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Old 05-04-2007, 09:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have made the thread about ice skating the lady said they didn't accept my younger daughter after I told her she is deaf. I have filed a complain to ADA last week.
And I have just registered another for my older daughter who is hard of hearing but she asked would like to have an interpreter, so I informed them in email. And I got their email...

Dear ***, I got your request for an interpreter for your daughter. I would love to help, however there is one difficulty: I have to pay interpreters several hundred dollars a session, and for this class I don't think I'll have enough sign up to warrant that. I am running on a strict revenue budget, meaning I do not have a cent in hard funding for this program. I am still relatively new to the *** system, and I have not worked extensively with deaf and hard of hearing people in Alaska -(although I'm one myself) perhaps you know more than me on how we can get interpreters for children who are hard of hearing - outside the expensive *** system? - I'm thinking volunteers. I'd be happy to keep working on this with you. *******

Unfortunately, I dont have any family, nor relatives, nor friends who would be volunteer to interpreter for my daughter, I guess I would ask her for refund but my daughter would be disappointed, my younger daughter already is, now older one will be.

I will need a civil right lawyer, right now I am seeking on internet to see anyone of them well knows civil/ADA law. ANY INFORMATION AND SUGGESTION WOULD BE APPRECIATED,THANKS.



P.S. I understood, deaf got frustrated staff didn't want to provide the interpreters, also they, staff, might be frustrated with the interpreters cost. I just contacted the interpreter refferal here, they said 0.50 for a min. I figured that class is 1 and 1/2 hrs-twice a week-3 hrs, for 3 weeks-9hrs+1and half hrs in the beginning to worship. It would be 300!
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If my guess is right, this is a VERY small private business. One individual teacher giving private skating lessons to a few students. If this is true, then I do not believe the ADA law will help or protect you as it would shut down that business. I don't have time to look up the relevant law and my comment above is just my common sense.....what a reasonable person would think and I am guessing the law is reasonable here, too.

I hope you can find a way to get assistance for your girl(s) if you cannot afford the interpreter yourself.
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Old 05-05-2007, 09:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If my guess is right, this is a VERY small private business. One individual teacher giving private skating lessons to a few students. If this is true, then I do not believe the ADA law will help or protect you as it would shut down that business. I don't have time to look up the relevant law and my comment above is just my common sense.....what a reasonable person would think and I am guessing the law is reasonable here, too.

I hope you can find a way to get assistance for your girl(s) if you cannot afford the interpreter yourself.
There should be some kind of govt funding to give money to those small private businesses so they can hire terps. Her daughters have just as much right to be involved with the clubs.
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If my guess is right, this is a VERY small private business. One individual teacher giving private skating lessons to a few students. If this is true, then I do not believe the ADA law will help or protect you as it would shut down that business. I don't have time to look up the relevant law and my comment above is just my common sense.....what a reasonable person would think and I am guessing the law is reasonable here, too.

I hope you can find a way to get assistance for your girl(s) if you cannot afford the interpreter yourself.

It's school district, as educational program, I found it in summer camps 2007 textbook. I believe they shall not refuse to pay reasonable accom..(sp?) to deaf children. I was looking for discrimination law, found one

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No person in the United States shall, on the grounds of race, color, national origin, age or disability be subjected to unlawful discrimination under any program or activity conducted by or which receives Federal financial assistance from the Department of the Interior. Discrimination includes: denial of services, aids, or benefits; provision of different service or in a different manner; and segregation or separate treatment. In addition, sex discrimination is prohibited in Federally assisted educational programs. Department of the Interior Office for Equal Opportunity
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It's school district, as educational program, I found it in summer camps 2007 textbook. I believe they shall not refuse to pay reasonable accom..(sp?) to deaf children. I was looking for discrimination law, found one

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No person in the United States shall, on the grounds of race, color, national origin, age or disability be subjected to unlawful discrimination under any program or activity conducted by or which receives Federal financial assistance from the Department of the Interior. Discrimination includes: denial of services, aids, or benefits; provision of different service or in a different manner; and segregation or separate treatment. In addition, sex discrimination is prohibited in Federally assisted educational programs. Department of the Interior Office for Equal Opportunity

It is a school district??? These people are nuts to deny an terp to your daughter!!! Go kick their asses!
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Old 05-05-2007, 11:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
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There should be some kind of govt funding to give money to those small private businesses so they can hire terps. Her daughters have just as much right to be involved with the clubs.
Right, and under school district is not private business, is it?
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Old 05-05-2007, 12:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If my guess is right, this is a VERY small private business. One individual teacher giving private skating lessons to a few students. If this is true, then I do not believe the ADA law will help or protect you as it would shut down that business. I don't have time to look up the relevant law and my comment above is just my common sense.....what a reasonable person would think and I am guessing the law is reasonable here, too.

I hope you can find a way to get assistance for your girl(s) if you cannot afford the interpreter yourself.
and it's not ice skating, it is ballet dance theatre but both were from summer camps 2007 textbook too. There's many different programs, Should I look for another again, I don't think so once my daughter likes one they shall not avoid/refuse to provide deaf children needs
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Oh boy! That's hard. I am afraid that you are jumping too fast. You might be right. This email sounds a sort of nice, but it could be pretty tricky. Last year, I recalled an article that if there is about 10 deaf students in a class, a supervisor or boss is required to have an interpreter by the law.

