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Old 05-29-2006, 09:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I dont feel sorry for myself because i am freaking deaf..

GET A LIFE! Blame blame is not doing any good until you change your attitude and do something about ADA law that doesnt apply to many deafies in this society .. MIND YOU!
Are you talking to yourself? You are the one who is blaming everything.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:58 PM   #32 (permalink)
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NOPE I m talking about blaming deaf people 100 percent s fault. Everything is Deaf faults all the time .. OOOOO ALL HEARING people is so perfect and have a wonderful attitude which is full of it.

You lied to yourself and others that I do not appreciate it at all.

DEaf is bad bad bad bad bad no good no good no good ;lazy lazy lazy dumb dumb dumb cant cant thats what people are doing it to us in this society Sheesh!
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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VRS and any other relay services aren't going anywhere. If anything, they're cutting the wasteful spending. These companies are profitting far too much from the FCC, and something needs to be done. And for those who are absolutely screaming that your rights are being violated. That's horse shit. There is nothing in the ADA about a minimum that the FCC has to reiumburse relay providers. The FCC has always tooken good care of the deaf community and listened to what they have to say. Relay rates have been cut several times since last year, and of course Sorenson is going to bitch. They're a giant corporation. It's their purpose to make as much money as possible. Your VRS service is not going anywhere.
That's right.. VRS aren't going away.. just that all VRS's OUTREACH funding are in jeopardy of being eliminated. we have to look at sweetmind's first post to see the part where it says "WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?" read that to understand what's going to happen if passed. It does not say that VRS is going to be gone.. we should stop panicking like we did with NAD's fear about Closed Captioning conspiracy theory. Just calm down and read carefully and use logic thinking.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:00 PM   #34 (permalink)
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NOPE I m talking about blaming deaf people 100 percent s fault. Everything is Deaf faults all the time .. OOOOO ALL HEARING people is so perfect and have a wonderful attitude which is full of it.

You lied to yourself and others that I do not appreciate it at all.

DEaf is bad bad bad bad bad ;lazy lazy lazy dumb dumb dumb Sheesh!
Huh? I have never said Deaf is bad. We all never said that - we only want every deaf child to have ALL tools. It doenst mean we think being deaf is bad.

Heck Im proud of being deaf myself and I m proud that I have a very good job. It is because I worked my butt off, not play around and rely on SSI or SSDI. I did not have ADA to help me - I showed them by my work experiences and skills period.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:00 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Now, I think FCC is violated our Ada laws that is our Deaf rights.

So do you ever think that is actually that we have the right to have a real independent that Deaf people can do anything except hear?

How come didnt Government says they want Deaf people to be independent??

How can you be independent if they are taking away the access away from you to allow that freedom to be independent without their support?

That would turn out a very positive outlook for Deaf children 's future. They have violated our rights and is taking what is rightful yours to live in this world independence citizens.

Think twice before turn out into a nasty ugly comments toward Deaf community or Deaf people 's abilities that they asked for more conflict interest between audism people and Deaf people 's rights.

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Old 05-29-2006, 10:02 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think Sweetmind did not read it clearly.

It merely said that it could eliminate OUTREACH - I think all of us know about VRS by now. I am constantly bombarded by Sprint, HOVRS and Sorensen about availability of VRS. I havent yet met a deaf person who never heard of VRS.
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You are full of it and read the first comment I have said it to think twice before you turn out negative comments about deaf people but you violated already to bring up the negative issue about deaf people s ssi and ssdi.. JEEZ! NONE OF YOUR CONCERNS if you mind..

I am not going to support sorenson because of this person who have a very negative attitude about deaf s govt check that she doesnt know NOTHING about more than just being deaf if you mind.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
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And I'm not the one who needs to get off my ass and do something. If you want things to change, then get off your ass and do it. I'm not going to fight for you. I already get off my ass and go to work so you don't have to.

I'm fed up with YOUR negative "poor me, i'm deaf" attitude all while saying "deaf can do anything" PICK ONE.

*sighs* when are YOU people going to learn to shut your traps and your rants about deaf and SSI or SSDI?

I am so sick of this, and it is a big turn off to hear it all the time. IF YOU DONT WANT people of ANY type collecting SSI checks then I suggest you get off your ass and find a way for someone who is blind to work. AND I MEAN ANY JOB, NOT just your usual low paid minimum wage jobs that will give them the time of day. I SUGGEST YOU FIND AND FORCE PEOPLE to hire those that cant walk, has no arms and no legs, has health problems up the KAZOO! And I also suggest you FIND a job willing to let me WORK from home with NO MONEY UP FRONT and not a scam!! With NO SKILLS FOR a computer job at all!! AND still have time to take care of sick parents!!!!

