My RIGHTS to keep my Hearing Dog.... - Page 3

Nesmuth · 02-13-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pek1

And, may I add...God help the person who assaults a service dog.

California law states you assault a guide dog, you get 6 months prison time.

Richard

LuvsInk · 02-13-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pek1

Heath,

Not sure if I asked you or someone else, but, how do you handle people who come up to you and either patronize you or start petting your dog? I am at a loss....

I will politely explain that this is my working dog and that one should never pet without first prior permission from the handler. That to distract a working dog can cause injury to the handler. I have found that most people just don't think. Also, a lot of people are interested in learning more. It might take up a lot of my time explaining all this to the individuals

but people start stopping and listening and then the word is spred. Now some people can be downright rude and thats when I get firm and remind them that to persist is a violation of the law and that I won't hesitate to ask for assistance from a police officer.

I know it is aggravating to have to constantly explain your dog and what he does to people but I cannot stress enough education education education. Just remind yourself that everytime you educate someone that is one less person to hassle someone else.

pek1 · 02-13-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

Pek1, Obivously you did not see those two patches. *sighs*

I will post those two patches that you put on your dog's orange vest....

I saw them...but people don't see the sign on Snickers cape, as if it doesn't pertain to them. I'm at a loss.

pek1 · 02-13-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvsInk

I will politely explain that this is my working dog and that one should never pet without first prior permission from the handler. That to distract a working dog can cause injury to the handler. I have found that most people just don't think. Also, a lot of people are interested in learning more. It might take up a lot of my time explaining all this to the individuals

but people start stopping and listening and then the word is spred. Now some people can be downright rude and thats when I get firm and remind them that to persist is a violation of the law and that I won't hesitate to ask for assistance from a police officer.

I know it is aggravating to have to constantly explain your dog and what he does to people but I cannot stress enough education education education. Just remind yourself that everytime you educate someone that is one less person to hassle someone else.

Forgive me for sounding like a snob...but...your time and my time is valuable...why must we tell them (without charge, might I add) and it keeps getting worse and worse? You and I are both NOT circus acts, but you've seen the stares and pointing...now what? The whistles, too. It does get to me.

Reba · 02-13-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pek1

Forgive me for sounding like a snob...but...your time and my time is valuable...why must we tell them (without charge, might I add) and it keeps getting worse and worse? You and I are both NOT circus acts, but you've seen the stares and pointing...now what? The whistles, too. It does get to me.

Understood; but if you and other service dog users don't educate them, who will?

PSA's and posters help but one-on-one public contact makes the most impact.

What about making arrangements with schools for "show and tell" sessions?

pek1 · 02-14-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

What about making arrangements with schools for "show and tell" sessions?

I see what you're saying. I've done a "s & t" before, thought it was fun. Hmm...you just gave me an idea, so will start being more open about this. Thanks, Reba!!

03-01-2006, 08:30 PM

Hi Everyone,

Guess what? I won the case today!!! I am keeping my place and hearing dog!!

for your prayers and support!!

IcedTeaRulz · 03-01-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by coloravalanche

Hi Everyone,

Guess what? I won the case today!!! I am keeping my place and hearing dog!!

for your prayers and support!!

Bravo!!! Yay!

WhisperHorse · 03-01-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coloravalanche

Hi Everyone,

Guess what? I won the case today!!! I am keeping my place and hearing dog!!

for your prayers and support!!

Thats great news that you keeping your place and hearing dog! Thats stupid of your landlord, I bet your landlord gulp in big time!

I hate that when they do that... But Im very glad that you won the case!

LuvsInk · 03-02-2006, 09:56 AM

Wonderful. Not only do you have the pleasure of winning, you finally have relief. Every victory is one step forward for service dog users.

RedheadGrrl · 03-02-2006, 12:00 PM

WOW

way to go!!

I am sure all of us are curious, how does ur landlord react to it?

