How Deaf Do You Need to be for a Dog?

HearingHubby · 05-19-2008, 10:35 PM

My wife is HoH, and we're all learning ASL so that we'll be ready for when we need it. My question to all you experts is, how bad does hearing need to be to get a service dog? I know that most of the organizations have a waiting list, so we want to get on one ASAP.

How much of a hearing loss does it take to qualify? Does the ADA have a particular limit? Does each state have its own definition, or is it just up to the Deaf person?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HearingHubby

My wife is HoH, and we're all learning ASL so that we'll be ready for when we need it. My question to all you experts is, how bad does hearing need to be to get a service dog? I know that most of the organizations have a waiting list, so we want to get on one ASAP.

How much of a hearing loss does it take to qualify? Does the ADA have a particular limit? Does each state have its own definition, or is it just up to the Deaf person?

Check with a CRC in your state. The organizations vary by state in qualifying criteria. The ADA does not address the issue of service dogs, except in the context of access.

HearingHubby · 05-19-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Check with a CRC in your state. The organizations vary by state in qualifying criteria. The ADA does not address the issue of service dogs, except in the context of access.

What's a CRC?

jillio · 05-19-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HearingHubby

What's a CRC?

Certified Rehabilitation Counselor. It is a national certification that can be added to the LPC or LPCC through testing. They are versed in disabilities, including provision of services and accommodations, as well as mental health counseling as it applies to the specific needs of people with disabilities.

***VamPyroX*** · 05-20-2008, 12:38 AM

I don't think the issue is how deaf you need to be... it's whether you really NEED a service dog.

Do you really need a service dog?

I'm deaf. I have a lot of friends who are deaf. None of us need a service dog.

pek1 · 09-10-2008, 04:01 PM

I would post a reply to HearingHusband, but I noted that he hasn't been here since May of this year and only posted over a two day period. I don't think it's beneficial to even answer him if he's not around and doesn't care.

And I have a hearing dog, glad I do, feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one: They don't know what they're missing!

InsaneMisha · 09-25-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pek1

And I have a hearing dog, glad I do, feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one: They don't know what they're missing!

Excuse me?!? Feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one?!? OH PLEASE!!!!!!!! Get off your high horse. We can make our own choice whether we want it or not. As for me, I'd prefer having a dog as a pet, that's that. Good for you to own your hearing dog. More power to you. But I resent the way you said that you feel sorry for deaf for not owning one.

pek1 · 09-25-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneMisha

Excuse me?!? Feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one?!? OH PLEASE!!!!!!!! Get off your high horse. We can make our own choice whether we want it or not. As for me, I'd prefer having a dog as a pet, that's that. Good for you to own your hearing dog. More power to you. But I resent the way you said that you feel sorry for deaf for not owning one.

That's your prerogative. You don't need to be excused.

imdeafsowhat · 09-29-2008, 11:34 AM

If you have hearing loss, you are edible to have a service dog.

2007 law passed, no need for paperwork to prove your dog is a service dog.

All you need is your audiology to prove that you're deaf and the law will take it from there. Enjoy your future service dog.

PS. Having a service dog saves my butt. Money issue and Fire issue.

**KristinaB** · 09-29-2008, 06:20 PM

I was told I don't qualify for a dog since I live with 4 other people in the house and they could easily help me. That's not entirely true, but that was the decision I was handed. I would like to not be dependant on my family to have to go to store with me or other things. I know my kids would like to not have to be the ones to be my ears all the time. My other problem is, I live in a 16x80 mobile home with 5 people and 2 cats. Don't think there would be enough room. Maybe I will check again later if we move to Kentucky. Hubby may get a job change with transfer. Won't be for 2 years though. I'll be glad to leave Missouri. I really miss Florida, but not enough to go back. Too expensive in WPB.

freckles · 09-30-2008, 07:48 PM

misha, I think pek is referring to one's offensive post here. so, I too, feel sorry for people who think service dogs are useless.

imdeafsowhat · 10-01-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

misha, I think pek is referring to one's offensive post here. so, I too, feel sorry for people who think service dogs are useless.

If one thinks like that, then he/she must have great deal of dealing with life.

Anij · 10-02-2008, 01:47 AM

in Canada I believe it's 55db in the "better" ear to qualify for obtaining a hearing dog via a company/provider. You can of course train your own and have them certified ... in which case the level of hearing loss doesn't matter.

**Liebling:-)))** · 10-02-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pek1

And I have a hearing dog, glad I do, feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one: They don't know what they're missing!

What you beleive service dog help you everything is your prerogative. I respect you for that but where is your respect on us?

What I beleive in is my prerogative:

I don't need a service dog to help me to hear because I have technology to help me to hear...

I don't need a service dog to boost my self-esteem as well because I have a good self-esteem and can do anything.

I don't need a service dog to interpret for me what the people says because I have an interpreter.

