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Ox Red xO · 11-17-2005, 05:46 AM

a 4 yrs old with no carseat.. tsk tsk.....

MsGiglz · 11-17-2005, 09:14 AM

You Guys.. cut the crap!! and off topic..

lets go back to topic..

CApoliticsdeaf- you are trying to make hearing world look bad because they treat deaf communities or deaf people look bad.. but they are not.. only they follow the law/rules.. even though you are deaf or handicapped or hearing person didnt follow the rules of Emergency Vehicle (s) approach, no matter what you see them, slow down to make sure its in service or not, if in service like flashing lights or sirens or see their actions inside... pull over and let them drive by.

Your situtation just similar to me about 10 years ago.. I got tickets almost over 500 dollars plus court fees too.. Of course I got upset, but I waited till court date.. I talked to Judge and explained what happen.. the Judge wavied my ticket to 50 dollars and no court fee cost.. I thanked him..

After than I learned my lessons.. it doesnt mean that I learned my own mistakes no no... I learned more alert around the emergency vechiles, if you see cops , ambulance, firetruck, & etc... (espically tow truck & snow plow too)... slow down and be alert to make sure they are not in active or not..

11-17-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by C h a r l i e

a 4 yrs old with no carseat.. tsk tsk.....

Pay attenation. He does have his own carseat. I may have failed to mention it in this thread, but he does know how to unlock....

11-17-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DoofusMama

You Guys.. cut the crap!! and off topic..

lets go back to topic..

CApoliticsdeaf- you are trying to make hearing world look bad because they treat deaf communities or deaf people look bad.. but they are not.. only they follow the law/rules.. even though you are deaf or handicapped or hearing person didnt follow the rules of Emergency Vehicle (s) approach, no matter what you see them, slow down to make sure its in service or not, if in service like flashing lights or sirens or see their actions inside... pull over and let them drive by.

Your situtation just similar to me about 10 years ago.. I got tickets almost over 500 dollars plus court fees too.. Of course I got upset, but I waited till court date.. I talked to Judge and explained what happen.. the Judge wavied my ticket to 50 dollars and no court fee cost.. I thanked him..

After than I learned my lessons.. it doesnt mean that I learned my own mistakes no no... I learned more alert around the emergency vechiles, if you see cops , ambulance, firetruck, & etc... (espically tow truck & snow plow too)... slow down and be alert to make sure they are not in active or not..

Thanks for speaking out. I thought I am only one as an idoitic father but you shared your similar experience. Thanks Heavens....

EyesBlueDeaf, any comment?

MsGiglz · 11-17-2005, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mld4ds

Read Ms CADeafPolitics's post. How do I know if she may lobby with state government to make a new law? I do not want to make worse for deaf drivers in California. Moreover, she did not tell us her whole story about her ticket. The police officer has to obey the law and do not have power to make a decision for waiving. Only the judge has power to waive the ticket or not.

FYI, my four years old hearing son can unlock the seatbelt since he in the back seat wanted to inform me that he had to go to potty..... Don't you have your own children? Then hash up, EyesBlueDeaf....

I have to say that I totally disagree with you for the child or children unbuckle the seat just because want to talk you or inform you.. I have 6 kids of my own...
I always ALWAYS check on them every 2-5 min (turn my head to look back to see if they want talk to me.. or check the review mirror.. too..
ALSO, if they want talk or need to go potty.. they have to learn to be PATIENT till i pull over or stop at stop light/sign..
I told the kids they CANT unbunckle the seats NO matter what!!!! its YOUR responsible to check on them from time to time..
If child/childrent unbuckle just because they want to talk or inform you.. never know that time of an accident -- they will fly through the windsheild window... it will be YOUR fault and FINED...
if child or children are choking by candy or gum or food or drink .. PULL over-- jump out and go around.. get child out and do something.. not during or while you are driving..

baby-toddlers-kids-teenagers.. stay buckle seats no matter what.. cuz they are still under your wings till they are 18 years old.. and if they are not wearing.. Police see that and will fined you!

my teenagers are complaining about wearing seat belts.. I wont go or start the car till they wear.. if not.. kick them out the car/van and let them stay home.. miss the fun..

Kids' SAFETY first.... you last..

MsGiglz · 11-17-2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mld4ds

Thanks for speaking out. I thought I am only one as an idoitic father but you shared your similar experience. Thanks Heavens....

EyesBlueDeaf, any comment?

