StarKissed

Hi y'all,
I dont know if this is a right place to put this up, i just wanted to learn more about SSI, money from government or just explain it to me clearly. i have a deaf friend that works full time but she gets SSI also maybe up to 400 a month, so im just curious, is that possible you can do that if you work full time and get ssi, also? or is there a reason to do that? if anyone know anything about this, i wld absolutey love to know the details, thanks!
-jenny

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sata_rupa_tara

Hi there
Heres a few things I know about recieving SSI as a deaf person. You need to have a bi -lateral profound hearing loss. You recieve whatever the maximun cash grant is per month if you are not working or your parents are not working (if they are a minor). When you start bringing in an income they start deducting money from your monthly SSI allowance. You still continue to get medical benefits when you are working as long as it does not exceed a certain amount monthly,,I think you can make somewhere around $3100 without having med benefits stop. I also know that I should have been informed by SOMEone that my son can recieve SSI when he was diagnosed ,,, not years later.
Hope that helps a bit

Tara

diehardbiker

This is misleading! Nope, 3,100 dollars is false! Here is how it is calculated, first of 85 dollars is not counted from income, then for every 2 dollars you earn from work, then a dollar is cut from SSI check. Here is just an example

SSI check $580 dollars
wage from work 285.00 in a month
minus 85 is 200, then divided them by half,
that leaves 100, then minus 100 from 580, so that leaves you
480 dollars from SSI

No 9 months grace period for SSI.

For SSDI, totally different formula. 9 months trial is granted in a lifetime. if you work at least 20 hours a week, and earns more than 850 dollars a month, you disqualified for SSDI check. That is it.

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downing

ahh,, do not bother with ssi... ssi tried to make my hubby to pay 30,000 bucks back, eventually my hubby ended up in court and my hubby won the lawsuit over ssi.

diehardbiker

I second that, once you get in system, it is harder to get out of system!

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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LoneOak

diehardbiker65 and others who posted here about the earning while on SSI are being delusive. I wondering why you guys did not check on the facts rather than conjecturing what SSI will allow you to earn?? I do not know where, how, who, and why you got your statement from...??, I got my facts and truths from Detailed Work Incentives Information. This is where you want to find out what SSI or SSDI will allow you to earn so much per month. Look it up and you will find the answers there.

LoneOak

Nesmuth

One could try making some good money on their own while getting SSDI is through the Ticket to Work program. Its been passed and signed into law.

The only thing interesting about Ticket to Work is it exends the trial work period from 9 months to 5 years.

But the problem is it's not funded good enough to be effective at getting the disabled off SSI/SSDI so the whole thing about Ticket to Work is it's a bunch of words on paper with the President's signature.

It's become more of a politician's brownie point than a real incentive for the disabled to get to work.

Richard

diehardbiker

You think I failed to look though? Your terrible mistaken, I have SSI, and I know their SYSTEM very well for 25 years! My 25 years experience with SSI already tells me everything! It really depends on case per case on work incentives.

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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diehardbiker

Here is what Richard said is pretty much true!!!

Yes, I am trying to get out of SSI, MAN!!!! they will always look in the past and try to screw you up! They already looked in case from 20 years ago!!! They found mistake and make me owe them!
REAL REAL REAL PAIN IN THE ASSSSSS!!!!

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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FutureGame2100

I had a SSI for almost 7 months. I got $620 a month from SSI.

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rjr2006

i only use regulAr ss# but i might get ssdi since im over 18

downing

my hubby was on it for temporary during RIT because his parents are both senior citizens and refused to help him. long story but it was hard to get out from ssi mess. myself personally never had ssi...thank god.

Kalista

You are almost twenty years old. Get your ass to find a job !! Do not waste our tax payer to sit around 24 hours !

diehardbiker

Wasting taxpayer isn't the real problem. The real problem is getting out of SSI system! The longer your on SSI system, the more mess you will run into. These SSI people are good at **** up everything and you will have to chalk up their mistakes! I have seen enough! Whats more, the longer in employment gap makes job search harder! Why? trust me, any employer would look at dates of employment in resume and wondering what the hell are you doing from this year to this year? For example, employer would wonder what are you doing between say 1990 and 2005. How can you explain to them? They won't like hear that your on welfare from these years! They will think your using drugs or something and forget you.

Yes, it is true that it is EASIER to get in SSI system than to get out of them. Just think about this, easier to get in? But you fight to get in... meaning it would be twice harder than you discovered.

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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diehardbiker

You don't have enough work credit to qualify for SSDI! You must earn specific amount of credits to qualify. If you become disabled since birth then you need at least 20 work credits Meaning about 8 years worth of work to qualify.
For those who become disabled at 20 yrs old, they will need about 30 credits to qualify. I just can't remember the formula but it is there. Where do you think SS gets credit info of yours from? The infamous I R S!!! So, there is NO way around.