I am thinking that you should ask someone who is an interpreter here on AD for his/her some suggestions.

Can you try to ask an agent first at the capital (Government building) - State Commission on the Deaf and Hearing Impaired (CDHI)? This should be helpful for you to get the information from the department. This is significant to you. Please look it up on your state's website...
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Old 05-06-2007, 02:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Oh, it's a school district, okay, that's a horse of a whole 'nuther color! It is not a small private business. Sic, 'em, Freewoman! I hope it the situation turns out well for you.
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You mean the school passed you those summer camp package? This is no part of the school, Expense comes out or your pocket, Do you pay for her ice skating?
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Old 05-06-2007, 01:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh I know what you're talking about here, my children had those camping programs booklets that were send home from their schools...Really, most schools send home flyer's/booklets of camping, YMCA, and other programs for children or their parents who wish to participate, and face many challenges but that doesn't mean the schools are responsible to make sure these programs do provide service for the children with needs but however some of these programs are budget cut or non-profit from federal funds...These sort of summer or after school programs provide the opportunities to participate in physically activities, learning experiences, training skills, educational, developing friendship, sense of belonging and etc, these types of programs impact on a child's developments and quality of life... I enrolled my two sons in YMCA programs a couple of years ago by given them an opportunity to enjoy the activities and made new friends too and they love it, that why schools are sending home flyer's/booklets to give children an opportunity to join and have fun etc...


Why not look around and find out if there are any other programs for children with disabilities so that your girls can participate with children like themselves?...If I was hearing, I would be more than glad to volunteer by interpretering for your daughter....
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You mean the school passed you those summer camp package? This is no part of the school, Expense comes out or your pocket, Do you pay for her ice skating?
Forget ice skating, it's in other thread I have filed complain to ADA, cuz my girls have never been accepted in, ofc, I would pay for the ice skating lesson for both my daughters. Now they said it's completely full, they're obviously avoiding before session begins.

So I took my daughter to go different session, theatre, now they don't like to pay for interpreter for my daughter. Ugh, seems all summer camps are for hearing peers, not right n unfair!
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Oh I know what you're talking about here, my children had those camping programs booklets that were send home from their schools...Really, most schools send home flyer's/booklets of camping, YMCA, and other programs for children or their parents who wish to participate, and face many challenges but that doesn't mean the schools are responsible to make sure these programs do provide service for the children with needs but however some of these programs are budget cut or non-profit from federal funds...These sort of summer or after school programs provide the opportunities to participate in physically activities, learning experiences, training skills, educational, developing friendship, sense of belonging and etc, these types of programs impact on a child's developments and quality of life... I enrolled my two sons in YMCA programs a couple of years ago by given them an opportunity to enjoy the activities and made new friends too and they love it, that why schools are sending home flyer's/booklets to give children an opportunity to join and have fun etc...


Why not look around and find out if there are any other programs for children with disabilities so that your girls can participate with children like themselves?...If I was hearing, I would be more than glad to volunteer by interpretering for your daughter....
you may read the link (I can read English )

Enjoy the final weekend in a summer full of affordable family entertainment, presented by UAA Theatre for Young People's Performing Arts Academy in partnership with the Anchorage School District.
Alaska Theatre for Young People presents final weekend of summer performances do you see there says with school district? and where my daughter would be going to ballet dance UAA - Department of Theatre & Dance does it look like private business to you? Let me know.

Well, I just read most threads under ADA I got some links I will read NAD.

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Okay, let me know what ADA say about this, I'm interesting in learning more about this and what they can do to help with your situation here...

I'm not saying what they're doing is right, but I'm not so positive sure how this issue will be carry out....
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I doubt it that it will be successful because a few percents of ADA was able to force the companies to follow the regulation. This is related for business.

You should stop at the CDHI department at the capital to discuss with your problem instead of ADA (not yet). It usually works pretty well. You already reported the ADA, and it will take a very long time for you to find out - perhaps many months. I would be surprised that they response you quickly. I don't want to fart around saying to you to do this and that. I just know about it. A few years ago, I met a deaf woman that works for a capital in my state, and she knows about the ADA. She is very smart. Not many people hire deaf people working inside the capital.
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So I took my daughter to go different session, theatre, now they don't like to pay for interpreter for my daughter. Ugh, seems all summer camps are for hearing peers, not right n unfair!
Yes, It doesn't seem fair to me either, I'll love to help but I don't know where to begin, those program package for summer fun they don't get refund aides, so it makes it difficult for them to pay for extra costs like interpreters. You could bring that up at the Board of Education at your daughters school maybe they will in some-way help you with that issue. It's worth a try.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:55 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It is a school district??? These people are nuts to deny an terp to your daughter!!! Go kick their asses!
Yes! If these are extracurricular activites offered through a schools system, they are held to the same letter of the law as a classroom situation. Liek she said--Go kick their asses!!!!
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