I don't need a service dog to help me to watch the traffic, etc because I have eyes and can deal everything myself.

I don't need a service dog to tell me something because my pets can do.

I don't need a service dog to help me to write or phone for me because I have techologny is email, fax, etc.

That's my prerogative.

imdeafsowhat · 10-02-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

What you beleive service dog help you everything is your prerogative. I respect you for that but where is your respect on us?

What I beleive in is my prerogative:

I don't need a service dog to help me to hear because I have technology to help me to hear...

I don't need a service dog to boost my self-esteem as well because I have a good self-esteem and can do anything.

I don't need a service dog to interpret for me what the people says because I have an interpreter.

I don't need a service dog to help me to watch the traffic, etc because I have eyes and can deal everything myself.

I don't need a service dog to tell me something because my pets can do.

I don't need a service dog to help me to write or phone for me because I have techologny is email, fax, etc.

That's my prerogative.

What about dealing with gas leak, police pounding on your door, and protection?

Royale · 10-02-2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

What about dealing with gas leak, police pounding on your door, and protection?

Liebling may have a different answer from mine.

I can tell you this:

You do not to have a hearing dog for it. Some of my Deaf friends depends on their pet dogs to respond those kinds of commotions. I remember a few of my friends said, "Why do I need a hearing dog? I have my pet dog so I can depend on it for their attention to any strange odds."

imdeafsowhat · 10-02-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Liebling may have a different answer from mine.

I can tell you this:

You do not to have a hearing dog for it. Some of my Deaf friends depends on their pet dogs to respond those kinds of commotions. I remember a few of my friends said, "Why do I need a hearing dog? I have my pet dog so I can depend on it for their attention to any strange odds."

If he said that, that clearly shows it is a service dog because the dog is serving its master.

freckles · 10-02-2008, 05:16 PM

everyone needs to remember this, certificated is TO allow transport with its master any way anywhere and, for free of charge.

sure it's either a pet or a service pet - both (attitudes, behaviors, characters and expectations) are the same.

period.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-03-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

What you beleive service dog help you everything is your prerogative. I respect you for that but where is your respect on us?

What I beleive in is my prerogative:

I don't need a service dog to help me to hear because I have technology to help me to hear...

I don't need a service dog to boost my self-esteem as well because I have a good self-esteem and can do anything.

I don't need a service dog to interpret for me what the people says because I have an interpreter.

I don't need a service dog to help me to watch the traffic, etc because I have eyes and can deal everything myself.

I don't need a service dog to tell me something because my pets can do.

I don't need a service dog to help me to write or phone for me because I have techologny is email, fax, etc.

That's my prerogative.

I agree.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-03-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

What about dealing with gas leak, police pounding on your door, and protection?

They do have strobe gas detectors and strobe door bells.

SCBassist · 10-03-2008, 02:42 AM

I have a CI and use a guide (Avatar Pic), all you need is to confirm you are legally disabled.

imdeafsowhat · 10-03-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

They do have strobe gas detectors and strobe door bells.

But do they wake you up when you're heavily sleeping after drinking so much or smoking so much?

freckles · 10-03-2008, 12:52 PM

that's silly question, imdeafsowhat.

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Originally Posted by VamPyrox

They do have strobe gas detectors and strobe door bells.

and for the sounds a few houses away across from ours; the sounds dogs can hear we can't, they don't have strobe for that my dear. not for the sounds from a quite distance. I was able to see the fight four houses away across from us; service dog could help you becoming a witness. yes, a regular pet can do that too but they're more inclined to bark and bark at ... whilst service dog heads the nose, points and guide as they were trained for it.

and what liebling listed, isn't what my service dog was trained for.... it shows me how badly biased people are. no offense leibling. I wish animals could do writings for me!

imdeafsowhat · 10-03-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

that's silly question, imdeafsowhat.

and for the sounds a few houses away across from ours; the sounds dogs can hear we can't, they don't have strobe for that my dear. not for the sounds from a quite distance. I was able to see the fight four houses away across from us; service dog could help you becoming a witness. yes, a regular pet can do that too but they're more inclined to bark and bark at ... whilst service dog heads the nose, points and guide.

and what liebling listed, isn't what my service dog were trained for.... it shows me how badly biased people are.

Perhaps the owner and the dog has the same personality, if they see something that's fun and crazy, they might run and join in like dogs usually do.

freckles · 10-03-2008, 01:04 PM

that's correct .. as well as we remained calm. because of hearing dog policies, they understand the difference between work and playtime.

imdeafsowhat · 10-03-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

that's correct .. as well as we remained calm. because of hearing dog policies, they understand the difference between work and playtime.