GalaxyAngel · 03-02-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedheadGrrl

WOW

way to go!!

I am sure all of us are curious, how does ur landlord react to it?

So am I ... curiouis.. how's reacts answer?

I'm so very happy for you, btw gladly you won the case at the court and rights to keep your hearing dog.. living your place.. which it's good thing!

Landlord

by you.. LOL
Way to go! :appluase:

pek1 · 03-02-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by coloravalanche

Hi Everyone,

Guess what? I won the case today!!! I am keeping my place and hearing dog!!

for your prayers and support!!

Beautiful!!

See, didn't I tell you to stand up to them? Others here did, too! This is good news! Thanks for letting us know!!

LMM · 03-03-2006, 02:48 AM

Yep I'm up late again.
LMM is home alsleep. But let me tell you what happen to a good & dear friend of LMM. He lived not far from LMM. In a small town North of her, Whitehall Mi.
He had the same trouble with his landlord. He had a service dog, he was in a wheel-chair. Thats why he had his service dog. After he won his case, His landlord was so tick off ! He made LMM friend a live heck. Her friend took his landlord back to court for harassment. He won again! After 5 years of in & out of courts, the only wayto stop his Landlord was to move.
I & Lmm wish you the best. Maybe your landlord have learn a lesson. Even thou our friend try reason & education this landlord. He had no acceptment for our friend and/or his service dog!
Our local newspaper printed a long story with the landlords name . You think he be more accept after that aslo.. But oh no, He still was a real jerk!

Just beware of what may lye ahead for you. Wish you the best again,
LMM

03-03-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RedheadGrrl

WOW

way to go!!

I am sure all of us are curious, how does ur landlord react to it?

My landlord "gasped" big time! I'm pretty sure that she's probably realized that I am tough person that she can not deal with!

RedheadGrrl · 03-03-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coloravalanche

My landlord "gasped" big time! I'm pretty sure that she's probably realized that I am tough person that she can not deal with!

Then she cannot touch you again. I am sure she is so embarrassed by it. How imagine what her friends and family said that she lost!!

Well, WAY TO GO AGAIN!!

pek1 · 03-04-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by coloravalanche

My landlord "gasped" big time! I'm pretty sure that she's probably realized that I am tough person that she can not deal with!

coloravalanche,

I mean no disrespect, but I am very, very glad you got a backbone now. Feels great, huh? Keep looking up!

pek1 · 03-04-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nesmuth

Tell that to Donalda

Ammons, our lovely CISS president, she's as very Deaf American as a Gallaudet Professor! What kind of a deaf American does things that go against the laws that were made to help them?

Richard

Richard,

Forgive me for not seeing or responding to you, earlier. I would ask for her address, but noted that she teaches at Gally...heh heh...heh...thanks for letting me know.

Sweetmind · 03-07-2006, 08:23 AM

Well I do not need a hearing dog. For what?? It doesnt mean that I am so helpless for being deaf. I can see everything around me which is a good enough that I do not depend on my deaf ears. You want it then you ll have to pay all those VET bills and Dog Foods all the time which is your choice to make. I respect that.

It makes sense for Deaf blind to have that hearing dog to protect themselves since they cannot see or hear very well.

Smile!
Sweetmind

LuvsInk · 03-07-2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetmind

Well I do not need a hearing dog. For what?? It doesnt mean that I am so helpless for being deaf. I can see everything around me which is a good enough that I do not depend on my deaf ears. You want it then you ll have to pay all those VET bills and Dog Foods all the time which is your choice to make. I respect that.

It makes sense for Deaf blind to have that hearing dog to protect themselves since they cannot see or hear very well.

