sonnier

Hi. I know I have not been here in a long time but I have a problem. I am an Army wife and I am currently in housing. The problem is that my house doesn't have the accommadations that I need (i.e. fire alarms that flashes and door bell adapters). I have filled out and turned in all of the forms (and have the physician sign and stamp them). Well it has been over a month since then, how long is considered too long to wait for an answer? Also, what else can I do to move this along because I have a 1 year old and it scares me that I would know if there is a fire in the back of the house unless I smell smoke because I would not be able to hear the alarm. Sorry for the long post.

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VamPyroX

A long time? This is your first post. Were you here under a different name?

Anyways, your post isn't long. In fact, that's probably a bit longer than our short comments. So, don't worry.

About the accommodations issue, have you tried talking to anyone. Usually, it's good to follow-up on forms that you've submitted if you're expecting a response.

It's like a job application. You apply for a job, then follow-up by calling them a week later.

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sonnier

I actually did. I called them a week after I turned in the paperwork and they told me that it was being reviewed I would be called in a week about it then I was told to contact EFMP. EFMP told me that it was all through housing and when I went back they told me that they would call me once things have been approved and it has been 3weeks now. I know that all of the forms are filled out completely so I just don't know if I should just wait longer or go to another avenue to get this done.

vallee

I went through that, let me see 16 years ago. It was the same then as it is now. It took months to get the equipment and the quality was terrible.

Depending on the base, I would go from person to person until I find the one who can help. That is how I finally got my flashers. good luck.

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Byrdie714

It does depend on which military base you are at.

Maybe you can buy the equipment and bill them???

Reba

Here are some other options:

Base fire captain

Base Ombudsman

Family ombudsman of spopuse's command

Base CO

Your Senator

Liebling:-)))

You need to go Family Housing Office to request their answer on this.

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Pinky

Sonnier, I think you could stay on military base. Or you have to contact with Veteran Affair Loan. My husband is a military. Deaf Mortage know alot more than I do. He will explain to you.

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IslandBreeze07

Why don't you go get the stuff yourself? Like you would with your own house?

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Liebling:-)))

I don´t know either sonnier live at military government housing or private house.

If sonnier say that she live at government housing which mean that she do not need to pay rent and utilities bills except phone and internet. If she need extra then apply for requirement at Housing Office.

If sonnier say that she live at private house (outside of US Army base). She pay part of rent and utitlies uses. For extra, she need to check with Housing Office because they negioate with house owners with agreement contracts.

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LuciaDisturbed

Military housing might not allow her to install such stuff without permission. I don't know, but they probably have rules about this stuff.

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Reba

An enhancement to original equipment that doesn't require a permanent structural or mechanic change shouldn't be a problem. She can install the smoke detector in addition to the original equipment. Then, when she moves away, just disconnect the equipment and take it with her. (In fact, that might be a good idea anyway, so she'll always have it no matter where she lives.)

My only additional suggestion would be for her to keep the original equipment (don't throw it out), so when it's time for the moving pre-inspection she can put it back into place.

I've lived in base housing before, and we made improvements. The only rule was that things had to be changed back before we moved.

If there is a rule about not disconnecting the original smoke detectors, then just install an additional detector, and leave the original ones alone.

IslandBreeze07

Thats what Im thinkiing......get what you need and put where you need. And leave everything as is when you move out.

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sonnier

Thank you for all of your replies. I live on post which means that I cannot do a lot of changes with out changing things back once I move. Where I am you cannot touch the smoke detectors without calling the fire dept or housing. My husband was willing to install them but they told me that I had to go through their "change of commands" to get approval for the installation. It is just fustrating to me. Again thanks to you all for all of your suggestion.

Reba

If your husband can install the new detector without touching the old detectors, that should be OK.

It is the "chain of command", not "change of commands." The "chain of command" means starting your request with the lowest level, and work your way up to the top. A "change of command" means when a new commanding officer takes over for the old one.

I hope that helps you.

Deaf Mortgage

Miltitary housing is free to stay on base.

If off base - VA loans, no PMI, 100% financing (No down payment required), Seller pay 6% closing cost.

