Challenges

jezzie_05 · 02-18-2009, 06:39 PM

Hi, my name is Jessie, and I'm wondering what your biggest challenge in life is while being deaf. Do you worry more about school, your kids, what people think about you....How have you tried to overcome these obstacles you face everyday?

David · 02-18-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Hi, my name is Jessie, and I'm wondering what your biggest challenge in life is while being deaf. Do you worry more about school, your kids, what people think about you....How have you tried to overcome these obstacles you face everyday?

Pardon me, but I don't give a crap what people think of me. I used to worry about my kids being hurt and I'll never hear, but they are gonna get hurt anyway; they do tell me if they are injured. My son broke his arm on Friday night. He ignored it and told me about it around lunch Saturday. I took him to get x-rays on a suspicion and turns out it was broken. It didn't matter if I'm deaf or hearing; it would have broken anyway. The biggest thing I worry about is sleeping, if I'm alone. I will never hear something fall, a break-in, a fire alarm, etc.

jezzie_05 · 02-18-2009, 07:55 PM

I didn't mean to offend you, if that's how it came across. I'm just wondering what your main worries are and if being deaf makes you feel like you lack importance in society because your ways of communicating are different.

Byrdie714 · 02-18-2009, 09:16 PM

Is this for a school assignment?

jezzie_05 · 02-18-2009, 09:58 PM

Actually, yes it is. I'm going to school to be either a captioner or a CART provider, and I need to learn more about this subject, challenges you face. I obviously don't know much, so anything would be helpful.

jillio · 02-18-2009, 10:05 PM

Then I would suggest that you spend some time browsing this forum and putting some effort in learning from the vast amount if information that is already available to you.

David · 02-18-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

I didn't mean to offend you, if that's how it came across. I'm just wondering what your main worries are and if being deaf makes you feel like you lack importance in society because your ways of communicating are different.

No offense was taken.

Bottesini · 02-18-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Actually, yes it is. I'm going to school to be either a captioner or a CART provider, and I need to learn more about this subject, challenges you face. I obviously don't know much, so anything would be helpful.

For a school assignment you are supposed to interview people in your community face to face.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 12:07 PM

I don't know anybody deaf. I was introduced to this web site, and I thought it's the closest I can get to getting questions answered. I see you're not really willing to help answering a few simple questions, so I will browse and come up with my own answers. I just didn't want to get wrong answers and develop my own reactions, rather than if I were to get direct answers, it would be make this more accurate.

Take care.

jillio · 02-19-2009, 12:15 PM

If you don't know anyone deaf, the thing to do is locate the closest organization serving the deaf in your area, and pay them a visit. Introduce yourself. Chat with them.
You can't get the feel for a culture, or for the people, by using the sterility of an internet forum. Face to face interaction is necessary. I would hate to think that your first encounter with a deaf person would be on the day you show up to transcribe for them. That doesn't show much consideration for the people you will be working for.

Frisky Feline · 02-19-2009, 12:17 PM

weird is that i am born deaf. how suppose i know if its big challenge for me to face reality everyday.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 01:36 PM

Before I go and work for somebody, I will for sure go out and be sure to have a conversation with someone who is deaf. I even hope to learn sign language, so I can communicate with them without pen and paper. I'm just trying to get a little bit of information so I can present to my class. I've been reading in my deaf-culture book that mainly it's the parents who face the challenges if they are hearing, of course. Do you find it annoying to be dependent on other people for your education? Do you tell the people who do help you thank you, or do you treat them like it's their job, and they shouldn't be thanked? When did you find out you were deaf, and what was your reaction?

jillio · 02-19-2009, 02:34 PM

Everyone is dependent upon someone else for their education. For example, you are depending on us right now to educate you.

Likewise, it would appear that you are depending on the deaf population for your intended profession. Therefore, your pay check will be your thank you.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 03:43 PM

very well said.

So you haven't had any personal challenges throughout ur life and setbacks because you're deaf? Do you have a job? Have you been asked to present something to a group? Do you worry your children will be hearing?

Bottesini · 02-19-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

very well said.

So you haven't had any personal challenges throughout ur life and setbacks because you're deaf? Do you have a job? Have you been asked to present something to a group? Do you worry your children will be hearing?

Iowa? Me too.....

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:05 PM

Really? I go to school at AIB.. if you've ever heard of there.

Bottesini · 02-19-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Really? I go to school at AIB.. if you've ever heard of there.

