at the time and was getting $985. I am not in Florida and still get the same $985 per month. I am late deafened, but I also have neuropathy on the right side. I am totally numb from shoulder to ankle on the outer side of the body. It is totally unexplained. I fall quite frequently and have broken my chin numerous time just while in WalMart trying to push a shopping cart. I now have to use the motorized cart. Doen't help when I am picking up groceries for a family of 5. Due to my hubby working, we don't qualify for food stamps for medicaid. I will qualify for medicare in another 1-2 years due to my SSI. I'm not proud that I am getting it, but since I lost my paycheck of $500 a week, this $985 a month is better than nothing. I am unable to stand for more than 2-3 minutes at a time, and I can't sit for long periods of time. (Church is real fun!) I can't use a telephone. I stay at home taking care of my mother, mother-in-law and 2 teens. I home school my teens. My SSI covers the car payments we've had since before I lost my hearing and the vehicle and boat insurance each month. Hubby's paycheck barely covers the groceries, phone and gasoline each week. We live with mother-in-law, so the electric and water are her bills and the house is paid off.

I lost the job, due to a move from Central Missouri to Eastern Missouri.

jillio · 11-03-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Isn't that the idea? To pull yourself up by your bootstraps and show what your'e made of? To get off the suckling of the government teat?

That is exactly the idea. SSI is not intended to be a complete support program, but a supplemental assistance program that helps people in a time limited period to find a job, receive training, etc.

PowerON · 11-03-2009, 12:25 PM

Use SSI when you're very seriously in lack condition. That's all but don't abuse govt's system.

Frisky Feline · 11-03-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

Use SSI when you're very seriously in lack condition. That's all but don't abuse govt's system.

I agree any deaf people can find any kind of jobs that pays more than SSI.

Doug5 · 11-03-2009, 11:18 PM

Some of the replys to this thread shows the prejudice against disabled people receiving ssi. "Most of them are cheating the system and dont need it" or "theyre getting way over paid and ripping off the system" "disabled people can work no matter what" blah blah blah

What about the 10% unemployed in this recession? I supposed theyre all just a bunch of lazy bums that would rather collect unemployment and work.

Mr. Averythest · 11-04-2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug5

Some of the replys to this thread shows the prejudice against disabled people receiving ssi. "Most of them are cheating the system and dont need it" or "theyre getting way over paid and ripping off the system" "disabled people can work no matter what" blah blah blah

What about the 10% unemployed in this recession? I supposed theyre all just a bunch of lazy bums that would rather collect unemployment and work.

Doug - why the anger. Look around, it's true for most part. What we are stating is FACTS, not prejudice.

What about the 10% unemployed you ask? MOST of them can't even get on SSI/SSDI.

And a question - "They're getting way overpaid" Where did we say that?

CJB · 11-04-2009, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

Prior to the inception of the SSI program, what did people in your situation do?

Probably relied on their parents or other relatives.

CJB · 11-04-2009, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

Blind people have higher limitations over any other people with disabilities.

Personally I think my blindness is the least of my disabilities.

radioman · 11-04-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KristinaB

I started getting SSI about 2 years ago. I was living in Missouri at the time and was getting $985. I am not in Florida and still get the same $985 per month. I am late deafened, but I also have neuropathy on the right side. I am totally numb from shoulder to ankle on the outer side of the body. It is totally unexplained. I fall quite frequently and have broken my chin numerous time just while in WalMart trying to push a shopping cart. I now have to use the motorized cart. Doen't help when I am picking up groceries for a family of 5. Due to my hubby working, we don't qualify for food stamps for medicaid. I will qualify for medicare in another 1-2 years due to my SSI. I'm not proud that I am getting it, but since I lost my paycheck of $500 a week, this $985 a month is better than nothing. I am unable to stand for more than 2-3 minutes at a time, and I can't sit for long periods of time. (Church is real fun!) I can't use a telephone. I stay at home taking care of my mother, mother-in-law and 2 teens. I home school my teens. My SSI covers the car payments we've had since before I lost my hearing and the vehicle and boat insurance each month. Hubby's paycheck barely covers the groceries, phone and gasoline each week. We live with mother-in-law, so the electric and water are her bills and the house is paid off.

I lost the job, due to a move from Central Missouri to Eastern Missouri.

I am sorry what you went through- looks like you are finally back on your feet and have a roof over your head. I am sure you are counting your blessing for hte SSI checks. Without it, you probably will be in the poorhouse with the druggies/nasty people area. Am I right ?

radioman · 11-04-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug5

Some of the replys to this thread shows the prejudice against disabled people receiving ssi. "Most of them are cheating the system and dont need it" or "theyre getting way over paid and ripping off the system" "disabled people can work no matter what" blah blah blah

What about the 10% unemployed in this recession? I supposed theyre all just a bunch of lazy bums that would rather collect unemployment and work.

