Ariakkas

from what ive heard around the rumor mill lately.....


basically FCC pays VRS providers 17(or so) bucks a minute that a person is using a VRS relay call. they are considering cutting that to 6 dollars a minute. how this translates into the costs of running the buisness, i don't know what VRS profit margins are.

6 dollars a minute for a relay call still sounds pretty nice....but thats not even half what it was. VRS providers wont be able to sustain the high number of interpreters they keep on staff, so your wait till for an interpreter is going to go through the roof.

and btw....having english has a second language is no excuse for poor grammar, your lack of education however is a good excuse.


i read somewhere that interpreters are the lowest paid professional compared to the service they provide...or some such. You can blame interpreters for charging too much money, but if the money is not there, then you wont have interpreters anyway. so you only shoot yourself in the foot blaming terps for anything.

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diehardbiker

That was few years ago, right now it is in 6 dollars range, and they want to cut down more.

FYI, FCC does not pay for equipment, Internet connectivity, office rentals, paperwork, and other employees (Like administrators, etc) that are not directly work as interpreter, They all paid though the minutes that interpreter ACTUALLY on a call, not the time that interpreter sits and waiting for the next call.

6 dollars a minutes sounds alot money, but in reality it is NOT much money after all.

starship winger

one of my friend called vrs. she told me that her friend inform her that friend's vrs system was take away? i said what! i dont believe that ture story. friend from in P.R. and also in NYC. SHE SERIOUS! i felt impossible they take away vrs. i wonder anyone know about it? please reply this message thanks....

Sunshine1

Yes I received postcard too yesterday. I signed and mailed it today! Also I printed from website and mailed it also. Can't hurt.

vrsterp

Also, the FCC does not pay for VPs. The companies that give them to you pay for them then give them to you for free.

Nesmuth

Another snopey rumor is the FCC plans to make TV's contain a "VRS Chip" so all TV's can be used to make VRS calls like they did with the captioning chip.

And just what else is new?

Richard

deafclimber

(never mind)

PowerON

Sorenson should sell VP, just concept as sell TTY or telephone. That way to make money.

Even poor deaf able to get TTY. wow?

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diehardbiker

ARE YOU INSANE???? So that they can spend more money on wars in middle east??? You think it is good idea? WOW, you are really insulting Deaf World, go and sleep with Richard!

PowerON

Wow, do you think US focus on spend in war only? More money spend will support deaf school better than VRS.

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diehardbiker

You get it wrong way! It is like telling person who can't walk do not need a wheelchair, so that they can get better school, urgh?
Without VRS, deaf won't be able to communicate with hearing people, and most hearing people HATE TTY relay service, and believe me, they prefer VRS over TRS.

PowerON

They didn't teach deaf well on english and type skill. Oh poor them. That's why Deaf school need to push that hard with extra money. psst psst.

VRS is still common as TRS as they hang up on me.

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The Highlander

VRS and SIPRelay from same company (Sorenson). What's your point?

I like to use relay on mobile so I can use it at anywhere unlike VRS.

Pacman

Yup, You will get more risk to be lay off or lose your job if VRS is shut down or in financial trouble.

I don't think it would happen if FCC get alot of attention from us.

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diehardbiker

Exactly, The less deafies work, the more government is going to pay for SSI/SSDI. So, whats difference?

Pacman

If government is goes to pay for SSI and SSDI then our SS tax (including with medicare) would risen and probably more subtract from our payroll, that make me so upset. I had noticed that we paid more on SS tax (including with medicare) than federal tax does.

Other countries don't have SS system but different system is not sure.

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dkf747

I don't get it. How is suggesting Sorenson sell their VP's rather than giving them away insulting Deaf World?

diehardbiker

Read again, Poweron THINKS we do not need VRS at all! Wants it divert to school better educate to deaf youngs, that is what I think is really stupid.