YOU ARE A VRSTERP!!! Not a good example to be setting for us!!! WHAT NO UNDERSTANDING? NO COMPASSION??? ARE YOU YOURSELF DEAF????? If NOTA then shut up!!! Geez, do you have any idea what we face when looking for a damn job? There are FEW and I mean FEW employers willing to hire deaf people!! WORSE live in a small town area where there are no deaf like me!!!!

I lived on SSI for years and let me tell you I BARELY lived on it at all!! The only reason WHY i now even own my own home is because MY OWN Relatives helped me!!! Think the government did? HELL NO!! They keep you living just barely above poverty level!!! And sometimes not even above poverty level!

You wanna just HOLLER and LABEL us as deaf being LAZY and hollering discrimination for an EXCUSE not true!! My mother died in March after many years of taking care of her and not working! YES ON SSI and taking care of a very very ill mother! Got a problem with that??? Been looking for a job since a week after MY MOTHER DIED!! No time to grieve or mourn NOTHING!!

Simply cause I said now mom is gone, it is time for me to find a job and get a better life now!!! But STILL LOOKING!!! Why? NO ONE is willing to give the deaf a chance!! Simple as that! LIKE It or not!!

I had just as good if not better qualifications than the other applicants they got the job! I didnt gee wonder why? COULD IT BE BECAUSE THEY WERE HEARING AND I WASNT??

If this is an example of Sorenson Interpreters and how they think of the deaf world then I want nothing to do with it. I will be seriously considering sending my VP back. I am going to be seriously considering if this is a company I would want to support.

Sorry big turn off. And it is a huge turn-off to see that people just shoot off with the mouth about SSI without considering what they are saying. DEAF or NOT some people do need it and wouldnt be able to live without it.

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Old 05-29-2006, 10:39 PM   #39 (permalink)
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*sighs* when are YOU people going to learn to shut your traps and your rants about deaf and SSI or SSDI?

I am so sick of this, and it is a big turn off to hear it all the time. IF YOU DONT WANT people of ANY type collecting SSI checks then I suggest you get off your ass and find a way for someone who is blind to work. AND I MEAN ANY JOB, NOT just your usual low paid minimum wage jobs that will give them the time of day. I SUGGEST YOU FIND AND FORCE PEOPLE to hire those that cant walk, has no arms and no legs, has health problems up the KAZOO! And I also suggest you FIND a job willing to let me WORK from home with NO MONEY UP FRONT and not a scam!! With NO SKILLS FOR a computer job at all!! AND still have time to take care of sick parents!!!!

YOU ARE A VRSTERP!!! Not a good example to be setting for us!!! WHAT NO UNDERSTANDING? NO COMPASSION??? ARE YOU YOURSELF DEAF????? If NOTA then shut up!!! Geez, do you have any idea what we face when looking for a damn job? There are FEW and I mean FEW employers willing to hire deaf people!! WORSE live in a small town area where there are no deaf like me!!!!

I lived on SSI for years and let me tell you I BARELY lived on it at all!! The only reason WHY i now even own my own home is because MY OWN Relatives helped me!!! Think the government did? HELL NO!! They keep you living just barely above poverty level!!! And sometimes not even above poverty level!

You wanna just HOLLER and LABEL us as deaf being LAZY and hollering discrimination for an EXCUSE not true!! My mother died in March after many years of taking care of her and not working! YES ON SSI and taking care of a very very ill mother! Got a problem with that??? Been looking for a job since a week after MY MOTHER DIED!! No time to grieve or mourn NOTHING!!

Simply cause I said now mom is gone, it is time for me to find a job and get a better life now!!! But STILL LOOKING!!! Why? NO ONE is willing to give the deaf a chance!! Simple as that! LIKE It or not!!

I had just as good if not better qualifications than the other applicants they got the job! I didnt gee wonder why? COULD IT BE BECAUSE THEY WERE HEARING AND I WASNT??

If this is an example of Sorenson Interpreters and how they think of the deaf world then I want nothing to do with it. I will be seriously considering sending my VP back. I am going to be seriously considering if this is a company I would want to support.

Sorry big turn off. And it is a huge turn-off to see that people just shoot off with the mouth about SSI without considering what they are saying. DEAF or NOT some people do need it and wouldnt be able to live without it.

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Did you miss the entire point? My point is how people are complaining about how greedy the gov't is. I simply said this is the same gov't who is giving FULLY-ABLE TO WORK people checks every month.

If you are not fully able to work, then this is not about you.