Your welcome.. and YOU are NOT idiotic father.... but I am not mad at you about seat belts.. I just go for Kids SAFETY first..
BUT BUT you are not only one.. alot are... :/

stay cool daddy!

EyesBlueDeaf · 11-17-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EyesBlueDeaf

I will not waste my time with you as your reputation is not good in here
http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=21

I will not waste any more time with you.

Nesmuth · 11-17-2005, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EyesBlueDeaf

I am just plain tired of hearing him using Deaf Culture / deafness as his excuses.

Then buy him a Deaf Caution card.

Richard

Ox Red xO · 11-17-2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mld4ds

Pay attenation. i did

He does have his own carseat. glad to know that now..

I may have failed to mention it in this thread, but he does know how to unlock.... wow, then he must be that smart..

that would be scary if theres no carseat for only a 4 yrs old, just concerned. Thanks

javapride · 11-17-2005, 10:44 PM

ITS NO win WIN senorio u should be charged for reckless endangerment of your own child letting him unbuckle his seatbelt to get ur attention the lamest excuse i ever heard have u ever heard of having ur child moved to where u can see him and if he can't get ur attention theres another way he can get ur attention u can teach him to flash a flashlight to keep him in his seat RMFE u have NO brains and NO regards for safety maybe U should get off the road yrself!

EyesBlueDeaf · 11-18-2005, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javapride

ITS NO win WIN senorio u should be charged for reckless endangerment of your own child letting him unbuckle his seatbelt to get ur attention the lamest excuse i ever heard have u ever heard of having ur child moved to where u can see him and if he can't get ur attention theres another way he can get ur attention u can teach him to flash a flashlight to keep him in his seat RMFE u have NO brains and NO regards for safety maybe U should get off the road yrself!

EyesBlueDeaf>

to Javapride

11-18-2005, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javapride

ITS NO win WIN senorio u should be charged for reckless endangerment of your own child letting him unbuckle his seatbelt to get ur attention the lamest excuse i ever heard have u ever heard of having ur child moved to where u can see him and if he can't get ur attention theres another way he can get ur attention u can teach him to flash a flashlight to keep him in his seat RMFE u have NO brains and NO regards for safety maybe U should get off the road yrself!

Got any kid of your own? How do you know? I don't see anything about your own kids on your own forum.

You need to watch while drooling...

EyesBlueDeaf · 11-18-2005, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mld4ds

Got any kid of your own? How do you know? I don't see anything about your own kids on your own forum.

You need to watch while drooling...
[picture snipped out to save space on server]

kewl! Java has her own forum?! Thanks for the info, mld4ds.

quiet gal · 01-09-2006, 10:54 AM

CApoliticsdeaf,

Quote:

I am a deaf driver when the emergency vehicle did not put red siren light to me and my deaf friend who was a witness.
I drove through to Clayton near Concord in California. The police officer was dirty business and did not provide me interpreter for ticket citation we couldn;t understand what police officer said, also he was lying to me, also he discussed two parademic employees to covered up to the judge."

I underline what I took was important and rephrase the question I have for you.
If I understand right ~~~ you were driving and the emergency vehicale was either passing by or coming did not have their LIGHTS on, correct? As the police had pulled you over and fine you for not pulling over because of the emergency vehicale were coming through, but did not have the LIGHTS on, correct?

As I know it was posted in November, but any result?

* For many of you were off topic here (as I skipped the rest of the comment and post this). CApoliticsdeaf was asking for advise what to do and it is a shame not many advise for this person. To be honest with you, CApoliticsdeaf, I don’t know what you can do, but you had a witness with you. So I suggest to try ask a lawyer and see what the lawyer may refer you to or may take the case. I do not know. I wish I could help*

Taylor · 01-12-2006, 04:49 PM

That is kind of how I took it. If the lights AND siren are going, you are required to pull off to the side parallel to the roadway (either side, but right hand side is preferred).

In the state of Maryland, Emergency Vehicles are required by law to use both lights and sirens when responding to an emergency. If both are not used, or if there is a malfunction, then that vehicle is no longer an emergency vehicle.
There was an incident that I was responding to when my siren failed (lights still worked). Because my siren failed, I am no longer an emergency vehicle. I notify the dispatcher that there is a malfunction and that I am now responding 'Code 1' which is no lights or sirens. If a siren fails, honking the horn or using the PA (loudspeaker) does not cut it. If the officer did not have his lights on, he is no longer an emergency vehicle and you do not have to yield right of way (at least in Maryland). If you see this happen, I'd still get out of the guys way...remember, you'd want people to get out of their way when they are coming to your house or your mother's house.