The problem I see is that hearing people really surpress ASL, thinks it is ugly language. They don't understand that ASL itself is a language, and historically they REFUSED to acknowledge and accept it as deaf's native language. If we use VRS, and educate what the ASL is all about, then in long run deafies would be able to develop better English once they understand ASL itself. Just like hearing people have to take English courses in their early lifetime in school. That is how hearing people can improve their English and have better ability to learn other language. Sadly, Deaf people lack this education part, thus in long run they struggling with English. TTY will NOT solve the problems, and they cause miserable misunderstanding.

In additionally, like hearing people they were able to chat on telephone close to if they are in person each other, while TTY is so impersonal, you can't really tell who the person in other end, VP takes away that impersonal part of TTY.

If you really want to be true Deaf Activist, quit thinking negative, and look for positive that is helping Deaf.

And here is perfect example, you misunderstand based on this English. This grammer is so clear, yet you got wrong idea, where do you find anyhing mentioning selling VP? If I were told you using ASL on Video or in person. You won't even misunderstand us at all.

PowerON

diehardbiker diehardbiker diehardbiker

I don't think you fully understand what I'm try to tell. Use common sense in business. Business sell telephone and people pay service. So, in deaf world, we pay TTY, we pay telephone svc. That mean, it should be same as we pay VP equipment and we pay ISP. Is that simple? Or you can't afford such as 50 to 100 dollars for equipment?

And I thought it would be good idea than waiting list to get VP200 that many deaf complain and wait to get the fancy one. Sticking with VP100 is stupid and behind technology.

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Nesmuth

To me this means the end of the sweet yellow brick road for the big "S" in Utah that has tried to monopolize the VRS industry and has been playing Title 15 games with the other 5 big VRS providers since then.

Richard

diehardbiker

This issues with FCC is not just about the company that you mentioned. It is about ALL VRS, it apples to every VRS companies, and know who will hurt the most? That is the smaller VRS companies that is going to hurt real bad, are you supporting that idea?

diehardbiker

I understand your concern, this is not about equipment. This is about service that FCC is considering cut down. Cut down the service can impact greatly on VRS *EVEN* if the equipments are sold instead of free give aways. Here is real proof, in Europe they had VRS, and it now gone out of business because neither of government willing to pay for the service, plus deaf people don't want to buy the VP because it is pricey.

Pacman

Are you mocking at poor deaf children from deaf school? That's not funny to do that because numerous of deaf school don't get enough funds from state to improve the education and many of their parent have issue with public school in their hometown or some public school like in San Bernardino is really bad but most school in San Bernardino isn't from inner city, just mostly like suburb.

I quitted from deaf school in 2005 for personal reason then transferred to hearing school with heavily of Mexican students (roughly 70%) and this school is alright, some classes are bad. I had passed state exam (English, Math and Essay) to got HS diploma. It was located in inner suburb in valley area.

In fact, One of my teacher told that my grammar is improved than 4 years ago.

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Nesmuth

Not to mention the success of the VRS industry enjoyed at the expense of the deaf communities. The VRS industry exacerbated interpreter shortages and the deaf communities paid a big price for it through loss of employment, loss of independence, loss of life, loss of safety, and loss of justice. I can go into the details of these losses.

Now it's time the VRS industry pays the real price of their success.

Richard

PePe LePew

Thank you for understanding in what I'm trying to say, bascially it is true many get everything all misunderstanding by talking on the messenger or writing an E-mail and they get everything mixed up, that's why I said VRS face to face is the number #1 is the best way to communicate to understand each other clearly than the E-mail and Messenger...

Also including the chatroom which is the most misunderstanding too, I've seen people foughted like cats and dogs in the chatroom oh boy and that's why I said VRS face to face is the best to solved the problems beside messenger and E-mail...

I've sent an E-mail to this one person I met in the chatroom, she mistooks my E-mail the wrong way, she either may or may not jumped into the wrong conclusion that she thought I was attacking her and saying bad things to her, but I never attack her nor did I says anything bad to her, I was just explaining to her in a very nice way what she did to me wasn't nice for calling me some names in the chatroom and she turned around and lied to my fiance that I attacked her in the E-mail and that I said awful things to her and I had to forward my E-mail to my fiance to read what I wrote her and he saw nothing I did wrong, he find that hard to believe that she lied about me, So I never talk to her again, she just wasn't a very nice person anyway.