Yes, in Des Moines you mean?

Bottesini · 02-19-2009, 04:21 PM

deafactioncenteriowa.com > Home

Here is a link for where you can learn ASL and much more.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:22 PM

Yep.

jillio · 02-19-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

very well said.

So you haven't had any personal challenges throughout ur life and setbacks because you're deaf? Do you have a job? Have you been asked to present something to a group? Do you worry your children will be hearing?

Well, let's see:

I have had, and overcome, numerous personal challenges and setbacks. But I am not deaf. I am the hearing mother of a deaf son, and a counselor and advocate for the deaf.

Yes, I have 2 jobs.

Since I just completed my Ph.D., I would say that I have presented to groups more times than I can count.

No, I don't worry that my children, or at this point, my grandchildren, will be hearing. Nor do I worry that they will be deaf.

I have a question for you. What made you decide on CART transcription as a career?

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:38 PM

Well, don't think that my answer goes for everyone who is in the CART industry, but I knew somebody who was going to be a court reporter, and I heard it was very challenging. I was intrigued and found out that there was captioning as an option at my school. I decided to major in captioning because I liked the thought of working out of my home. Then I found out about two months ago that CART is very interesting also, and that I can actually see who I'm giving the benefit of my work to. I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect. I also know my major is in high demand, and I feel like it's a major that should have more focus on. It was just in interest that got my attention, and I want to help.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:42 PM

Would you mind telling me about those setbacks if they deal with your son being deaf and what your steps were to getting your child on the right track when you found out he was deaf?

jillio · 02-19-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Well, don't think that my answer goes for everyone who is in the CART industry, but I knew somebody who was going to be a court reporter, and I heard it was very challenging. I was intrigued and found out that there was captioning as an option at my school. I decided to major in captioning because I liked the thought of working out of my home. Then I found out about two months ago that CART is very interesting also, and that I can actually see who I'm giving the benefit of my work to. I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect. I also know my major is in high demand, and I feel like it's a major that should have more focus on. It was just in interest that got my attention, and I want to help.

In other words, you main puposes involve the ways in which this would be a benefit to you, not to others.

CART providers rarely have direct contact with the recipients of their services.

jillio · 02-19-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Would you mind telling me about those setbacks if they deal with your son being deaf and what your steps were to getting your child on the right track when you found out he was deaf?

I didn't need to get my son on the right track when I found out he was deaf. He was already on the right track. We simply continued.

The obstacles, (not setbacks, because I nor my son have ever allowed them to deter us), have mostly been related to the ignorance of the hearing people that attempt to serve deaf needs from their own paternalistic hearing perspective.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:54 PM

I'm sorry ma'am, but you're seeming a little stereotypical. When I said "I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect." How would you get that impression? I'm honestly doing it for others. Whether you want to accept that fact or not, there are good CART providers out there. I don't know about your personal experiences with them to be putting me in this position right now, but I'm sorry you have such a negative prospective on my goals for the future.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

deafactioncenteriowa.com > Home

Here is a link for where you can learn ASL and much more.

Thank you for that web site.

What is ASL?

jillio · 02-19-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

Thank you for that web site.

What is ASL?

Oh,my, you do have a lot of learning to do.

jillio · 02-19-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jezzie_05

I'm sorry ma'am, but you're seeming a little stereotypical. When I said "I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect." How would you get that impression? I'm honestly doing it for others. Whether you want to accept that fact or not, there are good CART providers out there. I don't know about your personal experiences with them to be putting me in this position right now, but I'm sorry you have such a negative prospective on my goals for the future.

No, sweetie, I'm far from stereotypical, but you most certainly are.

I don't have a negative perspective of your future goals. I have a negative perspective of the fact that you don't even realize how insensitive some of your questions are. You will definately need to work on that before you attempt to serve the deaf community.

Frisky Feline · 02-19-2009, 05:03 PM

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No, sweetie, I'm far from stereotypical, but you most certainly are.

I don't have a negative perspective of your future goals. I have a negative perspective of the fact that you don't even realize how insensitive some of your questions are. You will definately need to work on that before you attempt to serve the deaf community.

She is SO nice enough to give you some good feedback on how your questions are, and work on your own questions and how to approach to the deafies people.

good luck on your assisgment.

jezzie_05 · 02-19-2009, 05:03 PM

Jillio, I would like for you to quit being so rude to me. People are telling me that I need to learn more, hey that's obvious. I haven't been living in your world for any length of time. Shouldn't you at least be able to accept the fact that I want to learn more about it? How do you learn? Asking questions usually, right? Seriously, get off my back.