As NeilMcD pointed out, most police and fire departments are required to 'clear' and intersection before proceeding through. I went through extensive training in driving code, and this was a major issue to be covered and we spent a lot of time properly clearing intersections. They even had 'rabbit cars' that were set up to intentionally try to hit us when we were going through intersections to make sure we were clearing them properly.

I'm hoping the original poster can clarify exactly what was taking place, what the tickets were for, and exactly how the police and firefighters lied.

BrianASL · 07-16-2006, 12:34 AM

As a paramedic, we are suppose to stop at all redlights and stop signs, etc, but do we, hell no. I would say 99% of the time, rollign stop if that. I have a hard time seeing emerency lights int he daytime. I agree, there should be some sort of waring devices mandated by the industry to have avail in your vehicles as a deaf driver.

If people don't like my point of view, blow me.

11-17-2005, 09:14 AM	#32 (permalink)
MsGiglz Finally we are Mr & Mrs.. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: WVa Posts: 4,251	You Guys.. cut the crap!! and off topic.. lets go back to topic.. CApoliticsdeaf- you are trying to make hearing world look bad because they treat deaf communities or deaf people look bad.. but they are not.. only they follow the law/rules.. even though you are deaf or handicapped or hearing person didnt follow the rules of Emergency Vehicle (s) approach, no matter what you see them, slow down to make sure its in service or not, if in service like flashing lights or sirens or see their actions inside... pull over and let them drive by. Your situtation just similar to me about 10 years ago.. I got tickets almost over 500 dollars plus court fees too.. Of course I got upset, but I waited till court date.. I talked to Judge and explained what happen.. the Judge wavied my ticket to 50 dollars and no court fee cost.. I thanked him.. After than I learned my lessons.. it doesnt mean that I learned my own mistakes no no... I learned more alert around the emergency vechiles, if you see cops , ambulance, firetruck, & etc... (espically tow truck & snow plow too)... slow down and be alert to make sure they are not in active or not.. __________________

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11-17-2005, 05:46 AM	#31 (permalink)
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11-17-2005, 10:44 PM	#40 (permalink)
javapride Java's Big Island Life! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: hawaii Posts: 6,509	ITS NO win WIN senorio u should be charged for reckless endangerment of your own child letting him unbuckle his seatbelt to get ur attention the lamest excuse i ever heard have u ever heard of having ur child moved to where u can see him and if he can't get ur attention theres another way he can get ur attention u can teach him to flash a flashlight to keep him in his seat RMFE u have NO brains and NO regards for safety maybe U should get off the road yrself!

01-12-2006, 04:49 PM	#45 (permalink)
Taylor Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,586	That is kind of how I took it. If the lights AND siren are going, you are required to pull off to the side parallel to the roadway (either side, but right hand side is preferred). In the state of Maryland, Emergency Vehicles are required by law to use both lights and sirens when responding to an emergency. If both are not used, or if there is a malfunction, then that vehicle is no longer an emergency vehicle. There was an incident that I was responding to when my siren failed (lights still worked). Because my siren failed, I am no longer an emergency vehicle. I notify the dispatcher that there is a malfunction and that I am now responding 'Code 1' which is no lights or sirens. If a siren fails, honking the horn or using the PA (loudspeaker) does not cut it. If the officer did not have his lights on, he is no longer an emergency vehicle and you do not have to yield right of way (at least in Maryland). If you see this happen, I'd still get out of the guys way...remember, you'd want people to get out of their way when they are coming to your house or your mother's house. As NeilMcD pointed out, most police and fire departments are required to 'clear' and intersection before proceeding through. I went through extensive training in driving code, and this was a major issue to be covered and we spent a lot of time properly clearing intersections. They even had 'rabbit cars' that were set up to intentionally try to hit us when we were going through intersections to make sure we were clearing them properly. I'm hoping the original poster can clarify exactly what was taking place, what the tickets were for, and exactly how the police and firefighters lied.

07-16-2006, 12:34 AM	#46 (permalink)
BrianASL Hearing Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 10	As a paramedic, we are suppose to stop at all redlights and stop signs, etc, but do we, hell no. I would say 99% of the time, rollign stop if that. I have a hard time seeing emerency lights int he daytime. I agree, there should be some sort of waring devices mandated by the industry to have avail in your vehicles as a deaf driver. If people don't like my point of view, blow me.