By judging from your comments and posts, I would say you are feeling burned and feeling hatred towards those that are receiveing the checks. The SSA is a government and it seems with EVERY government agency that everything MUST be vague so people won't take the most advantage of the assistance to get back on thier feet. I am sure that you are just venting. as for collecting unemployment, I have experience first hand that collecting those checks is no fun. They make you earn it at least. IF they suspect you are NOT looking, they will stop the checks fast. SSI/SSD only stops if earned too much and/or didnt tell them about your earnings. Many times honesty is the best policy and just take it with a grian of salt and get it over with so you can go back and get the FULL amount you may be entitled to.

KristinaB · 11-04-2009, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioman

I am sorry what you went through- looks like you are finally back on your feet and have a roof over your head. I am sure you are counting your blessing for hte SSI checks. Without it, you probably will be in the poorhouse with the druggies/nasty people area. Am I right ?

Too true. I am thankful for what I am getting. While in MO we were in danger of losing house and all. We had a need to move back to Florida and it seemed like an answer to a prayer. While it is not easy having a parent living with you (my mother has lived with us for our whole marriage), we are now living with my mother-in-law. It ain't easy. M-I-L provides the roof, electric and water. We are barely making it, but at least we will always have the roof. M-I-L is leaving house and all monies to either my kids or my hubby. (She never approved of our marriage).

We ere living out in the country and in a very safe area, but now we are almost in a downtown area of West Palm Beach, FL. Not exactly in a rural setting anymore.

shel90 · 11-04-2009, 08:47 PM

I agree with Doug5...if someone has disabiling conditions especially with chronic pain or terminal illness and really cant work at all, why should they be punished by being forced into extreme poverty?

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

I agree with Doug5...if someone has disabiling conditions especially with chronic pain or terminal illness and really cant work at all, why should they be punished by being forced into extreme poverty?

but it isn't extreme poverty. it's just enough to live with modesty. at least this person will have a roof on his/her head, food paid for, utility bills paid for.

shel90 · 11-04-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

but it isn't extreme poverty. it's just enough to live with modesty. at least this person will have a roof on his/her head, food paid for, utility bills paid for.

I disagree...nobody can afford a place let alone food, utilities, and other expenses on SSI alone here in MD. Unless they want to live in a very rough and crime-ridden neighborhood.

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

I disagree...nobody can afford a place let alone food, utilities, and other expenses on SSI alone here in MD. Unless they want to live in a very rough and crime-ridden neighborhood.

then move to somewhere affordable. beggar can't be a chooser. he should be glad enough to have some money in his pocket for free.

shel90 · 11-04-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

then move to somewhere affordable. beggar can't be a chooser. he should be glad enough to have some money in his pocket for free.

Sometimes, it is not possible. There are children involved and sometimes there are situations where they cant move due to court orders and etc. I know so many people who would love to move to a cheaper state but are stuck here in Maryland due to custody issues or other reasons. When children are in the picture, things become much more complicated.

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

Sometimes, it is not possible. There are children involved and sometimes there are situations where they cant move due to court orders and etc. I know so many people who would love to move to a cheaper state but are stuck here in Maryland due to custody issues or other reasons. When children are in the picture, things become much more complicated.

I'm sure there are system and charity programs to help them out. I didn't know this country is supposed to be Mother Teresa.

Mr. Averythest · 11-04-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

I'm sure there are system and charity programs to help them out. I didn't know this country is supposed to be Mother Teresa.

I am seriously refraining from listing all the benefits you can get while being on SSI.

I'll say this - You can live ANYWHERE in the USA, Lake Tahoe, DT NYC, etc just fine on SSI.

Mr. Averythest · 11-04-2009, 10:01 PM

Jiro - PM sent, lmk if you think it's still tough out there on SSI

Jiro · 11-04-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

Jiro - PM sent, lmk if you think it's still tough out there on SSI

do it!

Foxrac · 11-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

I agree with Doug5...if someone has disabiling conditions especially with chronic pain or terminal illness and really cant work at all, why should they be punished by being forced into extreme poverty?

Agreed with you, second here.

Grummer · 11-06-2009, 09:59 PM

Jiro, you are naive, just because you are spoilt with a more affluent background and education, doesnt mean you actually 'knows' , being in a situation where it is impossible to move, come to think of it, it would cost ALOT just to dump where you are and move out to somewhere safer, but there comes a catch-22 situation as a lack of high-end professional qualifications and experience is going to seriously knock you right back to square one, and all this 'regulations' unique to each places (states, city, town etc) is designed not to 'offer' use of public utility or such but to actually reproduce inequality, thus re-create that poverty-like existence.
It will be a waste of time try explaining the rest to someone like you because it will be like talking to someone who has Nooooo freakin Idea about economic Hardship.

