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MaxUFC

I am not VRS use myself nowday...I was told there got more than 70 % users that didnt' use realy service. True? Otherwise, that would be cheaper rate than use TTY-TDD if FCC let Sorenson to charge?.

Tousi

Ummm, I'm not understanding what you mean? VRS is for you to use for free...what's the problem?

katzlavender

what look like a postcard before send it to them? but I don't think they will cut vrs. cuz they know they need to see face to face with vrs on vp instead of tdd cuz people who have problem read understand the sentence. I prefer use face to face with vrs on vp and understand clear instead of tdd eeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkk.

MaxUFC

I knows it is free.

What I mean vrs relay service workers sits there (they might to filing their fingernails or play crossword) and waiting to get a call from VP users. More than 70% didn't call them that cost money to Sorenson that lead the rate plan and/or FCC wants to cut down to spend on Sorenson (Sorenson and FCC are team?). That what I was told.

Huh? No, I don't have any problem because I don't have one....just asking anyone knows what I was told from my friends. True or not?

nozobo

why not y'll try to use relay on Sorenson, I've been waiting for like 5 minutes before they could answer... are they cutting back on their staffs?

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MaxUFC

Oh gee on waited for 5 mintues?. I haven't try vrs relay services and I did to make a call to 711 since then.

Maybe get some magazine (or pager) next to you read to kill your waiting time...that define be better than waiting room into the lobby of hostipal?

For now, I does sitting back and waitng to see everyhting get better of VRS (or other new vrs company) like we seen more better pager from many companies than earlier pager like wynettt or sidekick 1. Something like from TV tube to HDTV. Atari to Xbox360-PS3.

Nesmuth

Come youtube tmw watch me deal with sorenson's video spamming.

Richard

Dark-Half

^_^ Nesmuth is confusing.

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Tousi

I would not say Sorenson is greedy; this is the American way of business. Sorenson is a big company and has capital (money) from their other businesses. So they can well afford to fund this VRS campaign to petition the FCC. This petition helps ALL VRS companies and they all get the same money from the FCC and they are ALL regulated by the FCC. The real question is: How much money (rate plan) do they need to operate and survive? If the rate is cut too much, then some of the VRS companies would fail.....survival of the fittest......it is possible that there are too many VRS companies to serve the deaf population. If Sorenson fails/gets out of the VRS business, it would not hurt them as they are involved in a number of other activities. If any other VRS businesses fail, that's it cuz that's all they do.

Now the only thing left is your choice of VRS. Some deaf people do not choose Sorenson because they feel that Sorenson looks at deafness as a medical model rather than the cultural model (see the complaints/concerns at Gallaudet wherein Sorenson had put up 5 million dollars toward a new building.Some people are concerned that 3/4 of the space in this new building will house speech/hearing/research, etc and 1/4 toward deaf culture/ASL.

So you see, this goes on and on; the issues are not as simple as they seem.

diehardbiker

We all need profits! No profits = no food on table, no roof to live, no nothing. Profit was intended to survive!

You best go to college and study business and you will understand the nature behind the for profit organization. its been like that for years in USA.

PowerON

naw. all Sorenson is already domain the vp business. no need big profit, all they need is.. work hard on advertisement to find more deaf who don't have VP. I know some deaf are interest to get VP and never have one yet...

It's like you seen common business. See at&t (former SBC) DSL have drop from $50 to $30 to $14.95. More customer, more money. FCC should cut it.

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diehardbiker

14.95 a month, that would not make VP work smoothly, it is really cheap shot that way! Sadly, you don't understand how business works, and you may not realize how much $ they spent on budget.

Running Internet business does not require much labor involved while VRS depends mostly on labor, and the cost can be astronished! See, Most of these ISP depends on computers to do all the work, so little labor is needed. Comparing to VRS, still need Relay operators, and they need money to have food on table, pays rents, etc while computer does not need food, or anything but electricity.

and don't be misleading about the Internet connectivity rate, that 14.95 is for "Lite" which only has upload speed of 128KBPS and is NOT enough for VP to run smoothly.

Neo

I used had SBC for few years. It was low tax and $15 for 1.5 Mpbs few years later upgrade to 3 Mpbs for $15... Later AT&T bought SBC and change price $59 for 3MB. *I was testing on internet speed.* That's rip off big time and lot people complain same thing and cancel AT&T and switch to Comcast. $30 for 4 months and only 8 Mpbs. My parents is not happy with AT&T due pricey and high tax.

Brian

Freaky Cat, thanks so much for the links. I am impressed with Amy Cohon-Efron with her researches and stuff like that. I have seen her around (she lives in Atlanta) but I don't believe I have spoken to her before.

PowerON

I'm saying in common sense in business that service. big whoops.

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diehardbiker

Read what Neo just said! They cut down too cheap and more complaints!, It is true and I don't like AT&T because they mislead people too much!

It is not about common sense, it is about reality, if we cut corners in business, the quality is going to decrease big time, and complaints is going to shot up. Cutting corner is not the answer to the problem.

DefMATRIXense

All actresses and actors have a similar contract too for TV shows. Alienware and Dell and other brand name PCs have it too.

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DefMATRIXense

LMAO, Amy said, "I challenged Sorenson" when she didn't realize that FCC is the one threatening Sorenson to cut rates. Sorenson did an excellent job of helping everything for deaf communities. I don't understand why deaf people are blaming on Sorenson not FCC. Of course, cutting rates will affect Sorenson.

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ideafspy

About the "DEAF" become an interpreter, yes it is possible! They have interpreter for fourth parties: voice, hearing interpreter, lower term interpreter, Deaf.

I can't count the interpreter who is Deaf because it just start processing and then the problem I have record doesn't show anything.

How many percent of Deaf can understand each other; I would say 30 percents. Reason; moving due job, start new life, many of one word has different sign. I have seen it and it confused amount of our time to understand what we are talking about. Like from East move to West would possible lot different sign than the Central. You can look Deafnewspaper.com by what is sign for .... It is different but sometime we don't have a common sense in some stage and the other reason Deaf can interpreter due experienced from lifestyle or more than 4 or 5 states.

You never met anyone who is Deaf that work for Sorenson? Did you met a installer and most of those installer who is Deaf. There are numbers that Deaf people who worked for Sorenson. I don't know who but I am sure there are.

Where do you see that Sorenson will take the videophone away from us? I want read that news from link or it is just brunch of gossip?

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ideafspy

I already think twice before I say something about YOU!

First of all; Sorenson didn't take the interpreter away from Deaf Education or school or name one. Interpreter is one who decided to join to Sorenson as VRS Interpreter. The reason; benefit and the better pay to support family. I know some College or the school paid 5 to 9 dollars per hour. Even I know big college or famous college still get lousy interpreter because they want cheap. Blame them for that. Not just SORENSON....

It not only have College or the school has problem getting interpreter and it gone same with Hospital. The service has VRI and that no excuse that College or the school and Hospital couldn't use VRI at the first place.

About Deaf people for work while "YAY" that hearies got more job... Where do you get that idea? I met people who is Deaf that has job that earned salary while other Deaf earned base on hour. It is same as Hearies who don't have job and being a living like this. It is same thing and no different.

You should blame to Oil company that charging gas too much. You should blame to insurance that costs us alot money for health insurance to secure the family. You should blame the living of cost is high. Blaming those whoever that cost high that interpreter head to find better benefit and better pay.

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PowerON

lol. ok, you win.

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