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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Kalista

I was talking to a friend of mine one day. This was back in the mid 80’s. We were talking about Social Security and he was telling me about his deaf friends. He said he was born deaf. He married a deaf girl and they had 5 deaf children. Their combined Social Security income was over $60,000 a year. He said they live in a nice brick house, drove a new car and had a nice boat. His friend and wife were perfectly healthy even though they were deaf and could work at any number of jobs. They travel alot every summer time. These kinds of people should not receive my tax dollars as far as I am concerned.

I also am not in favor of supporting mothers who have irresponsible. I have known of numerous instances where there was a man living in the house but the couple would not get married because they would lose their welfare. This issue may or may not have to do with Social Security money. Either way it has to do with my tax dollars. They just sleep all the day and parties.

I am sick of American Disability Deaf people collect the SSI as their healthy are perfectly and ****ing lazy !!

I am single Mom of two children. I work TWO jobs... I do not feel sorry for the Deaf people who can't find the jobs.

diehardbiker

I really don't feel sorry neither! I am not disagree with you about tax dollars. What I am trying to say is that once somebody gets in the system, it is real tough to get out. For various reasons. I had trouble getting out several times. And I am STILL in SS system!!! Even though I am working now. So do you think those who already in SS would even bother leaving them when they knew they can't get out of it even when getting job? I really don't like the way SS people handles the case. If they had done decent job with their caseload, then there won't be much tax dollars being wasted on.

My number one belief in Uncle sam's budget problem is burecract costs!!! That is something we need to work on it. Maybe you don't realize, there is plenty of people in gov't office doing the SAME thing over and over and over. The reason for this is to MAKE SURE that no one would forge any documents, and info. this is HUGE waste of money. I won't be surprised that there already at least 1,000 gov't employees checked my records. FOR WHAT?

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

diehardbiker

I wanted to add this. Cut the welfare and SSI/SSDI will not solve problem, will not save taxpayer's money. It actually increase the spending! Proof is already here. I know it sound odd or strange, but the fact is there.
Monroe county here where I live. They have had severe cuts on welfare in hope to get those lazy bums back to work. Did this work? Nope! It went the opposite side... after these cuts, Monroe county end up in red, and owe more money than it was before the deep cuts. They decided to raise property taxes, guess what? a year after the increase on taxes. Monroe county is now in deeper debt, and is now forced to borrow money.

Welfare and SSI is really a cushion to economy. Without them, economy will collapse. Plm here is, gov't need to learn to be flexible and be business like. Tell you this, when I had problem with previous employer. I screamed for help, I knocked the Dept of labor door, Knocked Dept of education (Vocation rehabilation), knocked alot of door and asked for help. Know what the answer I recieved? It is... "Because you have full time job, you don't need our help!". WTF??? So, I just let it go and couple months later, I was fired from work. Know what I did afterwards? Go back to these gov't doors and I said, "I now am without job, so now you pay all expense for me to look for job!". Now ask yourself, which way is cheaper helping me with my previous employer so I can stay there OR get fired and spend over 20,000 dollars for me to look for another job? Think about it, that is what PISSED me off, they are wasting your tax money! $20,000 dollars includes counseling, training, interpreting service provided, work trial wage, etc, etc... I think it is more than 20,000 dolalrs but I'd play safe to say at least 20k. On other hand, it MIGHT cost less than 5,000 to save my old job. eh?

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

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Safari

That's correct. What makes it different about SSA and SSDI?

diehardbiker

SSA stands for Social Security Administration. The agency that oversees whole Social Security system. SSDI is just Social Security DIsability, a free long term disability insurance! I refused to buy long term disability insurance BECAUSE SS offers that too. So, its pointless have two insurances, and can't claim both anyway.

SSDI, SS funds came directly from Social security taxes. While SSI, in other word Social suppliment Income, and that funds comes from general federal taxes. Now you see why you need to work over specific amount of time in order to qualify for SSDI or SS benefits. On other hand, for SSI, no need to have work history to qualify. Just severe disability would qualify.

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

coloravalanche

You're right about that! SSI got me into mess...when they claimed that I owe them $50,000....I had to bankrupt it!! (i had to bankrupt credit cards and others..) sooo...but funny, after the SSI foundout I filed bankrupt...they sent me a letter and said I didnt have to owe them anything! Strange, isnt it??

coloravalanche

Hey LoneOak, mind telling me how do I look it up? www.Detailed Work Incentives Information? Thanks!

coloravalanche

I agree with you, however, Ive been in SSI for 10 years..I also worked...I had no problem getting out of this system! The SSI caseworker should never force you to stay in the system...They cant do that! All I did was inform them that I was working full time job..then they just cut off the ssi checks...that's simple!

coloravalanche

I totally agree with you Sabrina! With 100%...I have been working for over 10 years...however last fall of 2004, I started having health difficulties..It's a long story but....I had to quit immeadiately...I have leuekmia cancer soo right now, I can not work bez I get tired very easy...the cancer doctor says when people have leukemia cancer, they get tired alot...so right now Im stuck and can not work...

