Being deaf in discriminating hearing world (long)

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I wanted to share with you my experience being deaf unwelcome in a discriminating hearing world. The people's altitude give us hard time.

For instance, my husband looked for a job as a manager after he was laid off due to downsizing in his workplace. He went to 400 places for interviews. Each place told him they will call him next week and after that - nothing. Every time he went to an interview he knew that every workplace has at least 100 competitors whom all have an obvious advantage over him: They can HEAR as he can't. They can speak in the phone what is critical advantage in a workplace.
When things got desperate I pushed him to become self employed as an handyman.

People are asking me why I am not working. They think getting a job is as easy as a cake. Read at the wanted ads in the newspaper, ask people around for a job opening call a company and they will happily hire you NOW. People don't imagine I have been looking for job for few years and didn't find. People know very well to ask why I don't work but when I want to work in something specific they then tell me why 'this' isn't for me. All of this altitude hurts my feelings so much.

For instance, I offered my service as a babysitter in my house. I have experience. I used to babysit in my home. (my customers relocated far) I knew this community is in a desperate need for babysitters and many of them are overbooked. But somehow it just doesn't work out. I post ads that I can babysit in my home - flexible hours, experience and excellent references. I have my own children who can play with the babysat kids to keep them busy and also plenty of great toys. Nothing, no response. As the neighbor across the street posted a similar ad and she is overbooked and can't babysit for everyone.
Once on community message board I found some woman who is looking for a babysitter with a flexible schedule which sounded just like me. I contacted her through relay service. If I was lucky she picked the phone and told her I am available and will be pleased to babysit her child. Other times I had to find an hearing person to call as people don't know what is 'relay call'. The ad publisher said thanks but she found someone else. In the next week I find out she renews her ad that she looks for a babysitter. Which means she didn't want ME to babysit her baby.

When I told someone about my situation and shared my hurt feelings she said she understands very well the worried parents who are afraid to leave their babies with me as how can I hear if the baby cries? I told her their worries are valid and are making sense but all of these fears are leaving me with no possibility to make a decent living like everyone else. Why can't they give me a chance like everyone else to prove myself? Everyone is admiring my children. They are really very special children. They know it all. At the yeshiva/school my oldest son is talking about interesting things. All of the kids are surrounding him that always has interesting stories and endless information to speak about. Same about my daughter. So nobody thinks about this. Is anything wrong with my children that grew up with 'deaf' parents?

Its very nice to give charity to the poor people and feel you have done a great deed. But one thing nobody thinks about the real charity is to give the disabled people an equal opportunity to use their service or hire them.

People are still wondering why I don't have any job. People are asking me why I am not working. How about stopping asking questions and hire me or speak with their employers if there is any job opening for me or use my services as babysitter (for instance)? Besides that I don't limit myself only in babysitting field. I have good design talent. I can help people organize their homes, control their clutter and decorate their home include painting color ideas . (not anything complicated as a professional interior designing that include breaking walls and extreme makeovers as I am not trained or licensed to do so)

I am not looking for a job I am unable to do. If the job requires a teacher's assistant to sing with a nice voice, I am not interested because I can't sing nicely. If the job requires a secretary to speak on the phone I am not interested because I can't speak on the phone. So why nobody trusts me in what I can do?
The people's altitude to the deaf forces us into a hard struggle to live. How can one survive in a world nobody trusts you and doesn't want to hire you as they don't trust you because you are 'deaf'. Only God's mercy allow my husband to make some living as an handyman.

Not only that. People are also having senseless 'concerns' about us and push themselves into our most intimate issues. 'Good souls' are telling us: "3 children is enough. Its too hard for you. You are deaf you can't deal with more children. Take some birth control. Why not take a sticker? Why not take an IUD? Why not take the pill? Why are you so fussy and refuse to take the pill like everyone else? Having more children is expensive. How can you afford more children?!" Its none of their business!

Out of nowhere they are 'worried' about us leaving our children alone at home. Excuse me. I am at home all day. How can I leave them alone? I don't even have a car. My husband is taking the only car to his work. so they are saying they opened the front door and saw my 18 month old baby hanging around in the living room all alone. So they called out 'hello hello' and based on this evidence they decided I am not home. Maybe I was in the bathroom by then? Maybe I was in the kitchen that is right behind the living room wall curve? Hello, I am deaf. I can't hear when they call out like that to the air 'hello hello' so how on Earth can I know someone was at the door?!! Also how come they think its 'OK' to open my house's door without being invited in and enter?
I left the front door unlocked for a good reason. Someone was bringing my oldest son from school and I didn't want him to be locked outside in case I miss the exact moment he comes home. The time frame he could come could be anytime between 15 minutes to 30 minutes. Its very easy to miss when someone comes if I walked away from the window for a moment. I can't wait by the window all of the time and hold if I need bathroom!! And nobody thinks about this basic issue!