There are people who need help. I am all for helping them. Then there are people who get it for NO OTHER REASON than being deaf, all while saying "Nobody helps deaf people" "Deaf can do anything." Do you not see a problem there?

Again, I am ALL for helping people who need help, or people who really can't work. I'm not talking about them. And this is not about just deaf people who choose not to work. I disagree with giving anyone who is able to work a free ride. I digress. That is not the point here.

By the way, when a hearing person's mother is ill or dying, the hearing person has to still work through it or else be broke. They don't get to fall back on SSI. Just a note. and I'm sorry for your loss.

And another By the way..my ENTIRE family is deaf or codas. My opinions are my own. And most of my family has worked to get where they are today. And it pisses me off to hear someone talk about how they're held down because they're deaf. Its insulting to the deaf people who have busted their asses to get where they are. And it's an insult to my family.

ETA: EVERYONE starts out at crappy, low-wage jobs. You can't expect to go into the work force at $30 an hour. EVERYONE (hearing, deaf, blind, in a wheelchair, walking, whatever) starts out at the $5-whatever an hour. If you start out at more than that, you're lucky. You do what you can and keep trying to move up.
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Old 05-29-2006, 11:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Did you miss the entire point? My point is how people are complaining about how greedy the gov't is. I simply said this is the same gov't who is giving FULLY-ABLE TO WORK people checks every month.

If you are not fully able to work, then this is not about you.

There are people who need help. I am all for helping them. Then there are people who get it for NO OTHER REASON than being deaf, all while saying "Nobody helps deaf people" "Deaf can do anything." Do you not see a problem there?

Again, I am ALL for helping people who need help, or people who really can't work. I'm not talking about them. And this is not about just deaf people who choose not to work. I disagree with giving anyone who is able to work a free ride. I digress. That is not the point here.

By the way, when a hearing person's mother is ill or dying, the hearing person has to still work through it or else be broke. They don't get to fall back on SSI. Just a note. and I'm sorry for your loss.

And another By the way..my ENTIRE family is deaf or codas. My opinions are my own. And most of my family has worked to get where they are today. And it pisses me off to hear someone talk about how they're held down because they're deaf. Its insulting to the deaf people who have busted their asses to get where they are. And it's an insult to my family.

ETA: EVERYONE starts out at crappy, low-wage jobs. You can't expect to go into the work force at $30 an hour. EVERYONE (hearing, deaf, blind, in a wheelchair, walking, whatever) starts out at the $5-whatever an hour. If you start out at more than that, you're lucky. You do what you can and keep trying to move up.
Ok that is cool with me those are your opinions. Now, let me ask you this. Yo8u say hearing owrk and have to work while taking care of ill parents. NOT ALWAYS TRUE they can take PAID leaves of absences. There are a variety of those they can get extended time off for.

Also, you say they dont have SSI to fall back on. Ok, ill buy that but if you-yourself was deaf with an impeccable resume and excellent job skills for the position y ou are applying for and repeatedly get overlooked for that position. Are you telling me you then would not use SSI to support yourself? Hell, my mother who WAS hearing was out of work for a FULL year looking for a job that FIT her skills. She applied for many of jobs that didnt AND was told your too overqualified!! LOl works both ways!
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First of all I dont owe you any explaination why am I disabilty? I used to work two full time jobs and part time jobs altogether if you mind. I only slept three or four hours each day from Sunday thru Thurs then work on the weekend. I dont play around as you think or date with somebody to have fun yet. So there!

No need upbringing about SSI or SSDI that you dont realized there are many Deaf multiply disabilities inlcuding low functional, Mental Challengers, Mental Illness, and many others.. SO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!

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wait a minute isnt it some of those SAME lazy deaf people that are able to work and dont also keep you in YOUR job as a VRS terp?
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well, tomorrow after get out from school then we will talk to some of deaf friends from CSUN or somewhere in LA about this shit, that getting more and more shit... government needs quit to talk about against on deaf people, enough and enough with bullshit.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:41 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Funny, this thread about Sorenson VRS needs our help voting to FCC, now its off topic, vrsterp points out Government gives check to deaf... then why u, vrsterp, are working as VRS interpreter or for VRS, disrespectful deaf who is getting on SSI and SSDI but needs their support voting FCC :shakehead:
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HEY YOU vrsterp,

If it wasn't for us deafies in this society then the interpreters would not get the crunchy interpreter jobs. Enough of your egoism to turn against Deaf people. You are lucking to sit around and have fun to communicate with all kind of people thru Video Relay Service to make money. I would love to get that job that will fit me right after all I got my disability. I cannot lift anything that is over ten lbs. Thanks!

And interpreter are passing judgement without knowing the truth what if that same able-bodied person looks normal but has a underlying illness that know nothing about? That is a book by its cover.