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02-18-2009, 07:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	I didn't mean to offend you, if that's how it came across. I'm just wondering what your main worries are and if being deaf makes you feel like you lack importance in society because your ways of communicating are different.

02-18-2009, 09:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,946	Is this for a school assignment?

02-18-2009, 09:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Actually, yes it is. I'm going to school to be either a captioner or a CART provider, and I need to learn more about this subject, challenges you face. I obviously don't know much, so anything would be helpful.

02-18-2009, 10:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32,396	Then I would suggest that you spend some time browsing this forum and putting some effort in learning from the vast amount if information that is already available to you.

02-19-2009, 12:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	I don't know anybody deaf. I was introduced to this web site, and I thought it's the closest I can get to getting questions answered. I see you're not really willing to help answering a few simple questions, so I will browse and come up with my own answers. I just didn't want to get wrong answers and develop my own reactions, rather than if I were to get direct answers, it would be make this more accurate. Take care.

02-19-2009, 12:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32,396	If you don't know anyone deaf, the thing to do is locate the closest organization serving the deaf in your area, and pay them a visit. Introduce yourself. Chat with them. You can't get the feel for a culture, or for the people, by using the sterility of an internet forum. Face to face interaction is necessary. I would hate to think that your first encounter with a deaf person would be on the day you show up to transcribe for them. That doesn't show much consideration for the people you will be working for.

02-19-2009, 12:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Frisky Feline Provoke, Pounce, Purr Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,686	weird is that i am born deaf. how suppose i know if its big challenge for me to face reality everyday.

02-19-2009, 01:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Before I go and work for somebody, I will for sure go out and be sure to have a conversation with someone who is deaf. I even hope to learn sign language, so I can communicate with them without pen and paper. I'm just trying to get a little bit of information so I can present to my class. I've been reading in my deaf-culture book that mainly it's the parents who face the challenges if they are hearing, of course. Do you find it annoying to be dependent on other people for your education? Do you tell the people who do help you thank you, or do you treat them like it's their job, and they shouldn't be thanked? When did you find out you were deaf, and what was your reaction?

02-19-2009, 02:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32,396	Everyone is dependent upon someone else for their education. For example, you are depending on us right now to educate you. Likewise, it would appear that you are depending on the deaf population for your intended profession. Therefore, your pay check will be your thank you.

02-19-2009, 03:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	very well said. So you haven't had any personal challenges throughout ur life and setbacks because you're deaf? Do you have a job? Have you been asked to present something to a group? Do you worry your children will be hearing?

02-19-2009, 04:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Really? I go to school at AIB.. if you've ever heard of there.

02-19-2009, 04:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Yep.

02-19-2009, 04:38 PM	#21 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Well, don't think that my answer goes for everyone who is in the CART industry, but I knew somebody who was going to be a court reporter, and I heard it was very challenging. I was intrigued and found out that there was captioning as an option at my school. I decided to major in captioning because I liked the thought of working out of my home. Then I found out about two months ago that CART is very interesting also, and that I can actually see who I'm giving the benefit of my work to. I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect. I also know my major is in high demand, and I feel like it's a major that should have more focus on. It was just in interest that got my attention, and I want to help.

02-19-2009, 04:42 PM	#22 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Would you mind telling me about those setbacks if they deal with your son being deaf and what your steps were to getting your child on the right track when you found out he was deaf?

02-19-2009, 04:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	I'm sorry ma'am, but you're seeming a little stereotypical. When I said "I really want to provide a service to people and let them have as many opportunities to experience whatever their heart desires. Example: Go to a baseball game. I want to do your captions while you're at that game so they can have the full effect." How would you get that impression? I'm honestly doing it for others. Whether you want to accept that fact or not, there are good CART providers out there. I don't know about your personal experiences with them to be putting me in this position right now, but I'm sorry you have such a negative prospective on my goals for the future.

02-19-2009, 05:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
jezzie_05 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 38	Jillio, I would like for you to quit being so rude to me. People are telling me that I need to learn more, hey that's obvious. I haven't been living in your world for any length of time. Shouldn't you at least be able to accept the fact that I want to learn more about it? How do you learn? Asking questions usually, right? Seriously, get off my back.