Unlike my lack of control about unexpected people showing up at my door, fortunately I have good control on what goes on IN my house. As about small immobile babies in cribs, I never ever let them to be out of my sight, so I can SEE if they cry. That is how I take care of babies without being depend on defective hearing to determine whether they cry or not.


Its not so hard to be deaf. It IS hard for me with the people's altitude. that's it! So I lifted it from my heart and thank you for reading all the way to here!

Frustrated to tears,
 
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I'm going to suggest that you send this post as a letter to the editor of your local newpaper. Perhaps someone with a heart will see it.
 
It is sound like same thing with my wife too.

My wife got fired from job after I got transfer job site to expanded service for nationwide. Anyway, I feel like I have crushed her future because she worked with children. I am talking about those kids are hearing adore my wife and being attention all the time that how kids do. :)

The job is large chained daycare, she has no problem in previous employee until I got job to transfer. Transfer always means good chance for our life than stay same state. She and her previous boss tries contact the local of outreach manager of state where my location job. They haven’t returned the call until three weeks after we moved. She works again with same daycare of large chain. Suddenly, she felt different about the job where she worked. She had history employee even private babysitter that she has limited understanding lip reading with 14 years experience job. Sudden, she felt crushed her career and mention to me, “Who will hired me each time I had good interview and turn out, ‘got hired someone.’ Felt no encourage or keep looking.” She got fired that she only works for month and half. Happen that child’s finger got bit from other child. She tries to get employee or supervisor attention. She put the child on table where no room to able write to avoid that other child keep bit that child’s finger. The child got hurt by slow cooker with milk. I asked her, why in the world to put slow cook in daycare first place where the child can get hurt. She disagree and did asked why; they put that to make ‘fast’ effective which we both disagree due bacteria from feed breast and misunderstood by wrong milk due stream make child’s name fade. It just one time touch and it hurt by arm where the same finger bit. The child had bad and very bad day due hurt.

She got suspend for few days due review the case. She didn’t get any warning or get chance talk to their parent. The supervisor told her to come in Thursday and have meeting. She did request the interpreter for meeting. When she arrived that day and realized that supervisor gone on vacation and got terminated by different supervisor and reason terminated due careless. She confused and not see any parents’ complaint or charge against her or anything… She felt vanish her future…

I read the ADA that has increase disciple mean of disability. It is interesting to know that out there do reject or try excuse to put terminated due felt that she wouldn’t improve or perform that will hurt more kids. It is her first time that kid got hurt that kind for 14 years and felt crushed. She went to college, workshop and more due her previous job are required.

Again, she still looks for job -- What more, that job did ask her to change position as dish washer. She thinks it not big deal but she didn’t realize it is and that discrimination or how that fit compliant ADA that issue.
 
Have you both thought about setting up home-based businesses? It is a lot of work but doable. Research what you want to do and go after it

Good Luck!
 
Its not a sure thing but I can suggest you a job you can do at home. Proof reading . Your english skill looks good, even if they require some technical vocabulary , you can always improve yourself. Most of the firms hire online and ask you do submit a sample work. So you can get a test assigment from them online, they wouldnt even know you are deaf nor they would care if the paper returns as expected. Or just like IslandBreeze said look for the other home business options. There are options that requires you only use your literatur skill. Please google it as proof reading or visit a website like craigslist.org to see what kind of online (and there is also offline) jobs avaliable.

Good Luck
Hermes
 
Its not a sure thing but I can suggest you a job you can do at home. Proof reading . Your english skill looks good, even if they require some technical vocabulary , you can always improve yourself. Most of the firms hire online and ask you do submit a sample work. So you can get a test assigment from them online, they wouldnt even know you are deaf nor they would care if the paper returns as expected. Or just like IslandBreeze said look for the other home business options. There are options that requires you only use your literatur skill. Please google it as proof reading or visit a website like craigslist.org to see what kind of online (and there is also offline) jobs avaliable.

Good Luck
Hermes
It would help more if you provided an actual link to a job. If you google the subject, you will get a lot of sites who want to be your proofreader, and some who want a fee to set you up. These are likely scams. Please show us a link to a firm that really wants to hire a proofreader online.
 