Regard of fire system. Inform the chain of command, that its required by ADA to follow the law of safety etc... Call fire department and ask them about ADA and fire system requirements. Then have them contact your chain of command to speed up process.

Must emphasize the importance of ADA to your advantage. ADA law makers designed that policy so we can get what we need for our life depend on little things.

warpedhybrid

Hi,

Oh my, army housing...I suggest u follow up w/ housing on that. Try to speak to the manager and just ask for an update as to what's going on w/ your installations. Not the same thing at all, but when I had to get an alarm + timer replaced on the stove, it was the repairs section that did it and not the housing ppl.

so when calling back perhaps you'd like to start talking w/ the housing manager about this and stress how this endagers u and your loved one. if nothing is resolved (this shouldn't take long if they actually worked on actual work), move up the chain of command to the housing officer/nco in charge.

good luck w/ that from a current army wifey and former soldier myself!
tamarah

Pinky

Yeah! That what my husband explained to me. He is not on active duty yet. He said if he is on active duty and we will move to military base for free and save money. I don't mind to live on military base to protect my future kids. I know VA is very strict the rules. We have to move other states with new jobs for few times until find a settlement to live.

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Liebling:-)))

Yes, it´s an exactly what I am trying to tell sonnier to contact Housing Officer to request the answer first. If installation is not including accord Army regulation then sonnier will get chain of command in writing with reason to request their approval for the cost of installation.

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Yes, living at military base (Government housing) cost you nothing. You don´t have to pay the rent and utilities EXCEPT phone and internet. You can live at private housing where the agreement contract with Housing Officer but you have to pay part of rent and utilities.

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Yes, you're right!

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warpedhybrid

I like being a civilian now. I can always use the "i didn't understand that's how the chain worked excuse." I believe they have an open door policy anyway..."go straight to the top" is what one of my sergeants once told me if going through the chain didn't work in an acceptable amount of time. This is a definite no-go w/ how long this is taking. The garrison csm/commander is NOT the same as your hubby's unit commander. They oversee the particular mil. community y'all belong to. My friend went to the garrison commander since her soon to be ex didn't pay child support among some other things--even the chain he was linked to didn't straighten things out although it was a m.p. unit. Going to the garrison commander fixed things immediately for her. they're apparently not doing their job and someone is always accountable to someone in the military, so going str8 to the top will spare u time. plus u tried to work it through the system w/ their rules anyway to no avail...nothing wrong on your part. if your husband isn't deployed doesn't he have buddies with connections somewhere to get this "knocked out?"

Celticty

I would recommend having your husband go to his First Seargent and work his way up the ranks to get this done. Have him explain all the problems with that and to emphasize that yours and your childs life are in the hands of the device. The hard part is the Army says they are all about the family but that is one of the biggest lies I have ever heard when I was in. I wish you luck.

Deaf Mortgage

Use American Disability Act (ADA) to your advantage.

Recently congress passed ADA to have more teeth. So use ADA as your powerhouse with issues.

People terrify when they hear its a law. If they challenge, ask them to look it up the website: ADA ada.gov Americans with Disabilities Act

Few cases where ADA (American Disability Act) and FHA (Fair Housing Act) are on disability's side
disabled tenants in military housing

More resources:
DisabilityInfo.gov: Disability related information and resources from the Federal Government

Good Link:
http://www.iccsafe.org/safety/access...-yanchulis.pdf

A PDF that discuss about American Disability Act (ADA) and Architectural Barriers Act (ABA). It has mentioned military residential and facilities apply to both law of ADA and ABA.

Use ADA or ABA as your advantage.

sonnier

Hi everyone!!!! I just wanted to update you all to let you know that they finally installed the strobe lights in my house. My daughter got a kick out of it when my dh went to test it. Let me just say thank you for all of your support and suggestions. I really do appreciate it.

Patricia

Deaf Mortgage

Awesome!

Phillips

Cool!!

Sorry.. what is dh?

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Jiro

very good to hear!

Jiro

lol what? military base is always the enemy's target, you know...