How Deaf Do You Need to be for a Dog? - Page 2

Liebling:-))) · 10-06-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneMisha

Sorry I disagree with you on this one because they are NOT working dogs. Most pets do alert the owners regardless whether they are deaf or hearing. Cats would alert their owners. Birds would alert by screeching, etc.

Exactly!!! My 3 cats know my deafness... They use their paw to pat or touch my arm to tell me something what they want... I know their body languages for want to tell me something or ask me to leave them alone...

We know automatic that it's ringing bell before the flashing light comes because their heads turn direct to door. They don't like to be alone and follow everywhere where we go... We are in living-room for relax and watch on TV then they sleep on their favorite one or on our lap until the ringing bell comes... they wake up quickly...

Liebling:-))) · 10-06-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

They do have strobe gas detectors and strobe door bells.

Logical...

Liebling:-))) · 10-06-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

But do they wake you up when you're heavily sleeping after drinking so much or smoking so much?

WHAT!!!

Are you assume that it's understandable for you to drink and use drug heavily because you expect your dog would do what you want?

If your answer is yes, then I feel sorry for your poor dog.

I hope your answer to my question will be NO.

imdeafsowhat · 10-06-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

WHAT!!!

Are you assume that it's understandable for you to drink and use drug heavily because you expect your dog would do what you want?

If your answer is yes, then I feel sorry for your poor dog.

I hope your answer to my question will be NO.

I don't drink.

I umm kinda umm smoke. But the one I have isn't a dog at all. Arrroo.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-06-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

But do they wake you up when you're heavily sleeping after drinking so much or smoking so much?

Then that's your own fault.

There are hearing people who suffer the same thing... too out-of-it to wake up to the sound of alarms.

They do have vibrating alerts as well.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-06-2008, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

that's silly question, imdeafsowhat.

and for the sounds a few houses away across from ours; the sounds dogs can hear we can't, they don't have strobe for that my dear. not for the sounds from a quite distance. I was able to see the fight four houses away across from us; service dog could help you becoming a witness. yes, a regular pet can do that too but they're more inclined to bark and bark at ... whilst service dog heads the nose, points and guide as they were trained for it.

and what liebling listed, isn't what my service dog was trained for.... it shows me how badly biased people are. no offense leibling. I wish animals could do writings for me!

Accommodations should be at a point where it allows one to be at the same level as what is "normal"... a hearing person.

So, having a dog that can hear 5 houses away is like having super hearing... which exceeds the real deaf needs of having a hearing dog. That defeats the purpose of being "equal" to hearing people.

We don't need a hearing dog to watch television, to write, to read a newspaper, to do grocery shopping, to pick up boxes, to open a door, etc.

InsaneMisha · 10-06-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

We don't need a hearing dog to watch television, to write, to read a newspaper, to do grocery shopping, to pick up boxes, to open a door, etc.

If that is the case, I'd sign up to get one ASAP!

Hell, my late black lab knew how to open the fridge to raid the leftovers and whatnot.

imdeafsowhat · 10-07-2008, 01:57 PM

My wolf knows how to talk. But it's the people who doesn't know how to understand my wolf. Typical!

web730 · 10-09-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Exactly!!! My 3 cats know my deafness... They use their paw to pat or touch my arm to tell me something what they want... I know their body languages for want to tell me something or ask me to leave them alone...

We know automatic that it's ringing bell before the flashing light comes because their heads turn direct to door. They don't like to be alone and follow everywhere where we go... We are in living-room for relax and watch on TV then they sleep on their favorite one or on our lap until the ringing bell comes... they wake up quickly...

Yep, mine does the same like yours do! Cool and helpful

pek1 · 10-17-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

. . . We don't need a hearing dog to watch television, to write, to read a newspaper, to do grocery shopping, to pick up boxes, to open a door, etc.

The power goes out in your house, no smoke alarm, vibrator, strobe . . . nothing. Your house catches fire. You have no hearing dog or any other animal or human to wake you to get you out. Then what? Technology will always fail, but my hearing dog won't.

***VamPyroX*** · 10-18-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pek1

The power goes out in your house, no smoke alarm, vibrator, strobe . . . nothing. Your house catches fire. You have no hearing dog or any other animal or human to wake you to get you out. Then what? Technology will always fail, but my hearing dog won't.

Even hearing people can die from smoke inhalation. They die from the smoke before they even wake up.

So, if fire is an excuse for having a hearing dog... then hearing people should be allowed to have a hearing dog too.

Fire isn't sound. Smoke isn't sound. There's no need for a hearing dog for that or that should apply to everyone equally.

imdeafsowhat · 10-20-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Even hearing people can die from smoke inhalation. They die from the smoke before they even wake up.

So, if fire is an excuse for having a hearing dog... then hearing people should be allowed to have a hearing dog too.

Fire isn't sound. Smoke isn't sound. There's no need for a hearing dog for that or that should apply to everyone equally.

You are truly deaf.

You can hear the fire blazing. I know I can hear it ROAR.

I used to live through the wildfires of 2001 or 2002 in Northern California, in fact, I drove through it and I got pour on by the helicopter carrying the water. It was a thrill, but I won't go again.

freckles · 10-21-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Even hearing people can die from smoke inhalation. They die from the smoke before they even wake up.