I have no rules, it's playtime all the time for me.

freckles · 10-03-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

that's correct .. as well as we remained calm. because of hearing dog policies, they understand the difference between work and playtime.

what I meant by 'hearing dog policies", when the program gave me this service dog, they said the guide dogs should not be petted while working. such as no vest on; no rules, vest on, time for work - to behave in public. and because of that, there's no confusion training for my dog. no rules for us at home either, but he really understood when it comes to distracting sounds.

like you said, it really depends on individually, personalities.

imdeafsowhat · 10-03-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

what I meant by 'hearing dog policies", when the program gave me this service dog, they said the guide dogs should not be petted while working. such as no vest on; no rules, vest on, time for work - to behave in public. and because of that, there's no confusion training for my dog. no rules for us at home either, but he really understood when it comes to distracting sounds.

like you said, it really depends on individually, personalities.

Ditto.

Yes, using equipment such as leash, vest, and sunglasses, actually puts the dog in control, once you take it all off, they actually think it's playtime NOW! But really it's not. Hahaha.

InsaneMisha · 10-05-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

What you beleive service dog help you everything is your prerogative. I respect you for that but where is your respect on us?

What I beleive in is my prerogative:

I don't need a service dog to help me to hear because I have technology to help me to hear...

I don't need a service dog to boost my self-esteem as well because I have a good self-esteem and can do anything.

I don't need a service dog to interpret for me what the people says because I have an interpreter.

I don't need a service dog to help me to watch the traffic, etc because I have eyes and can deal everything myself.

I don't need a service dog to tell me something because my pets can do.

I don't need a service dog to help me to write or phone for me because I have techologny is email, fax, etc.

That's my prerogative.

I agree! I'm with you.

InsaneMisha · 10-05-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

If he said that, that clearly shows it is a service dog because the dog is serving its master.

Sorry I disagree with you on this one because they are NOT working dogs. Most pets do alert the owners regardless whether they are deaf or hearing. Cats would alert their owners. Birds would alert by screeching, etc.

05-19-2008, 10:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
HearingHubby Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 17	How Deaf Do You Need to be for a Dog? My wife is HoH, and we're all learning ASL so that we'll be ready for when we need it. My question to all you experts is, how bad does hearing need to be to get a service dog? I know that most of the organizations have a waiting list, so we want to get on one ASAP. How much of a hearing loss does it take to qualify? Does the ADA have a particular limit? Does each state have its own definition, or is it just up to the Deaf person?

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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 40.18, 58.41 Posts: 34,162	I don't think the issue is how deaf you need to be... it's whether you really NEED a service dog. Do you really need a service dog? I'm deaf. I have a lot of friends who are deaf. None of us need a service dog. __________________ Check out my city... C L I C K H E R E! (If you've already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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pek1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: When I survey the wondrous Cross . . . Posts: 3,996	I would post a reply to HearingHusband, but I noted that he hasn't been here since May of this year and only posted over a two day period. I don't think it's beneficial to even answer him if he's not around and doesn't care. And I have a hearing dog, glad I do, feel sorry for other deafs that don't have one: They don't know what they're missing! __________________ Pete

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KristinaB New SDIT Deacon Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Land of the backstroke Posts: 13,779	I was told I don't qualify for a dog since I live with 4 other people in the house and they could easily help me. That's not entirely true, but that was the decision I was handed. I would like to not be dependant on my family to have to go to store with me or other things. I know my kids would like to not have to be the ones to be my ears all the time. My other problem is, I live in a 16x80 mobile home with 5 people and 2 cats. Don't think there would be enough room. Maybe I will check again later if we move to Kentucky. Hubby may get a job change with transfer. Won't be for 2 years though. I'll be glad to leave Missouri. I really miss Florida, but not enough to go back. Too expensive in WPB. __________________ Taking life one day at a time.

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09-29-2008, 11:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
imdeafsowhat Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: The Golden Coast Posts: 1,983	If you have hearing loss, you are edible to have a service dog. 2007 law passed, no need for paperwork to prove your dog is a service dog. All you need is your audiology to prove that you're deaf and the law will take it from there. Enjoy your future service dog. PS. Having a service dog saves my butt. Money issue and Fire issue.

09-30-2008, 07:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
freckles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in one of many freckes ... Posts: 2,014	misha, I think pek is referring to one's offensive post here. so, I too, feel sorry for people who think service dogs are useless.

10-02-2008, 01:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,087	in Canada I believe it's 55db in the "better" ear to qualify for obtaining a hearing dog via a company/provider. You can of course train your own and have them certified ... in which case the level of hearing loss doesn't matter.

10-02-2008, 05:16 PM	#18 (permalink)
freckles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in one of many freckes ... Posts: 2,014	everyone needs to remember this, certificated is TO allow transport with its master any way anywhere and, for free of charge. sure it's either a pet or a service pet - both (attitudes, behaviors, characters and expectations) are the same. period.

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freckles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: in one of many freckes ... Posts: 2,014	that's correct .. as well as we remained calm. because of hearing dog policies, they understand the difference between work and playtime.

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