It would help more if you provided an actual link to a job. If you google the subject, you will get a lot of sites who want to be your proofreader, and some who want a fee to set you up. These are likely scams. Please show us a link to a firm that really wants to hire a proofreader online.

I would be interested in doing something like that as well. Yes, I have a job but I need extra money.


I am sorry that u are going thru this, nurturinghome...I have been thru the same discrimination but in different ways. It really sucks!
 
It would help more if you provided an actual link to a job. If you google the subject, you will get a lot of sites who want to be your proofreader, and some who want a fee to set you up. These are likely scams. Please show us a link to a firm that really wants to hire a proofreader online.

I was looking for a job for my girlfriend a year ago and I found different ones on craigslist actually. But it was a suggestion , I am not the one who is providing the job nor I have a link to a firm I can vouch for that is currently hiring. So I can only make the same search all over again you or she will be doing. Dont you think its better for a person taking her own responsibilty? I am sure we all can avoid websites asking for money for providing a job.

The website you can check is : craigslist classifieds: jobs, housing, personals, for sale, services, community, events, forums
There are many different cities you can browse. Look under Gigs / writing section (bottom-middle right) . Please be aware its a message board, and nobody is checking authenticity of the classifieds. But there are help sections like how to avoid scam & fraud at the top if you would like to read, and you also should never enter any deal which doesnt seem right to you.

I took a look and found one I can show you as an example. I am going to post to link so you can also take a look but please be aware I am only posting it as an example of whats out there.

Experienced Proofreader Needed

Please follow common rules. Do not send out any money, nor give your personal information out before verifiying the authenticity of other party.

I wish you good luck.
Hermes
 
Its not a sure thing but I can suggest you a job you can do at home. Proof reading . Your english skill looks good, even if they require some technical vocabulary , you can always improve yourself. Most of the firms hire online and ask you do submit a sample work. So you can get a test assigment from them online, they wouldnt even know you are deaf nor they would care if the paper returns as expected. Or just like IslandBreeze said look for the other home business options. There are options that requires you only use your literatur skill. Please google it as proof reading or visit a website like craigslist.org to see what kind of online (and there is also offline) jobs avaliable.

Good Luck
Hermes

I concur! I can get you some links that are for news media, but there are others that look for proofreaders. Let me know. I just proofread a magazine on Monday for two hours and was paid $75 -- CASH! Not bad for just sitting around with a pen in my hand and reading a magazine, huh?
 
I have some inputs to share.

Have you thought about getting a license in Child Care and get certified in CPR? Maybe it'll help to have some credibility? Just suggestions.

Also, have you thought about installing flashing devices to let you know someone's knocking at the door? Maybe ask the local Deaf Center for help financially with those or loan the device?

I know the neighbors had no business, but I think it'll be helful to have a device like this.

If anyone tries asking you questions about your life. I agree that they are stupid questions. Tell them that you wouldn't be doing anything that you thought you couldn't do, then tell them to mind their own business.
 
Can work, but discrimination happens

I would LOVE to have good job! I can usually get a job, but I have trouble keeping it. Because of the communication problems. I am NOT lazy, or stupid, or crazy. Yet, I feel that I have often been treated like this. Even when I TELL people that I have a "hearing problem," they pay absolutely NO ATTENTION to it. And then they get mad at me when the problems start. People are just STUPID and CRUEL. I can't even get an audiologist to fit me with hearing aids I guess my hearing problem must be imaginary or not severe enough. Ohio SMELLS for serving HOH people!
 
i think so interest to about to discrimmination to people don't think so look deaf people I doubt I obseved to topic hearing people really **** that is not good point about to look like ignored or snob. I don't like bossy and agrue to deaf people dont want to fight to bugging to people I dont understand what is communication to you. I understand what is happened feeling how can you difficult to communication to social worker government or hearing poeple looking you called dumb of deaf. I called harassment to insult to deaf. I complaint talk to Saskatoon in all the people don;t want to hurt to deaf people but I understand what is point to you must to communication to you. I understand I important to try better communication to deaf people. :I need to pls respect to enivroment to people I want to happy be become positive and stronger culture. I don;t want to getting trouble beause negative very lots of worst drugs and alcohol I dont want getting trouble I numberous because discrimmation to people worst to people crazy. I understand explain to hard time.
 