Smile!
Sweetmind

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am often asked why we can't get laws changed or things done. I find it to be that disabled people fight so much between themselves that they cannot forge an united front. To each their own is my motto. I don't care or comment that you don't use a service dog, why should you care or comment that we do? Some of us, like myself, went deaf later in life and have not had the time to adjust from a hearing world into the deaf world and find that a service dog helps us make that transition easier. That does not make us weak. That just means we are using every way available to us to continue to be independent. There is an old saying that has a strong meaning. You cannot judge a book by its cover. My other favorite is judge not least ye be judged.

pek1 · 03-07-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetmind

Well I do not need a hearing dog. For what?? It doesnt mean that I am so helpless for being deaf. I can see everything around me which is a good enough that I do not depend on my deaf ears. You want it then you ll have to pay all those VET bills and Dog Foods all the time which is your choice to make. I respect that.

It makes sense for Deaf blind to have that hearing dog to protect themselves since they cannot see or hear very well.

Smile!
Sweetmind

Sweetmind,

I agree with LuvsInk, it is an individual opinion and desire. But, what you may not know is that a hearing dog is not considered a pet AND every vet bill, every bag of food, treats and toys are ALL written off in taxes. Dog needs a bath? Tax write-off. Yes, receipts all over the place (if you're not organized), but it sure beats having to depend on Mace.

LMM · 03-07-2006, 09:49 PM

If it wasn't for LMM service dog she might not be here! Her service dog save her life more then once ! Her dog is train for 3 differnet things. Amelia is her best friend. You be surprize to see them together. She can sign to Amelia & Amelia understands what she is saying. Amelia learns new signs all the time.
When Amelia save LMM life she wasn't train to save just get help. But Amelia went above the call of duty! We still don't know how amelia did it, But she is a hero. Amelia don't think she is, she was just trying help LMM.
As Pek say, yes Service dog are not pets , They have more rights. Same as if a person harms a service dog they get jail/fines. They get same if they harm police dogs. Working dogs are just as human as you & I ! If person shoots working dogs, They get for muder or temp- muder!
LMM looks around her also, but Amelia is there to help barrier alot of gaps in her life! Some Deaf people have other heath issue then just be Deaf/deaf/hoh... Have you thought about that! Lmm recived Amelia for her other heath issue and they train Amelia also for hearing dog... Help LMM out more!
Hope you learn more about sercive dog by read our relpys!
LMM

Sweetmind · 03-08-2006, 07:12 AM

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

SO AM I if you mind and I dont need ur help. I m not here to point anybody but I am saying what I see in a real life. I can respect people who have a hearing dog but it s not necessary in some ways.

I ll support Deaf rights as always and will not support for the wrong reasons.

NO kidding!!!! Of course I understand what is a hearing dog? Thanks! I am not that duh like you think.

My point is that people turned against American Sign Language so whats the difference between hearing dog and ASL that we need to have in our lifetime? So your negative audist attitude destroy our true language that you think ASL is horrible to deal with. Scoffs!!! Deaf children s need that it s our Deaf rights!

Now u are asking for it. You are kissing their arse because you think oral method only is the best.. Whats the heck going on here?

Thats perfect example for what u are giving me tooooo much confusion and dont understand why are u doing this to those d/Deaf children?

Make up your mind!! sighs

Sweetmind

Liebling:-))) · 03-08-2006, 07:32 AM

I respect every opinions about hearing dog...

Let me tell you about myself bit.

I grew up with pets... It's not just dog but cat as well. I have many dogs and cats come and go in my life. They bark automaic when the door ringing... I can't see the sense why it's necassary to have hearing dog... They helped me... They barked first before hearing people... Don't you know that dogs and cats hear shape than human? Why educate dog to be hearing dog for... ?

I have 2 cats... They heard the door ring before me... I knew straight way someone come when I saw cats jump and stare the door, sometimes ran to door... They noticed that we can't hear their cries outside of door (that's time my sons are not home). What they do is jump on the window to get me attention then I open the door and let cats go in...

Okay, I respect your opinion but I think it's not necassary to have hearing dog...

