So I gotta go to court in 4 hours

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 10:46 AM

I stood up for myself in the probation department, and now I have to go in front of the judge. They told me to bring a lawyer if I wanted, but I'm just going to represent myself. The whole case is about them providing me with an interpreter.

I'm just gonna rattle off section 504 and ada laws and quote parts that apply to my situation. About them being a government office. That I'm legally disabled and entitled to an interpreter and all that good shit.

Any ideas/advice?

jillio · 01-13-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeJ

I stood up for myself in the probation department, and now I have to go in front of the judge. They told me to bring a lawyer if I wanted, but I'm just going to represent myself. The whole case is about them providing me with an interpreter.

I'm just gonna rattle off section 504 and ada laws and quote parts that apply to my situation. About them being a government office. That I'm legally disabled and entitled to an interpreter and all that good shit.

Any ideas/advice?

Looks like your letter got their attention!

Make sure you have documentation. You can get a copy of the applicable sections of the ADA fromtheir homepage, if you haven't already done so. Be prepared to explain how those sections apply to your situation, and to argue any objections or excuses they may raise.

Good luck to you, and let us know how it goes. I'm pulling for you!

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 10:59 AM

Thanks a lot! Actually, though. I still haven't gave them my letter. Had a problem printing it out, so they're all going to get a copy today. I spoke to my probation officer and basically said my piece. She didn't like it and was all "Well, Mr. Johnson I guess you and I can just go to court tomorrow because I don't think ANYTHING that I say to you is making any difference. I don't think that you think what I have to say is important."

I just wanted to say "Maybe that's because I can't hear you," but I held my tongue

jillio · 01-13-2009, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeJ

Thanks a lot! Actually, though. I still haven't gave them my letter. Had a problem printing it out, so they're all going to get a copy today. I spoke to my probation officer and basically said my piece. She didn't like it and was all "Well, Mr. Johnson I guess you and I can just go to court tomorrow because I don't think ANYTHING that I say to you is making any difference. I don't think that you think what I have to say is important."

I just wanted to say "Maybe that's because I can't hear you," but I held my tongue

That would have been a great response! Yes, do indeed take copies of your letter with you. It was very well stated.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but you said this was Putnam Co. Is that TN?

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 11:12 AM

Close. Indiana.

jillio · 01-13-2009, 11:15 AM

O.K. Thanks for answering. The only Putnam Co. I could think of off hand was TN. Glad its not there!

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 11:25 AM

Haha, but Putnam Co. Indiana is probably the most fucking corrupt judicial system i've ever seen. There are pics of the head probation officer drinking with people on probation on NYE. She also transported a minor (under 21) who was on probation, across state lines, and allowed him to consume alcohol in front of her.

And that's just her. The jail? They need their D.O.C license revoked. The courts? A fucking joke.

jillio · 01-13-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeJ

Haha, but Putnam Co. Indiana is probably the most fucking corrupt judicial system i've ever seen. There are pics of the head probation officer drinking with people on probation on NYE. She also transported a minor (under 21) who was on probation, across state lines, and allowed him to consume alcohol in front of her.

And that's just her. The jail? They need their D.O.C license revoked. The courts? A fucking joke.

Sounds like you have a battle on your hands. But, keep in mind, the law is on your side. Take it to the Supreme Courts, if necessary.

Jiro · 01-13-2009, 11:31 AM

good luck, Mike! FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS! may I ask what were you in probation for?

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 11:33 AM

I'm just gonna fight it for the remainder of my probation period which is like 6 months or less. I'm not even sure anymore.

They've been giving me all kinds of bullshit they want me to do, but it wasn't part of my plea bargain. That's honestly the only reason I'm doing this shit. I know the laws on my side, so I figured why not? I just made sure to contact the ACLU for... insurance so that way at least an outside party knows about it, so that way if I get locked up, I also get hooked up if ya know what I mean.

But yeah, they wanna give me a hard time. I'll return the favor.

***VamPyroX*** · 01-13-2009, 07:25 PM

Umm... what led to this situation?

What happened?

MikeJ · 01-13-2009, 07:27 PM

Haha, sorry, I made a new thread 'cuz It's going to go a different direction than this one. So I'm leaving this one to die.

01-13-2009, 10:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	So I gotta go to court in 4 hours I stood up for myself in the probation department, and now I have to go in front of the judge. They told me to bring a lawyer if I wanted, but I'm just going to represent myself. The whole case is about them providing me with an interpreter. I'm just gonna rattle off section 504 and ada laws and quote parts that apply to my situation. About them being a government office. That I'm legally disabled and entitled to an interpreter and all that good shit. Any ideas/advice?

01-13-2009, 07:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
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01-13-2009, 10:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	Thanks a lot! Actually, though. I still haven't gave them my letter. Had a problem printing it out, so they're all going to get a copy today. I spoke to my probation officer and basically said my piece. She didn't like it and was all "Well, Mr. Johnson I guess you and I can just go to court tomorrow because I don't think ANYTHING that I say to you is making any difference. I don't think that you think what I have to say is important." I just wanted to say "Maybe that's because I can't hear you," but I held my tongue

01-13-2009, 11:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	Close. Indiana.

01-13-2009, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
jillio Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 32,396	O.K. Thanks for answering. The only Putnam Co. I could think of off hand was TN. Glad its not there!

01-13-2009, 11:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	Haha, but Putnam Co. Indiana is probably the most fucking corrupt judicial system i've ever seen. There are pics of the head probation officer drinking with people on probation on NYE. She also transported a minor (under 21) who was on probation, across state lines, and allowed him to consume alcohol in front of her. And that's just her. The jail? They need their D.O.C license revoked. The courts? A fucking joke.

01-13-2009, 11:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jiro YOU DOMESTIC DISSENT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Sopranos State Posts: 22,983	good luck, Mike! FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS! may I ask what were you in probation for?

01-13-2009, 11:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	I'm just gonna fight it for the remainder of my probation period which is like 6 months or less. I'm not even sure anymore. They've been giving me all kinds of bullshit they want me to do, but it wasn't part of my plea bargain. That's honestly the only reason I'm doing this shit. I know the laws on my side, so I figured why not? I just made sure to contact the ACLU for... insurance so that way at least an outside party knows about it, so that way if I get locked up, I also get hooked up if ya know what I mean. But yeah, they wanna give me a hard time. I'll return the favor.

01-13-2009, 07:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
MikeJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 23	Haha, sorry, I made a new thread 'cuz It's going to go a different direction than this one. So I'm leaving this one to die.