Im on SSDI for now...I dont want to be on it for more than 2 years...it is just temporary...I rather to work...instead of staying home...I hate it but I cant help it...The doctor says I must not be in pressure at all...soo..it is a good reason for me to stay on SSDI...I recently applied last fall..and finally receive it since March.

diehardbiker

Indeedly, you CAN include SSA debts on bankruptcy filing. I have done that, and was forced SSA to pay me back 6 months because they refused to stop deduct for overpayment as required by bankruptcy court. I had to quietly accept they deducting for 6 months, why? SSA office is right below where the bankruptcy court is! I wanted SSA to overlook this and miss that important court date. Sure enough they missed, and didn't object. So, after the BK case is over I went straight downstairs and hand that document to SSA, and DEMAND my money back! It WORKED!!!

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

The*Empress

my dad would be homeless, if he hadn't lie to the Social Security Administration... that he had back problem and can't work.

So he got himself $500 a month SSI checks.

I wondered if homeless people would do this.... and especially
the poor-class people would do this

Nesmuth

A number of our clients have reported to me that they've been getting letters from the SS stating that their SSI will be cut starting January 2006. The clients already have both SSDI and SSI so when SSI goes down the SSDI goes up so the impact is really minimal to those who know how to get the paperwork done on time. People who are on SSI only will not be affected.

PASS program is a novel idea but have you see the application forms and paperwork? It is many many complicated pages long and is a good way to scare people away from filing them. Sometimes the language isnt easy for minimal-literate people and compounding it are that many disability organizations would be charging people for assistance in completing them. And I've heard horror stories of PASS maintennance problems as they require a lot of reporting and clarification.

Richard

diehardbiker

Wait 10 more years, they will send you mail asking for more information and accuse you for something! I wouldn't be too surprised!

Recently it happened to friend of mine and he was so pissed off. He thought the case were completely closed... But nope they went back to 1993 records and start to questioned him. He even thought that he got everything straighten out. But WRONG!!! There is a possible somebody got hired and review his record and find something that wasn't clear to him or her and decided to bug my friend over this.

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

diehardbiker

Sure there is more to horror stories over PASS. SOmetimes caseworker overlooked the PASS and accusing the client for false information. Had it happened in the past? Sure you can BET on it! I have seen, been though, etc. I am SSA system veteran to know what it is like!

As of right now, I am playing games against SSA, because I ALREADY reported that I went back to work, and got the document stamped by SSA office (hehehe) they overlooked it and still continue to send me check. I also asked SSA to give me more information on overpayment, how this had happened because I got three different mail with different figures in it! It is really confusing, I tried to have this clarified, but caseworker refused and said sorry, all the information is in other city office. I said ALRIGHT, I wanted to transfer all the paperwork and documents to specific branch which is closer to my home, the answer I got is "Well you can go anywhere, the information is in EVERY offices across the nation". In my mind, WTF? why she said my records is in another city, and now she is telling me it is in everywhere? Is she hiding something from me? Or that they refused to admit they made huge mistakes? So I gave up and let it go. Recently they contacted me for more information. I decided to **** them because they refused to provide me information I request, now they want more from me, WTF? I don't care if I have to go to the court. I have enough documents to proof how SCREWY the system is! Im TIRED AND FED UP with SSA people!

What I think needs to be done is SIMPLIFY the system and do what the welfare and Unemployment office is doing. Those two branches don't have as much problem as SSA does! I think I like the way Unemployment Insurance office is doing. That is why I never had problem with them. With UI, I was required to report every week on computer wheather I work last week or not, the amount if any, and number of days worked from employment. I think SSA should have done the same way, making everybody report though online in the end of month, simply enter how many hours each week worked, and how much gross pay recieved for each week. THAT IS IT, that way you can have hard records that you have reported and that overpayment won't have to happen, and that if SSA fails to follow up then it is THEIR LOSS, PERIOD. Also, SSA should have limit themselves up to 3 years from going back to old records. They got enough time to figure out because they always get records from IRS every year in June! What's their excuses? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

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J-MAC's quote: "People who try and fail are more superior than people who don't try at all"

"If people let the government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as the souls who live under tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson (1778)

Avatar picture is Cape Hatteras light house in OBX.

Cheri

I see that some of you said that you owed Social Security money? How did that happened? Did they recovered something that you were hiding from them? If it's too personal I'll understand I was just wondering why so much that is owed to Social Security?

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