03-01-2006, 08:30 PM	#67 (permalink)
coloravalanche Guest Posts: n/a	I Won!! Hi Everyone, Guess what? I won the case today!!! I am keeping my place and hearing dog!! for your prayers and support!!

03-08-2006, 07:32 AM	#84 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) me in Springfield, IL '07 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 22,429	I respect every opinions about hearing dog... Let me tell you about myself bit. I grew up with pets... It's not just dog but cat as well. I have many dogs and cats come and go in my life. They bark automaic when the door ringing... I can't see the sense why it's necassary to have hearing dog... They helped me... They barked first before hearing people... Don't you know that dogs and cats hear shape than human? Why educate dog to be hearing dog for... ? I have 2 cats... They heard the door ring before me... I knew straight way someone come when I saw cats jump and stare the door, sometimes ran to door... They noticed that we can't hear their cries outside of door (that's time my sons are not home). What they do is jump on the window to get me attention then I open the door and let cats go in... Okay, I respect your opinion but I think it's not necassary to have hearing dog... __________________ sniffing you

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03-02-2006, 09:56 AM	#70 (permalink)
LuvsInk LuvsInk Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 75	Wonderful. Not only do you have the pleasure of winning, you finally have relief. Every victory is one step forward for service dog users.

03-02-2006, 12:00 PM	#71 (permalink)
RedheadGrrl Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,729	WOW way to go!! I am sure all of us are curious, how does ur landlord react to it?

03-03-2006, 02:48 AM	#74 (permalink)
LMM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 136	Yep I'm up late again. LMM is home alsleep. But let me tell you what happen to a good & dear friend of LMM. He lived not far from LMM. In a small town North of her, Whitehall Mi. He had the same trouble with his landlord. He had a service dog, he was in a wheel-chair. Thats why he had his service dog. After he won his case, His landlord was so tick off ! He made LMM friend a live heck. Her friend took his landlord back to court for harassment. He won again! After 5 years of in & out of courts, the only wayto stop his Landlord was to move. I & Lmm wish you the best. Maybe your landlord have learn a lesson. Even thou our friend try reason & education this landlord. He had no acceptment for our friend and/or his service dog! Our local newspaper printed a long story with the landlords name . You think he be more accept after that aslo.. But oh no, He still was a real jerk! Just beware of what may lye ahead for you. Wish you the best again, LMM

03-07-2006, 08:23 AM	#79 (permalink)
Sweetmind Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 788	Well I do not need a hearing dog. For what?? It doesnt mean that I am so helpless for being deaf. I can see everything around me which is a good enough that I do not depend on my deaf ears. You want it then you ll have to pay all those VET bills and Dog Foods all the time which is your choice to make. I respect that. It makes sense for Deaf blind to have that hearing dog to protect themselves since they cannot see or hear very well. Smile! Sweetmind

03-07-2006, 09:49 PM	#82 (permalink)
LMM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 136	If it wasn't for LMM service dog she might not be here! Her service dog save her life more then once ! Her dog is train for 3 differnet things. Amelia is her best friend. You be surprize to see them together. She can sign to Amelia & Amelia understands what she is saying. Amelia learns new signs all the time. When Amelia save LMM life she wasn't train to save just get help. But Amelia went above the call of duty! We still don't know how amelia did it, But she is a hero. Amelia don't think she is, she was just trying help LMM. As Pek say, yes Service dog are not pets , They have more rights. Same as if a person harms a service dog they get jail/fines. They get same if they harm police dogs. Working dogs are just as human as you & I ! If person shoots working dogs, They get for muder or temp- muder! LMM looks around her also, but Amelia is there to help barrier alot of gaps in her life! Some Deaf people have other heath issue then just be Deaf/deaf/hoh... Have you thought about that! Lmm recived Amelia for her other heath issue and they train Amelia also for hearing dog... Help LMM out more! Hope you learn more about sercive dog by read our relpys! LMM