11-02-2009, 07:37 PM	#32 (permalink)
Mr. Averythest apotheosis, paragon of Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,841	To be honest, when I was towards the end of being on the system I actually thought about really pushing it and buying a BMW. Then write a book about the experience and see how many pissed off people there are. But it wasn't worth it. What I have now is much better. __________________ Bewb patrol here. I'd love to see your bewbs, please send them to me in PM here. Sets of bewbs sent to my pm box: 6 w00t! You guys are awesome! Keep sendin' em in! Itchy groin ASL and Deaf happy hour at Avery Brewery info (January 5th 2010)

11-02-2009, 11:28 PM	#39 (permalink)
KristinaB Loving Life!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sunny WPB, FL Posts: 674	I started getting SSI about 2 years ago. I was living in Missouri at the time and was getting $985. I am not in Florida and still get the same $985 per month. I am late deafened, but I also have neuropathy on the right side. I am totally numb from shoulder to ankle on the outer side of the body. It is totally unexplained. I fall quite frequently and have broken my chin numerous time just while in WalMart trying to push a shopping cart. I now have to use the motorized cart. Doen't help when I am picking up groceries for a family of 5. Due to my hubby working, we don't qualify for food stamps for medicaid. I will qualify for medicare in another 1-2 years due to my SSI. I'm not proud that I am getting it, but since I lost my paycheck of $500 a week, this $985 a month is better than nothing. I am unable to stand for more than 2-3 minutes at a time, and I can't sit for long periods of time. (Church is real fun!) I can't use a telephone. I stay at home taking care of my mother, mother-in-law and 2 teens. I home school my teens. My SSI covers the car payments we've had since before I lost my hearing and the vehicle and boat insurance each month. Hubby's paycheck barely covers the groceries, phone and gasoline each week. We live with mother-in-law, so the electric and water are her bills and the house is paid off. I lost the job, due to a move from Central Missouri to Eastern Missouri. __________________ KRISTINAB

11-03-2009, 12:25 PM	#41 (permalink)
PowerON Click me 12 time Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Suddenly, I'm cowboy. Posts: 6,863 Blog Entries: 4	Use SSI when you're very seriously in lack condition. That's all but don't abuse govt's system. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

11-04-2009, 08:47 PM	#50 (permalink)
shel90 In a pink and black world Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: In the land of the free Posts: 24,083 Blog Entries: 3	I agree with Doug5...if someone has disabiling conditions especially with chronic pain or terminal illness and really cant work at all, why should they be punished by being forced into extreme poverty? __________________ Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

11-04-2009, 10:01 PM	#57 (permalink)
Mr. Averythest apotheosis, paragon of Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,841	Jiro - PM sent, lmk if you think it's still tough out there on SSI __________________ Bewb patrol here. I'd love to see your bewbs, please send them to me in PM here. Sets of bewbs sent to my pm box: 6 w00t! You guys are awesome! Keep sendin' em in! Itchy groin ASL and Deaf happy hour at Avery Brewery info (January 5th 2010)

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11-02-2009, 07:46 PM	#33 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,469	posts from hell, for clarifying the "Jewish" phrasing in one of your posts. I do agree that there is generally large collective assistance in Jewish community, at least as far as I have seen where I am <and am Jewish>, which tends to stem from earlier needs to group together and make own help due to Anti-Semitism. I will say, though that there is also division in Jewish community which "outsiders" might not see; that is, as is anywhere there is racism; there other divisions.

11-02-2009, 07:48 PM	#34 (permalink)
Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 551	pfh I dont believe you. You sound like a troll

11-02-2009, 07:49 PM	#35 (permalink)
dogmom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,469	I imagine that peoples' experiences w/SSI also affected by locality-

11-02-2009, 11:03 PM	#38 (permalink)
Cowpuppy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: On The Road Again Posts: 618	No I think the max is about $860-$890...I quit it two years ago in California...California and Florida have the highest .SSI. The lower is about 640 I think...depending on your situation...if you rent. At 890 it's about same as minimum wage in calif. It's not meant to live well off of...it's called supplemental income. Everytime ssi went up in california the prices for everything went up with it....landlors etc read it and boom. bs. but there are medical and dental and eyewear benefits which add up. just doesn't quite cut the mustard though.

11-03-2009, 11:18 PM	#43 (permalink)
Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 551	Some of the replys to this thread shows the prejudice against disabled people receiving ssi. "Most of them are cheating the system and dont need it" or "theyre getting way over paid and ripping off the system" "disabled people can work no matter what" blah blah blah What about the 10% unemployed in this recession? I supposed theyre all just a bunch of lazy bums that would rather collect unemployment and work.

11-06-2009, 09:59 PM	#60 (permalink)
Grummer Burn fat off your soul Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Island in the South Posts: 3,251	Jiro, you are naive, just because you are spoilt with a more affluent background and education, doesnt mean you actually 'knows' , being in a situation where it is impossible to move, come to think of it, it would cost ALOT just to dump where you are and move out to somewhere safer, but there comes a catch-22 situation as a lack of high-end professional qualifications and experience is going to seriously knock you right back to square one, and all this 'regulations' unique to each places (states, city, town etc) is designed not to 'offer' use of public utility or such but to actually reproduce inequality, thus re-create that poverty-like existence. It will be a waste of time try explaining the rest to someone like you because it will be like talking to someone who has Nooooo freakin Idea about economic Hardship. __________________ Some people will tell you that slow is good - and it may be, on some days - but I am here to tell you that fast is better. I've always believed this, in spite of the trouble it's caused me. Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles. Hunter S Thompson

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