MikeJ

Thanks a lot for the replies. I'm actually a lot less worried about getting smart with my PO during our last phone call.

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rockin'robin

Please let me get my input on this!

For the past few years, Jax, Fla. had thousands of complaints against the Duval County Police Department regarding treatment of the deafies!...Even one deaf man died in jail!

The TTY phones were "not working"!...Deafies could not use a phone that was on the wall (for hearies)....the guards would not make phone calls for deafies!

You had to wait hours and hours for an intrepretor!...Cold, cold holding cells! Along with drunks, prostitutes, etc.!...No way to call ur family to let them know where you were, to call a bondsman if needed! And the fights that went on...hearies trying to molest deafies! YEAH!...If you fell asleep...you might wind up with somebody or even 2 people on top of you!


Damn! This is 2009!!!!!!....

I along with several other deafies took the complaints to a Legal Aid lawyer here in Jacksonville! She is from Boston, Mass., proficient in sign language! She is a lawyer for the deaf!...And boy, did she ever WAKE THE POLICE DEPT, UP!!

The Justice Department was notified, etc. She got the "wheels to rolling" for better treatment for the deafies!!...

I would have gotten a lawyer if I were you!...No matter the charges! Everybody makes mistakes!! And for those who commented...."ur own fault, you should not drink, etc., etc.".....Get off ur high-horse!!! Shit happens!...Still, we should be treated with dignity! And our rights should be followed "to the letter"!!

Justice for the Deaf!!!...Since this all happened, I did learn that now at the Duval County Jail, they have a Jailor who is deaf!..Her father is a Detective, and I contacted him in the beginning about the treatment the deafies were enduring from Police Officers and the jail.

And if you're required to go to court, ask, and demand for a CDI (Certified Deaf Intretpretor)!!...Don't accept anything less!!! It's ur right!

Thks for listening!!

jasin

If one is below the legal limit they can still drive. Its not wise of course, but there is a legal limit for a reason.

Byrdie714

I wouldn't advise that.

shel90

U are right, not wise...wouldnt even attempt at driving if I only drank 1 beer. I have to pick my mom at the airport tonight at 11 PM and because of that I am refraining from having wine tonight.

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Lighthouse77

I agree with allowing deaf to at least have an access to TTY. It's almost like denying a wheelchair to a disabled person in prison and expect them to walk without it if they want to move around. It's really not fair that prisoners who can hear can use the phone and deaf people can not. People can't help it that they are deaf (or can't walk or blind)

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purplecatty

Try Olathe, KS. Cops in Olathe knew how to handle deaf well because of large population of Deaf. Other cities near Olathe had no issue BUT if you are ouside of Johnson County, KS area, you're out of luck. I know it's not fair and scary if police don't treat you right if you're deaf...

I belived that we could use resources to try to get an attention. It's good idea to check to find out if you have Attorney or someone at Social Service that are familiar how to work with Deaf people. If you happen to be thrown into jail, you can contact them and they'll represent you. Would that work?

My old highschool deaf ex-girlfriend was arrested for DUI (she was just tispy) and rear ended the pickup truck crossing the railroad track. Cop came and found out she had alcohol in her breath. They tried to make her go to side of cruiser and she refused. She told them that she need to get her hearing aid so she can understand what Cops said. But Cops refused and she was big time and had a big fight with cops (she's only 5' 4"). She was handcuffed and threw her inside cruiser. She was soo and she kicked Cruiser window and broke it. Cop charged her for DUI and aggraviated alceration with officers and destruction of police cruiser. She was thrown in jail and she was able to call her boyfriend and he bailed her out.

She got her license suspended for 6 months but she showed up at court 3 months later, cops was no-show and Judge let her go without penalty and got her license back. She was very lucky. Sheesh! just over hearing aid!

I was amazed what she told me what she did and glad that I didn't marry her like that!!

Catty

jasin

I did say its not wise.

jasin

Your liver would metabolize that 1 beer in 2 hours or less most likely.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_d...in_your_system

shel90

Ohhh guess what? I got pulled over by the cops just before pulling in at the terminal because one headlight was broken. All I could think was how glad I didnt drink one beer.

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jasin

TTY is kind of being phased out. Video phones, captel, SMS, etc.. is becoming the standard.

jasin

Why you driving around with broken light?

shel90

I used my hubby's SUV since mine was in the shop. My hubby forgot about his front headlight not working. He got it fixed.

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jasin

Btw, they say cell phone drivers and drowsy drivers are more worse then drunk drivers.

jasin

Good its fixed

Lighthouse77

They made that against the law in my states. The only different is that you can put your cellphone away but you can not put drunkness away so you should not be driving in the first place.

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smithtr

that is difficult to changelle follow rule.. I thought to rule follow.. l surprised.. I wonder you know really law

ASLGAL

Everytime situations come up that involve lack of or no access, especially where PD's are concerned, it embarasses and infuriates me.

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Byrdie714

Good because it should.

ASLGAL

I think I just said that

We, the FD and PD, are still fighting for basic instruction but the City is still balking at funding for the training.
Some may remember that the fire marshal and I have a Certified Interpreter/CODA/College Professor lined up and waiting to implement a program for all officers (FD and PD) and any other department who wishes to send employees for a series of ASL levels.
The City has not budged, and just like the State of Ohio to it's divisions, has made statement that "it's not necessary or needed" - so much for government adhering to and applying the ADA - grumble!

So, I am still called upon all the time and still start out with - "Not interpreter me, I can help until an interpreter arrives. You need interpreter - right!"

We are still bringing it up to every council person we can and still requesting.

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Byrdie714

What is going to happen after you retire? Are you implementing a plan for the PD or what?

jillio

The fact still remains that under the law, any institution that receives any kind of federal funding must be accessable to the disabled. That includes jails. One complaint with the DOJ could result in them loosing whatever funding they receive, leaving them with even less funds to provide accommodation with. Shame that these PDs don't realize that they are, effectively, breaking the law. Refresh me, Byrdie...is it Title 5?

Byrdie714

Sorry--I'm not getting paid for the research.

However I am happy to provide the link of Title V in regards to Code of Federal Regulations.

When one mentions a Title V--one has to be a little more precise.

I am assuming DOJ?

The Code of Federal Regulations

Byrdie714

Also remember that the Title 5 of the Department of Justice is a reference to the grant monies mostly for the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (JJDP) Act of 1974–which was reauthorized in 1992.

jillio

Sorry about that. I expected you to be a mind reader, I guess. I was referring to Title V of the ADA.

Byrdie714

Ahhh--well I'll answer anything for you. Just remember--I'm not a mind reader.

Title V of the ADA deals with primarily miscellaneous provisions that are not explicitly covered under other sections of the ADA.

jillio

Thanks, Birdman! Time for me to refresh myself on the sections not specifically applied to education and work!

ASLGAL

After I retire I will still be pushing for it. It is my home area and I do not imainge I'll retire to Florida or anything so I will still be here.

It is frustrating that the City can blow tons of money on stupid and ineffectual things but cannot/ no will not spare a dime for education of their workforce and better service to the residents, especially those who are D/deaf / DeafBlind.

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jillio

It is good to know that you will continue to push for more diversity training.

pek1

You're kinda new here, but you should know that wiki, if you insist on using it, is NOT reliable. If you're in college or a university, you would be told not to use it for any term papers and you would have your paper handed back to you to redo it. One needs to go to a reliable source and wiki is not one or even a reliable source.

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