Hi

Hi I think so consider about to my life. I curious about to interest to you. :wave: I think so you are point to try better against to law. I think should better law stronger to deaf .. :)
 
Yup, it is high time to stop denying 'deaf arent disabled' so screw you to the Deaf who thinks not, you all just bunch of double standard shufflers - disability is real, dsicrimination is real, stop sticking yer heads in the sand!
 
Grummer, the reason I dislike people in general happens to be because people "like you" make the rude comment " screw you deaf people ". I don't think you understand what we go through. What I go through. Ever hear the stereotype that black people are intellectually challenged or that all black people are robbers and gangsters? I know you have. Well, not all of them are. Not all Deaf people or intellectually challenged or consider themselves to be "disabled" either. Do you wear glasses? If so, do you consider yourself to have a handicap, or to be disabled because of it? What if glasses were " The hearing aides, or the ASL" we use? How would you feel if someone refused you service or decided that because you wore glasses you were less of a human being and didn't deserve the time of day...? You would feel very much so like some of us do. But it seems you've already made up your mind as to how you feel about us.

For the record, I am Deaf but I do not consider myself to have a disability. I expect to be treated as a human being who wears hearing aides " glasses for you ". And that is all. I wear hearing aides whoopsie doo. what's the big deal over it? what is the big deal over being deaf to begin with as far as hearing people are concerned like you...I assume you are hearing.

We only ask for a right that all humans are deserving of, to be treated as an equal. I may not be speaking for many here but as far as I am concerned, my personal opinion on this matter-I wish to eradicate the belief that the Deaf are disabled and that maybe one day it will be received with the attitude you have towards someone who wears glasses. Maybe I am asking for too much....but I've wasted my time on you.

Sheri.
 
Jaspheth, Deaf people knows what disabilty means, or so they think they do.
I do understand, and I understand ALOT
it is clear you havent got a faintest idea what disability means, its got NOTHING to do with aides, it has more to do with how society defines you, put you in a box, and decide you are useless for society so you are designated to receive benefit and /or little amount of training just to get by in the shitty labourious work at the low end of the payscale.
blah on the contrary, i think its a hopeless case to try explain any of this to you

You are just not critical enough to know it, as does the 90% of d/Deaf population
"powerful talks" of empathy or gentle whisper doesnt impress me either, it is just another fake 'leadership'talk-down and no I wont buy it.

who's "we" how dare you dare you think are to be 'representative' as you like to think so , but in reality you're nothing but just a 'gentle bully' but end of the day theres no such thing as 'gentle bullying'...
DONT ever use "we' when you are actually refering to your own belief
yes i can see what your argument using the analogy of glasses, its still a long way from there

also 'services' is a paradigm that now requires an overhaul, an entire re-think, its just another employment tactics to keep abled/hearing people out of unemployment since the 1988 Wall Street Crash.....indeed theres a long history, and in this forum it is just not enough room to cover it

all i was saying Deaf says we not disabled but its glaringly clear that it HAPPENS ALOT and how the hell can you say not disabled, then what is it? miscommunication? or whatever lack of cultural awareness is a favourite but wow how does that actually translate well enough to hearing?? - its all Bullshit- come on, you know its not gonna help change it

I thnk it could go on and on, for as long as Deaf decides to reframe it as discrimination as cultural phenomen, geee does this not seem absurd??

Grum
 
Disability

I think so discrimmation to hearing people and deaf people. i think so getting really people. I think so people complaint to discrimmation to gossip and lie. I don;t like that is bad swearing. i don't think so people lawful I think so getting mad at people I understand i think so getting upset. ,I don't know difficult to talk to communication to people> I understand it. I understand. I think so people negative to people. I don't like someone getting bad. I don't want to trouble.
 
Grum,
Since you've explained yourself and it's the way I feel as well....I do get the gist of it. You do not know me, nor do I know you. If you had explained your view insetead of telling us to go screw ourselves I would have not popped in to say anything. Another thing, when I used the term "we" I used it as you would the word family. Deaf people they are all to me my brothers and sisters. I am a part of the Deaf community-if you cannot understand my reasons for speaking the way I did then please do not insult me for doing so.

as for being a bully? Where you get the idea that I'm a bully? that comment in and of itself is hurtful to me. I would never bully anyone for I know what it's like to be bullied. I've been bullied my entire life because of my deafness. To call a deaf person a bully...that's a new low.

However, I am happy you explained your views. I do agree with them. It is after all how I feel. However, there is nothing I can do to change how the government see's me. Or 'us'.

I am done here.

To the girl who org. posted this tread, I hope you find what you've been looking for. Don't let others tear you down and belittle you. :)

Sheri.
 
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