So, if fire is an excuse for having a hearing dog... then hearing people should be allowed to have a hearing dog too.

Fire isn't sound. Smoke isn't sound. There's no need for a hearing dog for that or that should apply to everyone equally.

mr. knowitall, did you know that there IS another name of guide dogs hearing people would need? hearing dog is for deafies and wasn't only trained for smoke...

your posts are not making sense but you don't like to be wrong. like pek said, you're truly 'deaf'. you say (non-service) pets are the all same, yet say don't need (service) pet - what's difference?? dog is a dog, cat is a cat, rat is a rat and so on.. just some are certificated to be allowed to be transported anywhere it needs to be to be with owner.

imdeafsowhat · 10-21-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

mr. knowitall, did you know that there IS another name of guide dogs hearing people would need? hearing dog is for deafies and wasn't only trained for smoke...

your posts are not making sense but you don't like to be wrong. like pek said, you're truly 'deaf'. you say (non-service) pets are the all same, yet say don't need (service) pet - what's difference?? dog is a dog, cat is a cat, rat is a rat and so on.. just some are certificated to be allowed to be transported anywhere it needs to be to be with owner.

The dogs knows that the smoke doesn't mean a good sign. It distrubs their senses and the smoke hurts the eyes, so it's like those with common sense know it's bad. Those who don't, tends to play with fire.

DURAY · 10-22-2008, 12:04 PM

Are all hearing people deaf-impaired? Do some animals can sign? How hearing do you have to be to get a deaf dog or a deaf cat?

imdeafsowhat · 10-22-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

Are all hearing people deaf-impaired? Do some animals can sign? How hearing do you have to be to get a deaf dog or a deaf cat?

You're horrible at stirring things up. But is Duray your last name because I know a gay guy named Duray.

a deaf dog or cat is more wild and stubborn than a regular pet.

pek1 · 10-22-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

mr. knowitall, did you know that there IS another name of guide dogs hearing people would need? hearing dog is for deafies and wasn't only trained for smoke...

your posts are not making sense but you don't like to be wrong. like pek said, you're truly 'deaf'. you say (non-service) pets are the all same, yet say don't need (service) pet - what's difference?? dog is a dog, cat is a cat, rat is a rat and so on.. just some are certificated to be allowed to be transported anywhere it needs to be to be with owner.

Thanks for having my back, sister! Sometimes, moderators get carried away in their infinite wisdom and forget that their brains are still in park after posting humorous answers to people. Plus, this guy is really barking up the wrong tree . . . the squirrel left the park already, if you catch my drift.

pek1 · 10-22-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

You can hear the fire blazing. I know I can hear it ROAR.

I used to live through the wildfires of 2001 or 2002 in Northern California, in fact, I drove through it and I got pour on by the helicopter carrying the water. It was a thrill, but I won't go again.

You're no fun. Where's your sense of adventure? I am so disappointed . . .

imdeafsowhat · 10-23-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pek1

You're no fun. Where's your sense of adventure? I am so disappointed . . .

I kinda wanna live.

DURAY · 10-25-2008, 10:57 AM

i'm bening sarcastic. I use a fake name. I'm straight and proud of it.

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

You're horrible at stirring things up. But is Duray your last name because I know a gay guy named Duray.

a deaf dog or cat is more wild and stubborn than a regular pet.

imdeafsowhat · 10-27-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DURAY

i'm bening sarcastic. I use a fake name. I'm straight and proud of it.

If you're a fake, then you're not straight and you're sad.

NEWIDME · 10-27-2008, 04:11 PM

DURAY · 10-29-2008, 11:01 PM

Sigh, I'm married to a deaf woman and have kids. Thus I'm more Deaf than you.

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

If you're a fake, then you're not straight and you're sad.

pek1 · 11-12-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

everyone needs to remember this, certificated is TO allow transport with its master any way anywhere and, for free of charge.

sure it's either a pet or a service pet - both (attitudes, behaviors, characters and expectations) are the same.

period.

I missed this one earlier. Um, freckles, where in the ADA does it say that a service dog has to be certified? Groups that train them "certify" them, but it's not required under the ADA. Where state law may mandate it, federal law supercedes it.

ILoveTarget · 01-07-2009, 03:36 AM

i sign up to get service dog!!! there wait list but i'm very excited. i hope to get one in around a year. but i would like to live in my own apartment not boarding house so dog has more room and not stuck in one room when im at work. i hope to have dog soon! i post pictures when i get a dog.

pek1 · 01-08-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTarget

i sign up to get service dog!!! there wait list but i'm very excited. i hope to get one in around a year. but i would like to live in my own apartment not boarding house so dog has more room and not stuck in one room when im at work. i hope to have dog soon! i post pictures when i get a dog.

Way cool, Target!

jasin · 01-09-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by imdeafsowhat

What about dealing with gas leak, police pounding on your door, and protection?

Service dogs are not for protection. If you want protection then get yourself a firearm or some martial arts training.

Jiro · 01-09-2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Service dogs are not for protection. If you want protection then get yourself a firearm or some martial arts training.

or you can get a guard dog....

jasin · 01-09-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

or you can get a guard dog....

True, but guard dogs are not service dogs.

Shadow · 01-09-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

True, but guard dogs are not service dogs.

Big service dog could multi-task.

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