Also some interpreters got a free ride to Deaf cruises so who is paying for it?? HUH! Back off for once! Thanks!

It s the Hearing Business World oppress us as much as I can see too much in this society.

So watch what you are saying to us Deafies. Thank you!

As far as I did warned you from the start.. Dont mess with me or any deafies. Thank you!

I have enough to say it aloud. I dont care if you dont like me because it s the truth.

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Once again...ignored the entire point.

Um and no it's not the "lazy deaf people" who are helping me keep my job (mind you, i never said lazy)


I know why I'm not a doctor. I know why I dropped out of college. Because *I* wasn't motivated enough to become a doctor. Because *I* wasn't motivated enough to stay in college. I take responsibility for my own actions.

I will AGAIN say THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM. I AM TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO CAN but WON'T WORK. If that's not you, then quit getting so defensive. If you actually KNOW you need help, you wouldn't be getting defensive.

I'm simply saying (since someone ELSE took the thread offtopic) that when you say "i'm deaf...i can't..." You are insulting my father who has almost 30 years in with the city, my grandma who is retired from the post office, my aunt who still works at the post office, my grandfather who worked at and retired from Chrysler, my aunt who is a teacher, my uncle who is a social worker, my stepmom who is a librarian at a hearing school, a friend who has her pilot's license...among many others..who are ALL DEAF. By the way, we have never been a rich family, so don't play the money card. If you are deaf, and ONLY deaf (no other disability) then it's not "i can't." it's "I won't." Being successful takes work. I don't care if you're hearing/deaf/blind/black/white. I don't know where you got this theory that it comes easily to hearing people.

To whoever it was that said they won't support Sorenson anymore..that's fine. I'm not quite sure what that has to do with me or this thread. This thread is to stop the funding cuts for ALL vrs.

There are two sides to each coin. There were complaints about the government and how it won't help deaf people. I simply said this is the same government that is cutting checks for people who are able to work but refuse to. If that applies to you, then so be it. If it doesn't, then chill out.

Again, SORENSON is not the one who needs your help. VRS needs your help. That includes ALL vrs companies.
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If it wasn't for us deafies in this society then the interpreters would not get the crunchy interpreter jobs. Enough of your egoism to turn against Deaf people. You are lucking to sit around and have fun to communicate with all kind of people thru Video Relay Service to make money. I would love to get that job that will fit me right after all I got my disability. I cannot lift anything that is over ten lbs. Thanks!
deafies. Thank you!

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Wow. You're delusional if you think that's what interpreting is. What does lifting over 10 lbs have to do with anything? I don't lift things over ten lbs. Why not become a CDI? A job is a job. It is WORK. You're dreaming if you think you're too good to take on a job because it's not going to be fun 24/7.
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Funny, this thread about Sorenson VRS needs our help voting to FCC, now its off topic, vrsterp points out Government gives check to deaf... then why u, vrsterp, are working as VRS interpreter or for VRS, disrespectful deaf who is getting on SSI and SSDI but needs their support voting FCC :shakehead:

Um..I'm not the one who needs your support. As long as you like VRS, YOU need the support.
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well, tomorrow after get out from school then we will talk to some of deaf friends from CSUN or somewhere in LA about this shit, that getting more and more shit... government needs quit to talk about against on deaf people, enough and enough with bullshit.


Why dont you go to the vantage point and watch the war of the deaf worlds. That's where I watched the LA deafs fight GLAD. And it's safe there too.

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Ummm.. Excuse me, What is VRS, what does it stands for, and what is it for? Does anyone mind explaining this to me?
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Um..I'm not the one who needs your support. As long as you like VRS, YOU need the support.
I have posted other thread I ain't vote means I can live without VRS, I bet many of VRS users are on SSI and SSDI, why are u working for VRS company u have made fun of them and need their support voting, what a
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Ummm.. Excuse me, What is VRS, what does it stands for, and what is it for? Does anyone mind explaining this to me?
Video Relay Service, u're calling on ur Video phone similar with TTY calls
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Video Relay Service, u're calling on ur Video phone similar with TTY calls

Ohhh Duh! That's maybe the reason why I didn't know what VRS stands for because I don't have a video phone.

By the way, Thanks!
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CDI in South dakota and Florida.. I dont live there.. Thanks

What makes you think I am dreaming after all that I worked very hard that they dont have any remorse for what happened to me..
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wait a minute isnt it some of those SAME lazy deaf people that are able to work and dont also keep you in YOUR job as a VRS terp?
I wish more deaf working less sitting at home/less time using VRS then FCC may cut many interpreters no longer needed